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Neck Sharpies: Stretch is Expensive Comment Count

Seth September 12th, 2023 at 12:00 PM

After two nonconference games against teams not expected to finish in the top 25 in run defense, Michigan's running game hasn't produced the way we expected. You'd figure with two of the best three running backs in the country, three starters back from the two-time Joe (Sherrone) Moore-winning offensive line supplemented by two of the position's top transfers, and the hottest quarterback in the country, the Michigan run game should be steamrolling opponents. They're not.

There are several reasons for this, including…

  1. ECU committed their entire defense to stopping the run, and Michigan was content to only play-action them to death as much as they needed to build a 30-point lead through the air.
  2. UNLV committed their linebackers to stopping the run, and Michigan was content to only use intermediate passing on early downs as much as they needed to build a 28-point lead.
  3. OTs Myles Hinton and Karsen Barnhart aren't grading out well, though they remain ahead of projected starters Trente Jones and LaDarius Henderson.
  4. The RBs, especially Edwards, haven't been as patient in letting things develop as they were last year.

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  5. The WR blocking this year has been a major step down from what they got with Ronnie Bell (I'm going to keep saying I told you so!)
  6. Except in a few circumstances Michigan has been loathe to use JJ McCarthy's legs to even the numbers, and both opponents have been taking advantage of this by overplaying the edge on (fake) zone reads.image

But the one I want to address today is that Michigan has been using Stretch (aka Outside Zone) as more than a changeup this year, and they're not yet all that good at it, nor likely to become masters.

WHAT IS OUTSIDE ZONE?

The run play where you see all the blockers sliding sideways while the running back picks a gap. My "What Is" series is aging out but here's my 9-year-old explanation:

For the OL it starts with the same rules as inside zone: if you're "covered" by a defensive lineman you block that guy, if you're not you release to block a linebacker, and if you're lined up playside of a DL you combo then release. Then you block depending on what those defenders are trying to do: if they shoot inside you seal, if they slant away you shove and make them over-slant—they'll really have no choice but to try to ride you and stay playside. Then the RB picks his hole based on whichever block went the best.

[After THE JUMP: Michigan isn't made this way.]

WHY IS MICHIGAN RUNNING STRETCH IF THEY'RE BUILT FOR POWER?

The smaller, programmic reason is the NFL these days expects linemen to be able to run just about everything. To make Michigan's linemen more attractive to pro teams, and therefore make Michigan more attractive to the kinds of athletes who translate into awesome linemen, it behooves the program to demonstrate they can dominate with a variety of concepts.

However the major reason I think they're adding more Stretch to the mix is it's strong against the best way to defend Michigan's favorite run play: Duo.

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Duo is a great base play for Michigan. They have heavy OL who can consistently move DTs with double-teams. They have very good RBs who can consistently put an LB in the wrong gap and get to a different one before the LB can react. This play was a Bo staple, a Harbaugh staple at Stanford, and has come back into favor in the last eight or so years as offenses found it effective against teams that use smaller DTs.

If you don't have those planet-sized DTs, you can still defeat Duo with aggression. That means firing your front seven defenders upfield before the doubles have a chance to blow the DTs back or the RB has a chance to put the LB in the wrong gap.

Outside Zone then is a good way to punish defenders who are overplaying Duo. We got a good example of that versus UNLV:

The Rebels here gave Michigan a light 3-3-5 look with a plan to go all ECU at the first sign of run action. Everybody fly upfield at a gap. I want you to particularly notice that the DTs are lined up to the left (from the offense's perspective) of center Drake Nugent and right tackle Karsen Barnhart.

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Michigan snaps it and both of these DTs are moving upfield, sure, but they're also now on the back side of the play.

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Nugent and Barnhart use that leverage to help their respective guards also get around their DTs. Suddenly this gap-sound defense is getting overwhelmed. The linebackers are flowing to replace, but because the DTs got scooped while trying to get upfield they're getting outflanked and Corum has a blue lane off Barnhart's butt.

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If you recall back to the Indiana game that was way too close in 2015, that happened for this same reason. Mo Hurst and Will Henry were young DTs firing upfield to upset interior runs, and Indiana was punishing that behavior by running stretch around them.

I bet you this is why Michigan is running a lot of Stretch this year: If they can get good at it, they can punish the way defenses want to play Duo, the play that works because Michigan's OL are big hosses who can blow DTs downfield with double-teams and Michigan's RBs are lightning quick dudes who can force the unblocked linebacker behind that double to pick one side of it before the RB hops to the other gap.

However, it's got costs.

