these guys are playing OL this year [Bryan Fuller]

Preview: Penn State 2021 Comment Count

Brian November 12th, 2021 at 1:26 PM

Essentials

WHAT Michigan vs Penn State


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Penn State does not offer taxidermy

 

WHERE Beaver Stadium
State College, PA
WHEN Noon Eastern
THE LINE Michigan –1.5
TELEVISION ABC (McDonough/Blackledge)
TICKETS exist
WEATHER

partly cloudy, around 40
light rain possible early
10 mph wind

Overview

Penn State's season was going swimmingly until Sean Clifford took a brutal hit against Iowa. In stepped Ta'Quan Roberson, a four-star redshirt sophomore who was the only guy left over after Will Levis portaled himself to Kentucky. Roberson completed 7 of 21 attempts for 34 yards—1.6 per—and threw two picks as PSU slowly bled out an early lead.

Penn State did the thing where you wake up the guy in a coma despite it being a real bad idea, shoved Clifford back in there, and proceeded to lose more games because the only thing that kept their run game somewhat functional were legs Clifford was no longer deploying. Three weeks later PSU was unranked.

Then they were in a 14-14 game with Maryland in the fourth quarter when Jahan Dotson went 86 yards. Lesson: do not let that happen.

[Hit THE JUMP for One Guy]

Run Offense vs Penn State

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[Patrick Barron]

The Illinois conundrum: how does one give up 357 rushing yards to Illinois while being a top half Big Ten rush defense? Well, step one is to lose star DT PJ Mustipher for the season during the Iowa game. Mustipher was tracking as a mid-round NFL draft pick. His replacements are… not doing that:

The reason the Mustipher loss is so massive is because while Derrick Tangelo can hang in there as a nose tackle, Dvon Ellies and Coziah Izzard are both horrendous tackles and have emerged as a major weak spot.

The resulting defense will remind you of Michigan's efforts last year, when Aidan Hutchinson and Kwity Paye spent most of their time assuming the tackles were going to get clunked and doing their level best to make up for it. PSU has good edge players and linebackers trying to repair play-by-plan sins being offered up by Not Mustipher.

PSU bounced back from that Illinois… uh… game (remember that was the "9 OT" game that ended 20-18) to hold OSU to one of their worst performances in recent memory, so the damage here is far from fatal. But you know Michigan is going to try to pave whenever they get a hint of the ability to.

Michigan's ground game has resumed churning up opponents after a couple of rough outings against Wisconsin (understandable) and Rutgers (uh). MSU did an okay job, holding Michigan to 4.3 YPC; they've been at or near 5 YPC in their other three recent games. Complicating factors for Michigan: injuries. Blake Corum and Donovan Edwards were both out last week, and there is still a revolving door at both guard spots.

But the addition of some zone stretch, which allows Michigan to run away from unblocked defensive ends instead of sell them on nonexistent QB keep threats, and Hassan Haskins continuing to prove he's one of the best fool-hurdlers in the country have kept Michigan's ground game churning.

This might be a game for some gap-blocked stuff that relies on blowing out those DTs and landing a bunch of body blows before breaking it big.

KEY MATCHUP: MICHIGAN PULLERS vs DE/OLB SORTS. PSU is going to try to compensate for their issues at DT, which means there's going to be a lot of slanting inside, and a lot of swaps on the outside. This will be a challenging game from a block ID perspective.

Pass Offense vs Penn State

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Castro-Fields (#5) is 37 years old [Barron]

With the exception of a game against the #1 offense in the country by a mile (per SP+) this has been a dominant unit:

Opponent Att Comp Pct. Yards Yards/Att TD Int
@ 20 Wisconsin 37 22 59.5 185 5 0 2
Ball St. 45 30 66.7 226 5 0 2
16 Auburn 39 21 53.8 185 4.7 0 0
Villanova 34 20 58.8 222 6.5 2 1
Indiana 34 16 47.1 195 5.7 0 2
@ 19 Iowa 31 17 54.8 195 6.3 2 1
Illinois 21 8 38.1 38 1.8 0 1
@ 6 Ohio St. 34 22 64.7 305 9 1 0
@ Maryland 58 41 70.7 371 6.4 1 1

This is the main reason PSU's defense is 7th in SP+ and 6th in FEI. They have not given up 7 YPA to anyone not named Ohio State. Now, you can glance at the schedule and try to figure out who the second-best quarterback they've played is, sure. But everyone gets got from time to time even against rubes.

