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Minnesota Highlights

By Ace — November 3rd, 2012 at 5:31 PM — 86 comments
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HD highlights of today's game, courtesy of parkinggod:

I think he got them up so fast because he skipped all the first-quarter offensive fireworks.

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November 3rd, 2012 at 5:42 PM | Didn't see this during the (Score:3 Normal)
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Didn't see this during the game, but check out the Toussaint pancake at 7:08 on Gallon's jet sweep

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November 3rd, 2012 at 6:37 PM | Wow (Score:1)
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Nice eye! Great block, which has probably been his worst attribute as a back up to this point, so that's nice to see.

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November 3rd, 2012 at 6:40 PM | To be clear I meant, as a (Score:1)
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To be clear I meant, as a running back, up to this point. Not, as a back up.

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November 3rd, 2012 at 5:47 PM | I've always been very (Score:2)
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I've always been very anti-Gardner as a QB, but I've got to admit, he looked pretty good today.  

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler

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November 3rd, 2012 at 6:30 PM | agree (Score:1)
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Yeah, it seems like every other time we've seen him he's been serviceable but underwhelming (though athletic, sure). Today was a nice little change of pace.

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November 3rd, 2012 at 6:38 PM | Gardner (Score:3 Normal)
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Yes, he looked fairly good today.

I am soooo happy Michigan won this game.

But ... it was against a Minnesota defense.  Not horrible, but not elite.  He threw some passes that would have -- I suspect -- been picked off by better defenses.

That said, I am fairly encouraged by the arm strength, leg mobility, and field presence.  I think with more actual game-time experience and coaching, he could be what Michigan has lacked these last several years -- a true dual threat, both running and passing.

Shane Morris has every bit the cannon of an arm Gardner has.  Perhaps not quite the legs.  But with an improved O-Line the combination of Gardner next year and Morris thereafter ... whoo boy, watch out.

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November 3rd, 2012 at 5:54 PM | How much more can be said (Score:4 Normal)
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How much more can be said about Jake Ryan? He seemed to be in on every other highlight. I honestly cannot remember Michigan having a linebacker who seemed to make plays with this level of consistency, including Crable.

Bo Schembechler BA, Bear Bryant Law.

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November 3rd, 2012 at 7:49 PM | I luv Ryan. He's such a (Score:1)
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I luv Ryan. He's such a playmaker. It's crazy how many times he makes a play by tackling a guys lower legs/feet. One of the best OLB I've seen at Michigan in 30 years

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November 3rd, 2012 at 6:10 PM | Three things... 1. Jake Ryan (Score:1 Overrated)
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Three things...

1. Jake Ryan on that end-around. He's been called unorthodox, but a playmaker. If that wasn't textbook, that book needs to be rewritten.

2. Gardner threw pretty well. He may have got lucky a few times between Minnesota ineptness and outstanding effort from the wide receivers. Deep touch pass to Gallon on the out and up was pretty. 

3. This was one game, so I don't want to read too much into this performance by Gardner. But if there seemed to be one constant throughout the game, it was his pocket presence. Not so much decision making (though that was good today) but just feeling the players around him and knowing when to get out. Very nice. 

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November 3rd, 2012 at 6:28 PM | I wasn't able to watch the (Score:1)
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I wasn't able to watch the game, but I counted about 4 Jake Ryan TFL's in this video.  We may have a future 1st-rounder on our hands, gentlemen (Minnesota caveat in mind).  The play where he baited the running back to bounce outside and then shoved the QB to snatch the RB for a loss was pretty damn impressive.

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November 3rd, 2012 at 7:00 PM | That deep ball to Gallon (Score:5 Normal)
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That deep ball to Gallon might have been the most accurate deep ball I've seen a UM QB throw since Denard's TD to Tay Odoms in the Nebraska game last year. 

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November 4th, 2012 at 9:11 AM | My favorite part about (Score:2 Informative)
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My favorite part about Gardner's game today was how fast he tucked it and ran when he didnt see anyone open. I know he didnt do that every time, and it led to a couple sacks, but there were a few times where he tucked it picked up positibe yardage. Thats what Denard needs to do.

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November 3rd, 2012 at 6:32 PM | Also, seems as if Heitzman (Score:1)
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Also, seems as if Heitzman got a decent amount of PT today.  Wonder how he does in the UFR.  Looks like he was getting held at 8:46

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November 3rd, 2012 at 6:36 PM | Mentally, (Score:0 Normal)
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Gardner played well today.  He bounced back from a bad early pick and made good decisions after that.  He's a true dual threat quarterback with the arm and legs.  He showed it today.  I've always thought he would be good or even great once he got a decent shot to prove himself.  Remember this was his FIRST start.  It was idiotic to have Bellomy rather than Gardner as the #2 behind Robinson and it cost them a game.