THE TECHNIQUE IS EXPENSIVE

By expensive I mean that Stretch takes a lot of program resources to get good at it, most especially the practice time to rep it enough that your linemen can anticipate all the little subtle ways defenses are going to react to it. Compared to other base running concepts, Stretch is highly reactive to the defense, which means you have to have everyone super-well drilled at all of the defense's reactions and the correct counterreactions to be consistently successful.

We saw the Wolverines bring this out last week against ECU for a decent gain, but only because Corum made a play on the safety. This play is a pretty good demonstration of what Michigan's stretch aptitudes. Right off the snap their center Nugent got one of those all-important reach blocks, getting himself playside of the nose tackle (#40) who lined up playside of him.

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There's an awful lot going on here, but that's the point of Stretch. The linemen are letting the defenders move where they will and are supposed to just help them along the way while the RB looks for the best lane. The best way to get a good lane in stretch is to find a gap between a defender who is letting himself get pinned inside and one who is going to get too far outside. From the setup above it looks like things are developing nicely for an attack to either side of Keegan, since the NT got reached and sealed upfield by Nugent and DE #3 is engaged with the B gap very far away.

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This lane falls apart however because Zinter couldn't seal off the backside linebacker and Nugent started to lose that NT.

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So Corum hops out to the lane outside of Barnhart, who got around the DE lined up inside of him. The only problem out there is ECU's safety was firing down on run action. But Barnhart and Loveland opened up enough space for Corum to get a shot at a Corum'ing.

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At least until the backside LB that Zinter whiffed on catches up.

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So despite the defense delivering an unblocked safety to the gap at 1 yard, this play ended up working because Corum shook him for a little. It *SHOULD* have worked however because the DTs shot upfield and let themselves get reached by Nugent and Barnhart. The gap that should have created didn't come off because Zinter whiffed on a backside LB he had position on. It wasn't an athletic thing—Zinter just got too far downfield and the WLB had room to shoot behind his back and still be relevant.

Stretch also requires adjustments to things that defenses commonly practice to defeat stretch. We saw a good example the first time Michigan ran this against UNLV on Saturday. On this one UNLV lined up with two DTs over the same OL.

Why? Jon Duerr explained what UNLV did here to blow it up.

By doubling Keegan the defense was able to get past the blocking, make Barnhart useless, and cut off access to all of the other lanes. If you're wondering if Stretch has a response to this, well yes of course it does. As soon as he releases into air, Barnhart needs to check inside and Zinter needs to wall off to create a cutback lane behind the double so Nugent can ride the DT away from that lane. They also need to prevent the backside end from crashing down on this (zone reads and bootlegs punish that kind of behavior).

THE BODIES ARE EXPENSIVE

By this I mean you need the personnel who can execute the blocks that make Stretch effective. Size helps of course, but more than size you need linemen who are super agile as they try to out-dance defensive linemen trying to avoid getting outflanked. Stretch thrives on blockers getting across the defenders who are supposed to be attacking their opposites' playside gaps. Reach blocks (1-on-1) and scoops (when two OL combo each other around a defender) are what create most of the big gashing gaps in Stretch. The lesser way Stretch gets yardage however is when the OL manage to spread out the defenders so much that the RB has room to put a move on an unblocked defender in a wide gap, like Corum did to the safety above.

Execution has been an issue with Michigan's Stretch, and is likely to remain so because they have big hulking OL who aren't made for it. This one was blocked correctly except Myles Hinton, a verifiable hoss, couldn't get across the backside DE.

That's a tough ask for a guy his size. Teams that run a lot of Stretch usually recruit light-footed tackles who can make that block with more consistency.

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The other thing you see about the above is Barnhart is dealing with a guy in the backfield who forced a cutback. Again, a tackle with super light feet might be able to pin or ride that guy inside, but Barnhart isn't really that guy. He gives up too much ground trying to get around, and that guy combines with the guy Hinton missed to tackle.

Here's another Stretch from this game that got defeated at the blocking. This time it was Hinton getting shed on his kickout block and Keegan not completing the scoop with Nugent on the NT.

We've seen Keegan make oodles of excellent blocks by identifying the right defender in Michigan's power schemes and by overwhelming DTs he's doubling. This block wasn't about identifying the right guy to block; it was about getting around the guy, which is just a matter of foot agility, which isn't Keegan's strong suit.

Michigan's linemen aren't complete stiffs however. Barnhart and Hinton both got effective blocks on their defenders to create a decent gain when UNLV presented them a wide split to attack, with Barnhart getting out on a hybrid linebacker and Hinton getting across a WLB.