PSU doesn't, really—only Michigan and NW have given up fewer 30-yard passing plays than PSU—and they do that while playing more aggressively than either M or NW. Tariq Castro-Fields is still hanging around, somehow, being quite good; safety Jujuan Brisker is a likely first-round pick; sophomore Joey Porter Jr is getting some early NFL draft hype as a 6'2" monster with an NFL pedigree.

The above numbers are even more impressive since Penn State does not get to the QB, with the country's #99 sack rate. Should be noted that they are about 30 spots better on passing downs than standard downs, so Michigan should look to not be too predictable on standard downs. That may be just one of those things—remember that year when Frank Clark was good enough to be a second round pick despite collecting almost no stats?—because Alex thought their ends were excellent. The above numbers are generally not possible when you aren't at least hurrying the QB on the regular.

FWIW, Michigan has the #1 sack rate allowed in the country. If the ends aren't getting home against lesser competition Michigan should be relatively safe.

KEY MATCHUP:  JOSH GATTIS vs FUNNY STUFF. This is a game to break out some of the exotics, whether that's some RPO stuff you haven't shown yet or more flea-flickers. This is a game where RPS is going to be important; it's likely that PSU gets aggressive in the box to combat Michigan's ground game; how will Michigan exploit that here?

Run Defense vs Penn State

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no longer crossing the line of scrimmage [Patrick Barron]

Penn State's ground game has gone from formidable even in the face of infinite running back injuries to "also Indiana." This is almost entirely on the OL; last year Noah Cain was impressive, and he's still around. Football Outsiders maintains fancystats that are uniformly horrendous for PSU*:

  • Average line yards: 117th
  • Standard down line yards: 110th
  • Opportunity rate: 118th
  • Power success rate: 124th
  • Stuff rate: 109th

These are rough stats and not equivalent to actual grading, but when every single one of them is in triple digits and your power success rate is pretty close to dead last nationally, you have problems. Alex may have noticed this in his film review:

Not a single lineman graded out well, and they just got routinely whipped all night long. The right side of the line was bad. The left side of the line was bad. The interior was bad. The RBs had no room to run, and Clifford's head was on a pike by the end of the night.

Well then. Michigan got whooped by Kenneth Walker and MSU tempo but has otherwise crushed opponent ground games, and it is close to unfathomable that this would change against the OL responsible for the numbers above.

Making things worse for PSU is Clifford's injury, which isn't bad enough to keep him off the field but is bad enough that his legs are no longer part of the equation for the Nittany Lions. Without bothering to remove sacks, Clifford had 402 and 335 rushing yards the previous two years. This year he's stuck at 122, and since he got knocked out of the Iowa game he's rushed for… uh… –51 yards. It's possible that Clifford got healthy enough to give it a go on the ground over the course of the last week, but that seems unlikely.

Keys for Michigan, then, are to not give up something huge and stupid because you missed a run fit and PSU managed to block something up. Down-to-down this looks like it should be PSU burning downs on the altar of balance.

*[Basic primers on these stats: line yards give the OL credit for yards 0-3 and half credit for 4-8, everything else goes to the RB. Opportunity rate is how often you gain four+ yards; Power success rate is converting on third and fourth and two or less; stuff rate is the rate of zero-yard-or-worse runs.]

KEY MATCHUP: CLIFFORD vs HIS INJURY. PSU's ground game might give M some troubles if it's a full-fledged, QB-involved one. Otherwise, bupkis.

Pass Defense vs Penn State

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[GoPSUSports.com]

Well, here we go: finally Michigan faces an elite receiver in Jahan Dotson. Dotson is fresh off breaking Penn State's single-game receiving record with 242 yards against Maryland…

…taking him to 932 yards on the season, which is 12th nationally. Dotson is just 5'11" and gets used in the slot and underneath frequently, which just makes the double moves all the more deadly. NFL level scouting:

very capable as a vertical receiver and big-play creator with the football in his hands … good sideline awareness and concentration to take advantage of accurate throws in tight spaces on out-breaking patterns and when targeted on the back shoulder on vertical targets on the perimeter. Dotson made several excellent high-point targets in 2020, including posterizing Ohio State’s Shaun Wade on a one-handed touchdown reception … effective in his release package to generate false steps and quickly stack defenders in press coverage

The main drawback is his size and catching radius, which points to slot-only usage at the NFL level. In college he can do whatever against whoever.