I hope Gardner gets a good shot at starting next year and gets a redshirt as he deserves.

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November 3rd, 2012 at 6:44 PM | idiotic? (Score:5 Normal)
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I'm not sure it was all of "idiotic." It was a calculated decision with known risks... that turned out to burn us last week. But who knows how some of the other games turn out if we don't have Gardner at WR. I'm not saying he was a world-beater, but he's contributed.

 

And you can't have your cake and eat it too. Gardner can either focus on being a good WR or a good QB, but I don't think he can do both. So I agreed with the call last week to put Bellomy in when Denard went out.

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November 3rd, 2012 at 8:07 PM | I agree with your agreeing (Score:0 Normal)
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But after 0-10 start for Bellomy, or the int's why not see what a rusty DG could do? Felt like the coaches conceded the game by sticking with the deer in the headlights. No offense to Bellomy, nice kid, going to get better...

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November 3rd, 2012 at 9:53 PM | That game is in the past. We (Score:5 Normal)
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That game is in the past. We lost. Bellamy didn't perform as we hoped he could. Move on.

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November 4th, 2012 at 12:40 PM | Gardner didn't practice at QB (Score:5 Normal)
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Gardner didn't practice at QB the week of the Nebraska game.  That's it in a nutshell.  Almost no football coach will play a guy who didn't practice - especially at QB.

Also, there's something to be said for showing patience with your quarterback.  Gardner's first quarter yesterday wasn't a whole lot better than Bellomy's third quarter against Nebraska - we gained zero first downs in three drives.  As with Bellomy (and Denard against ND), they gave him a chance to work through the mistakes and keep going.  In general, I think that's a better approach than the strategy some coaches have (Brian Kelly and Danny Hope come to mind) of having a quick hook and leaving their QBs constantly looking over their shoulder.

 

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November 3rd, 2012 at 6:38 PM | Lewan! (Score:5 Normal)
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How about Lewan on the yakety-sax-to-Dileo-TOUCHDOWN!! play? He stays home and then lays a nice block on someone while Gardner is coming around. 1) Good discipline staying home. 2) Staying alert to what's going on with his QB. 3) Nice hit. At 1:30 in the highlights.

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November 3rd, 2012 at 7:02 PM | Live thread (Score:4 Normal)
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Let me start by saying that I am a regular reader but i don't post a lot. With that out of the way I absolutely hate some of the comments in the live feed thread. Some of the comments there are the dumbest most hatred filled comments i have ever read. I was ashamed to read them and how little faith some the fans have in the players and coaches. I am really frustrated and i could go on all day about this and I'm sure a lot of people agree.
 
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November 4th, 2012 at 8:41 AM | Thats the fun of the Liveblog (Score:4 Normal)
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It's the wild west, we're all wearing sandpaper diapers hopped up on meth.

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November 4th, 2012 at 10:21 AM | I become disappointed with people who bail (Score:2 Underrated)
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on the team when we get down a score or two, or start complaining that all is lost. I find that pretty weak.

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November 3rd, 2012 at 7:15 PM | Knowing what the coaches know (Score:0 Overrated)
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Knowing what the coaches know now would they put dg at wr or Denard at wr hybrid at the beginning of the year? Dumb hypothetical but I have been asking myself that whenever Denard is hurt or makes a bad throw. Also Jake Ryan is man ball on defense.

 

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November 3rd, 2012 at 7:35 PM | I just can't see the PR (Score:2)
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I just can't see the PR nightmare of pulling Robinson as QB.  Robinson = QB ... find a role for Gardner.  To me, WR seemed apt.  Hence the decision in 2012 to move Gardner to that role.

The mistake -- to the extent there was one -- was not keeping Gardner fresh for backing up QB.  I have no gripes against Bellomy -- I think he can be good -- but it seems to me the coaching staff has recognize the error and shifted back to Gardner as QB backup.

Midwestern born and raised ... now living in the heat of the Arizona desert

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November 3rd, 2012 at 7:44 PM | What nightmare? (Score:-1 Overrated)
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The nightmare the coaching staff now has is that Gardner is demonstrably the best QB on the team.