I think Michigan hoped to burn UNLV a few times with this so they could go back to running Duo or forcing defenses to expend their safeties defending it. Stretch isn't very forgiving on teams that don't want to specialize in it however. How and whether it develops as a complement to their Duo game will have to unfold over the next few weeks. If they've already repped it enough to be running it enough to draw responses to it I doubt they're going to put it on the shelf.

Comments

TheDirtyD

September 12th, 2023 at 12:19 PM ^

A lot of the duo plays the backside is wide open for the taking K. Walker III style. You could even run a speed option to that side and have JJ pitch it early. The formation could be with both Edwards and Corum in the backfield with the WR spilt wide as they can so the slot defender can’t blitz effectively. Their formation design right now isn’t helping them as it lets teams totally crowd the line of scrimmage and if they do Michigan needs to take what the defense gives them. The passing game will be there. Let teams pick which way they want to lose. JJ is operating at a very high level. The game has slowed way down for him. It will save the wear and tear and make defenses be balanced. TCU showed the way to mess with Michigan create a mess at the LOS and hope it turns out well. It’s an RPS score but it generally works out for the defense. 

S.G. Rice

September 12th, 2023 at 12:20 PM ^

I think dropoff in TE blocking may need to be added to the list of reasons why.

I'll be interested to read the UFR as I thought the OL's run blocking on rewatch was quite a bit better than the ECU game.

Blue Middle

September 12th, 2023 at 12:23 PM ^

Candidly, I'm in agreement with Brian on this one.  I don't think we should be spending resources on stretch.

There are gap schemes that can provide counters to Duo that we seem better-prepared to run, and even inside zone-based concepts that can help.

I'd rather see us master Duo, Power, Arc, and pulling plays than try to master stretch, which is a great base play but really needs to be a base play in order for it to work.

Blue Balls Afire

September 12th, 2023 at 3:18 PM ^

I see what you’re saying and you make good points. I’m of the mind though that we stick with trying to run stretch zone while also running more inside zone as you mentioned. At this point we know what the issue is (3-3-5 and other assorted attacking defenses) and we know what the solution is (zone schemes to the outside of which stretch zone is one). The problem as explained here is that we’re not good at stretch zone yet as well as the opportunity cost Seth mentions in order to get good. Nevertheless, we still have to work through it, don’t we?  Rep it as much as we can until we’re adept enough in games to make defenses pay, then unleash our power, duo, gap, run machine?  I dunno. Good thing we have JJ going to 11 while we figure it out. 

Blau

September 12th, 2023 at 12:31 PM ^

So... talking the 3-3-5. Since TCU last year, it seems like 3-3-5 defenses seem to do pretty well against the rushing offense by basically plugging or shooting as many inside gaps as possible and shedding blockers as needed. I think of the 3-3-5 as a high risk/high reward in that there is a high probability for no gain or TFL or a big play past the 2nd level of the defense.

My question is will more defenses try to implement similar strategies and if so, how hard is that to do if you don't practice those formations/calls or have the right players to run it.

RAH

September 12th, 2023 at 1:54 PM ^

Canceling the planned Michigan Method approach for evaluating the tackles was very puzzling to me and, apparently, everyone else. There seemed to be no explanation for it.  But this occurred to me.

What we (and probably the coaches) thought going into the season:

TCU used an ultra-aggressive run defense to stymy the running game and undoubtedly all the teams we play this year will have studied what they did and will be using it to develop their own similar strategy. But our staff has proven running game experts and they’ve had the whole off season to figure out how to handle it. And we have most of the two-time Joe Moore award winning OL returning, and the best running back tandem in the country, and great depth at OL. This won’t be a continuing problem.

We’ve got 4 guys at OT who are really good and there’s not much separating them. So, we’ll use the Michigan Method. We might also try working Crippen in at center a bit.  The two who we think are the best OTs will get the first start and the 2 close competitors will get the second. Since there’s not a big drop off between the 4 OTs, once we decide on the starting 2 we’ll also keep the runners-up happy with plenty of playing time that will keep the starters fresh, decrease the chances of injury and prepare for any injuries that do occur.

What the coaches thought after the ECU game:

Yikes! ECU did study the TCU plan and we still don’t have an effective running game – against ECU!! The OL (and the running backs!!) are not making the reads and adjustments required and the timing seems off.

We need to work with a set group who will consistently work together until they can make the same (right) reads, anticipate each other’s response to various situations, understand the idiosyncrasies of the other guys’ thinking and moving, etc.   

Once we get one team functioning effectively, we can think about how to work other people in.