PSU's other targets are less prolific but they have some depth. Slot Parker Washington was a low four-star as a recruit and was immediately productive as an underneath guy as a freshman; this year his production has picked up as a sophomore. KeAndre Lambert-Smith is more of an Avant type, an outside guy who's mostly a possession receiver. The tight ends chip in here and there.

Say it with me, though: PSU's main problem is pass protection. They've given up 20 sacks on the season and things have gotten worse with the new, immobile version of Clifford. Alex noted that PSU throws a ton of screens, no doubt because they're terrified of exposing Clifford to yet more devastation. The prospect of Hutchinson and Ojabo going up against this tackle duo is going to cause PSU to build a very annoying gameplan around quick game stuff. Normally that leaves you pretty limited—see the Indiana game—but PSU has a couple of guys who can make it work much better than trying screens to Peyton Hendershot.

As for Clifford, he's leveled up as a senior, dropping most of the questionable decisions that plagued him in his first two years as a starter. His accuracy remains iffy—NFL teams are not frothing at the mouth to grab him—and he lacks the cannon arm to rifle it in. But since Dotson is making "only look at Jahan Dotson" right a lot of the time, it's working.

KEY MATCHUP: JAHAN DOTSON vs IMAGES OF LAST YEAR'S MICHIGAN SECONDARY. Here you go, sink or swim. Dotson's going to get his, but if that means "11 catches for 100 yards" Michigan wins. If it means 8 for 200, uhhhhhh…

SPECIAL TEAMS

Penn State checks in 38th in the FEI rankings largely because they have one of the best punt units in the country. Jordan Stout is averaging 47 yards a kick and opponents have a total of 17 return yards. That is quite the feat, and PSU slots in third nationally. Stout is also getting touchbacks on 92% of PSU kickoffs, so don't expect any excitement there.

Everything else is mediocre to bad. This may be mere sample size. Dotson has not gotten untracked as a punt returner this year but averaged 24 yards a pop on eight opportunities last year. Kick returns have been bleah. Stout is also the kicker, and he's only been okay. He's 13/18 on mostly short stuff and slots in 70th nationally once FEI takes distance into account.

Michigan continues to rank third in special teams FEI by virtue of being good at everything.

KEY MATCHUP:  AHHHH YOU CONTINUE DOING EVERYTHING WELL

INTANGIBLES

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CHEAP THRILLS

Worry if…

  • Clifford is fully operational.
  • Penn State's rushing offense is in any way functional.
  • Dotson doin' Dotson things.

Cackle with knowing glee if…

  • It's a passing down (and you've got a handle on screens).
  • Michigan's able to blow out those DTs a la, uh, Illinois.
  • Franklin calls for a punt on third and two.

Fear/Paranoia Level: 5 (Baseline: 5; +1 for Weird Beaver Stadium Business, +1 for Ack Elite Receiver, –1 for Massive Ground Game Disparity, –1 for Frames Factor, –1 for Gimpy QB Against Michigan's Terror Ends, +1 for Nobody Puts Up Yards On This Secondary, +1 for Pick 'Em Ish Line Doesn't Make A Ton Of Sense To Me And That Makes Me Nervous, –1 for Frames Factor)

Desperate need to win level: 9 (Baseline: 5; +1 for That One Time We Went And The Dumbest Things Happened, +1 for It's All On The Table, +1 for Second Straight Week Of CoFoPoff Rankings MSU Conniption Fit, +1 for Sort Of A Rival!, +1 for This Won't Bust The Can't Win Big Games Narrative But It Might At Least Make Next Week More Annoying, –1 for Basketball Season)

Loss will cause me to… assert that Jahan Dotson is KJ Hamler's clone and that's not, you know, legal or ethical.

Win will cause me to… be completely insufferable that Frames Janklin is a slightly more comedic gameday coach than Michigan's.

The strictures and conventions of sportswriting compel me to predict: 

I kind of don't get this line since it looks like PSU is going to be entirely dependent on Dotson, has a goofy OL, and looks vulnerable to Michigan's grinding ground attack. On the other hand, it's on the road and PSU just played OSU relatively even. On the other other hand, they just played Illinois dead even.

Bah. Unless Dotson goes absolutely bonkers it's hard to see the team that can't run at all keeping pace with the one that can, especially when two fire-breathing DEs are launching themselves at the QB on many, many downs. One team is likely to be ahead of the chains most of the night, the other is not, and the one that isn't gives up a ton of sacks.

Finally, three opportunities for me to look stupid Sunday:

  • Another sack-strip for the pile of skulls.
  • Cornelius Johnson puts someone in the room of double-move pain.
  • Michigan, 30-19

Comments

The Homie J

November 12th, 2021 at 4:19 PM ^

Agreed, Ohio State is likely still the best team in the conference.  But they're just regular good right now, not super ultra deathstar good like they've been the past few seasons.  More like 2016 good in that any of the other 3 good teams in the B1G East could potentially beat them with a few good bounces.

And for once, we play them at home while we actually match up decently (In 2019, 2017, 2015, and 2013, we were way worse at either a few position groups or simply as a whole team).  If Jimmy is gonna get that monkey off his back, this year is the year to do it (besides 2016, thanks refs :-/ )

bronxblue

November 12th, 2021 at 2:27 PM ^

I view OSU like I do MSU in that they are ALWAYS up for UM but can absolutely play down against everyone else.  PSU tends to play them tight but this OSU team also "got back" by beating up on Akron, Rutgers, Maryland, and the husk of IU.  They looked meh to start the year and have looked meh since that 4-game stretch, and I think they'll have problems against Purdue this weekend as well.  They still have a really good offense so they can run most teams off the field but Stroud is not up to their usual level of play at QB and they sleepwalk in some of these games.

This is going to be a closer game than 30-19, but even on the road UM looks like the more complete team.

MGoGrendel

November 12th, 2021 at 2:01 PM ^

Looking forward to this game, but I know that over the years the weaknesses pointed out in these great write ups seam to never materialize and we get boned. Cautiously optimistic!  

JMo

November 13th, 2021 at 1:33 AM ^

My take is that McDonough is one of those old hands who's been doing it for almost three decades now, he's seen everything, and he just doesn't want to be bored. I dont think he cares who wins, he just doesn't want to do "another game."  So, he "roots" for an exciting game, he gets excited for the underdog. He roots for storylines and something that'll keep him from calling "just another game."

Personally, I could care less if Sean McDonough is bored. I don't want to hear him get excited if Rutgers finally does something interesting. Call the play thats in front of you. Tell me how much yardage. Give me an injury update. If you're bored or don't like your job anymore, quit Sean.

MGoBlue96

November 12th, 2021 at 2:04 PM ^

I hate to say but you forgot to list the officiating as a possible x factor. Something that can mitigate UM's obvious advantage against PSU's oline is if they are allowed to egregiously hold all game. Not to mention whatever other weird shit Big Ten officials might decide to do. Last time in Happy Valley they wiped away a probable UM td drive with the most ludicrous offensive PI you will ever see on Nico Collins on a catch at PSU's 10 just as an example.

MGoBlue96

November 12th, 2021 at 2:49 PM ^

Not coincidentally I remember the crew for that game being the Snodgrass one, the ones who did the MSU game this year. But yes that game was extremely slanted officiating wise for PSU overall. Hoping a non night game can lower the officiating bias and we get at least not game altering level bad.

WFNY_DP

November 12th, 2021 at 2:56 PM ^

Or, like on the "Strip sack to add to the pile of skulls" the replay guy decides, "Well, his *shin* might be down even though we can't see when the ball actually comes loose so we'd better take this off the board to be on the safe side. We wouldn't want a call like this to alter the outcome of the game."

ak47

November 12th, 2021 at 2:27 PM ^

Man I wish I had your optimism, we just lost to a worse team with more holes two weeks ago because we couldn't finish drives with touchdowns and despite getting more point scoring drives lost the game. Now we are going up against a much better defense that will give up less overall scoring opportunities while still presenting extremely difficult challenges to score touchdowns and an offense that has performed better against functional defenses than MSU's. 