 

canzior

September 12th, 2023 at 2:36 PM ^

Not just TCU, but OSU as well runs basically a 3-3-5. The offense as it stands does well enough, especially now that JJ is an alien in the pass game. 

And we saw what happens when the starters are in during the 4th quarter after JJ has thrown them out of their attacking defense. 

 

DelhiWolverine

September 12th, 2023 at 12:32 PM ^

Seth, great article. The conversation bubbles and color coding are really helpful tools to help me understand these concepts. I think this feature is my favorite one on the site, and that's saying something!

Quick question for you on this. How much stretch did Michigan run last year? Is this a new thing that they are running more frequently this year, or is it something they did last year but that the newer guys are still struggling with?

VintageRandy

September 12th, 2023 at 12:33 PM ^

I can’t imagine Henderson and Jones would be downgrades to Barnhart and Hinton in this regard, and in fact both might be more nimble with higher upside for these run concepts. My only reasonable guess now is that they think JJ is the offense’s identity this year and Hinton and Barnhart will do the best at protecting him?

T. Biakabazooka

September 13th, 2023 at 4:39 PM ^

I was thinking this same thing -- trying to read the coaches' minds, are they thinking that Hinton and Barnhart will grasp these concepts with more reps? Or is it more, let's give them as much game experience as possible with cupcake games, before putting Henderson and Jones in for BGSU and easier B10 opponents? If the latter, I worry that Henderson and Jones will need the same game reps to work out their issues with outside zone. But I'm hoping it's just the coaches fiddling around with new concepts, before largely setting them aside for the Big 10 season, and sprinkling it in later on in harder games

This reminds me of a few years back, when they introduced zone blocking only to ditch at the end of the season. Except back then we didn't have the same quality RBs and a fire passing game to lean on. 

RockinLoud

September 12th, 2023 at 12:59 PM ^

The number of blown assignments is something we're definitely not used to. I guess you can't always just re-load in terms of cohesion when you lose a couple starters. The number of mistakes from Hinton is quite staggering and very much makes me question what is going on, especially when Jones was quite good in the run game last season. I really hope this isn't some internal bureaucracy junk; just play the best players, that means those who do best in games, not just practice (see Joe Bolden vs Ben Gedeon).

leftrare

September 12th, 2023 at 1:02 PM ^

Awesome work, Seth.

Makes me wonder how many more games they rep OZ before they spring Duo on an unsuspecting opponent.  Also wonder if Henderson and Jones are being saved for that occasion.

mgoja

September 12th, 2023 at 1:43 PM ^

Based on the article and the comments so far (6 right now) it seems to me that the open questions are more about the coaches than the team's offensive linemen. 

  • How many more weeks are there for the team to work on outside zone -- in practice and in games? (Edit - I see that leftrare beat me to the punch as I was typing this question)
  • What other options can they consider for punishing defenses for locking in on Duo (TheDirtyD mentions speed option)?
  • While different blocking schemes demand different skills of the offensive linemen, to what extent do they demand different skills/experience of the coaches who teach them?  Are Michigan's coaches better equipped to teach one scheme vs. another (at least among those frequently mentioned on this blog)?

Most, and perhaps nearly all, of us trust the coaches when it comes to oline and blocking.  It would be nice to get some more insight on how they may be thinking about the road ahead.

Seth

September 12th, 2023 at 1:56 PM ^

Those are big questions. There are a lot of things that would work but they all have their expenses. Michigan runs crack plays, but are you going to take Roman Wilson and Cornelius Johnson off the field because they can't block it? You can run traps--this is what they did in 2017 and I keep waiting for them to bring it back, but I bet they want to get Zinter doing more than popping DTs in the backfield. Speed options only work if you're willing to get your QB hit a lot, and those are expensive as well. If I had to choose I'd have them run more draws and make JJ the focal point of the offense, but again, is that something they're going to do?

S.G. Rice

September 12th, 2023 at 2:03 PM ^

... and if they're going to do any of that, is there any reason to think they'd bring it out of the garage before conference play at least?

There are plusses and minuses to repping any scheme or play in games, but we have a coach with a multi-year track record of only showing so much against opponents he knows Michigan can beat with one hand tied behind their back.

mgoja

September 12th, 2023 at 3:51 PM ^

And this hints at what seems to me to be the biggest question of all -- can they get good enough at new/newly emphasized blocking schemes to be able to make the difference in the games where they are really needed -- against the strongest, fastest, most athletic defenders they are likely to face in Penn State, Ohio State, Georgia, etc.?