Think kicking field goals and playing to not lose hurts us again and we lose 27-20

MGoBlue96

November 12th, 2021 at 2:35 PM ^

Well maybe the officials won't swing the game 10+ points tommorow like they did a couple of weeks ago. Not expecting great officiating, but it would be nice if they could just be kinda not game altering level bad. Also I don't think the matchup is quite the same even if I think MSU isn't any better overall than PSU, MSU had a far better running game, a top notch DT to slow down UM's interior running game, etc. I mean I know everyone is concerned about Dotson but Nailor and Reed are just as dangerous of a combo and UM did not give up big plays to them even before the Nailor injury. PSU is going to have the same problem MSU did, your ability to get the ball downfield is going to be limited when your pass protection is getting eaten alive.

ak47

November 12th, 2021 at 3:21 PM ^

Nailor was injured for at least a half. But also you are talking about an MSU run game that Nebraska and Indiana shut down. Kenneth Walker is good but the defense also got exposed a little. Just like they did in the second half against Nebraska. When they've run into actual physical talent and speed there have been some cracks and PSU has that. And while MSU had a good DT, literally every other level of the PSU defense is better. The MSU pass defense is atrocious and was a massive weakness. PSU doesn't have that, there's no easy outlet if the interior run game isn't working.

I absolutely think Michigan can win this game, and I expect a close game. I just don't think the Michigan defense, PSU offense is going to be the dominant Michigan performance this write up presumes. And I think the offensive performance is going to be closer to Wisconsin than against MSU without getting the fun backup wisconsin QB turnovers to help. I think Michigan will move the ball, but PSU was in that game against OSU because they stood tall made OSU kick field goals, and think the same thing is going to happen to Michigan.

jballen4eva

November 12th, 2021 at 3:07 PM ^

Sadly, I agree with you about the final result, but I think you might be overstating the superiority of PSU's defense, at least in the red zone (since we're discussing TDs vs. field goals).  

43% of scoring drives against MSU from the red zone have led to touchdowns.  PSU's percentage is 41%, which is a little better, but not much.  I mean, that's not very comforting, but I don't expect Michigan to be any worse in the red zone against PSU.    

My bigger concern is PSU's passing game, and a Michigan pass defense that has done well but is not that deep.  Is see this being a higher scoring game, where Washington and/or Lambert-Smith have great games and PSU wins 31- 27.     

ERdocLSA2004

November 12th, 2021 at 2:30 PM ^

PSU 34-27.  I fear the big play over the top.  Our corners are decent but Dotson could run loose.  Weather could be ugly, game in Happy Valley, etc.  We stall in the RZ and settle for too many field goals.  think the home team wins this game.

MGoBlue96

November 12th, 2021 at 2:40 PM ^

Nailor and Reed are every bit as dangerous as a combo as Dotson is and even before the Nailor injury UM was doing a perfectly fine job taking the big play away from them. The reality is just like MSU, UM's pass rush is going to present a major problem for PSU's ability to get the ball downfield. Hutchinson and Ojabo are going to eat them alive though I suspect they will be having to fight through obvious holds all day to do it.

HTV

November 12th, 2021 at 4:44 PM ^

Looks to be you're an ER doc, I seriously thank you for that as I'm sure you're being overworked like everyone else in the medical field and I appreciate you.  I hope you're staying safe and well.

I had a long reply typed out, but don't want to be a jerk, even when trying to be funny.  However, I am wondering how a team gets to 27 with kicking too many field goals.  Having 2 fgs out of 5 scoring opportunities too many? It is if they give up 34, obviously, but would that be the reason for the loss then, a 60% td rate in the redzone?

Maybe still a jerk by even pointing it out.  I honestly just found it funny on a Friday afternoon.  Maybe wouldn't have yesterday, who knows.  Just having some fun and if you don't take it that way, my apologies.

 

  

WesternWolverine96

November 12th, 2021 at 2:36 PM ^

Not expecting this to be an instant classic... it will be close throughout and yet it still won't be that exciting to watch.

But any version of a win is huge for us right now.

Michigan 26 to 20..... setting up an instant classic in 2 weeks