NeverPunt

September 12th, 2023 at 2:33 PM ^

So is it entirely implausible given the expense here that Michigan is repping this not to perfection but to give defenses enough tape on it here in the non-con part of the schedule to keep them honest? I'm assuming we'll be seeing a more fully weaponized version of the offense with our bread and butter run game anyways, and by repping OZ as well enough to use it against the weaker opponents on the schedule it will mean defenses later in the year will need to prepare for outsize zone as well? 

I have come to generally trust the coaching staff enough to believe they would be well aware of the difficulty to master OZ and that we would only be going about it if they (a) though we could actually master it or (b) it if was mostly tactical and for show?

BlueGoM

September 12th, 2023 at 2:45 PM ^

"OTs Myles Hinton and Karsen Barnhart aren't grading out well"

I noticed Hinton, I'll have to watch Barnhart later.   Hope they improve over the next few weeks...

MaynardST

September 12th, 2023 at 2:51 PM ^

I have questions. Who was the great blocking wide receiver in 2021 when Bell was hurt? If there are four "starting" tackles, why isn't the competition making everyone better this year? Is there a team this year that is a better candidate for the Joe Moore award?

VintageRandy

September 12th, 2023 at 3:36 PM ^

1. Mikey Sainristil was a great blocking WR when he was still on offense. Daylen Balwdin, AJ Henning, and Andrel Anthony were all pretty good blockers as well. CJ and Roman will likely be fine as they clean things up.

2. It could be making them better but who knows. Until we see like multiple drives of snaps for Henderson and Jones we have nothing to go off of. 
 

3. Georgia is the obvious candidate but there will be others that emerge as the season goes on. We won’t get it again anyways because optics, but there are plenty of other metrics that are helpful in grading the quality of a line.

 

Seth

September 12th, 2023 at 4:48 PM ^

Who was the great blocking wide receiver in 2021 when Bell was hurt?

Opponent + - Tot Notes
WMU 7   +7 Michigan's best tight end.
Washington   1.5 -1.5 UW was focused on taking away M's edge game.
NIU 3 0 +3 On three downfield chances.
Rutgers 2   +2 All on his catch and run.
Wisconsin 1 3 -2 Ditto. Might have deserved more for blocks happening offscreen.
Nebraska 1.5 4 -2.5 Don't get why he was trying to combo LBs in space.
Northwestern 3 4 -1 Solid mountain goat blocking and one fumble (-3).
MSU 1 2 -1 In fairness, MSU safeties are a handful, especially Henderson.
Indiana 4 1 +3 Nifty slot, would be nice if people ran behind his good blocks.
Penn State 2.5 1 +1.5 A couple of his patented blocks, one patent rejected.
Maryland 3 0 +3 Not sure, gonna have to watch that catch 12 more times.
Ohio State 4.5 0 +4.5 Angry mountain goat blocking returned.
Iowa 6.5 1 +5.5 Welcome back mountain goat blocking.
Georgia 1.5 0 +1.5 Got a lot of run, mostly as a decoy.

Mikey was awesome.

OkinawaGoBlue

September 12th, 2023 at 5:39 PM ^

Is it just me, or does anyone else feel like Corum and Edwards are lacking the burst they had last year.  Of the bigger runs Corum has had I feel like he should have been able to take a couple to the house.

VintageRandy

September 12th, 2023 at 5:44 PM ^

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bronxblue

September 12th, 2023 at 6:38 PM ^

Good stuff.

It does feel like they're trying to make a bunch of pieces work that maybe contradict themselves - witness outside zone while also trying to make Myles Hinton at tackle work - but I assume this is in part because they aren't really worried about these opponents and so they're repping some new stuff to see how good they're at it.  I agree it seems inefficient and maybe also the result of a coach who's suspended, but I have to assume they'll go back to Power and inside zone when it matters.

EGD

September 13th, 2023 at 1:32 PM ^

This just feels to me like it's going to work. 

M doesn't need to master OZ, the only need to get good enough at it to serve as a constraint for teams that continue to overplay Duo. That seems realistic to achieve by, say, Penn State week. 

Then you factor in that M is running straight-up OZ without optioning anybody off. If we presume that the staff is prepared to let JJ read the backside end and pull the ball as much as necessary against the more difficult opponents, that suddenly turns a mediocre OZ play into a deadly zone read. At minimum, you no longer need the backside tackle to block a DE and can spend that blocker somewhere else. JJ has already proven adept at making those reads so you know he can execute it. 

I get that some of the outside-hitting gap schemes might have been easier to install but this feels like it promises a higher payoff, especially when you don't have killer TE blocking--and M has the schedule to undertake a longer term project.

Great job on this Neck Sharpies, Seth.