Dave

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November 4th, 2012 at 9:41 AM | Massive overstatement (Score:3 Normal)
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Massive overstatement

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November 4th, 2012 at 6:53 PM | The worst thing about sports (Score:5 Normal)
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The worst thing about sports fans is the way so many of them over react to a single event.



You are calling Gardner a better QB than Denard based on one game against Minnesota? Take a deep breath my man.

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November 5th, 2012 at 1:27 AM | Not at all (Score:1 Normal)
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I've seen DR play at being a QB for the best part of three years, but very little of it suggested to me he was anything more than a RB pressed into service because there was little better alternative.

You can mock Gardner's performance by rationalizing it as just against Minnesota, but he performed as a QB in charge of the offense, not a QB that was the offense.  Previous to Saturday, the last time I saw a Michigan QB perform as the on field conductor of the Michigan offense was January 1, 2008.

Dave

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November 5th, 2012 at 11:28 AM | I seem to remember (Score:4 Normal)
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a  game last year. There was one against a team called Ohio State. I think I'll take a QB that completes 14/17 for 170 and 3 TDs with 160 rushing and 2 more TDs in the biggest game on our schedule last year. 

Look, I get Denard hasn't been superman this year. He got knocked around by Alabama, had his worst game of his carrer at ND, got stiffled by MSU (though he made plays he needed to in crunch time), and got hurt against Nebraska. He has had a disappointing season so far. But so had the whole offense.

We have a bitch of a road schedule this year, with a downgrade at several positions on the OL, no ground game outside of Denard, and few consistent playmakers. We also haven't caused near the same ammount of turnovers this year as last, so not being set up for easy scores.

 

I really do believe Devin can be a big time player next year, he seems to fit abit better in what Borges sees as his offense. But Denard has 3 years of experience and playing in big games and can pick up big gash plays when our offense has stalled. He gives us the best chance to win our remaining games.

Sometimes I think people play down Denard for the simple fact that he isnt on one of our perenial star ladden teams. I just hope everyone sits back and enjoys these last few months, because im not sure we'll ever see anything like Denard at Michigan again.

 

 

 

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November 3rd, 2012 at 7:53 PM | I hear the pr lash back thing (Score:1)
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I hear the pr lash back thing but I would hope a coach would always pick the best player no matter what the press thinks. As I think back to the spring game and ifthat is an accurate indication of the entire spring Denard was the better qb. I think I recall an interview with Denard done by urban last year when he mentioned recruiting Denard to fl to be is x player. Denard will go done as my all time " what if" player.

 

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November 3rd, 2012 at 7:37 PM | Evidently Devin Gardner stayed (Score:3 Normal)
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at a Holiday Inn Express last night.  That is the only possible explanation.  I just can't believe that coaching staff knew he had these chops and then relegated him to the receiving corps.  It's almost like they were setting their own team up for failure.

Since I don't believe Hoke and Borges would purposely sabotage the team, I can only conclude DG experienced an epiphany in his sleep.

Of course some (most?) will pooh pooh Gardner's performance as merely occuring against Minnesota.  Fine, but how does that explain his ability to throw strikes when he was under pressure?  How does that explain his ability to keep his head and either throw a strike into the EZ or throw the ball out of bounds, or bring down the ball and run for yardage as the situation dictated?  And last but not least, hitting the deep receiver in stride.  With Gardner it looke like the expected standard rather than an accident of execution.

Dave

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November 3rd, 2012 at 8:02 PM | Ya how about when (Score:1)
Mike420GoBlue
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I was consoling myself after a first quarter with no signs of life, considering life with maybe one more win total this season. I was very impressed to see DG not get rattled, and the team pull together for each other. They had gut check, and passed IMO, seemed like everyone blocked harder, ran harder than usual...Proud of our Michigan Men today! In the community...

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November 3rd, 2012 at 9:37 PM | Even more disturbing (Score:1 Normal)
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Is the thought that hoke and Borges thought Bellomy superior to devin

Keep your stick on the ice.

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November 3rd, 2012 at 9:51 PM | I don't think they believed (Score:5 Normal)
snarling wolverine
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I don't think they believed Bellomy was better, but rather, that Gardner could help the team more at receiver, where we needed someone to replace Stonum, than he would serving as injury insurance at QB (which would mean sitting on the bench most of the season).  They never said that it would be a permanent position switch.

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November 4th, 2012 at 2:03 PM | Your last line sums it up (Score:2 Normal)
Amutnal
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Your last line sums it up perfectly. Denard never looks comfortable in the pocket. He still looks unnatural and clueless on almost every pass play. I hold my breath for even the most simple of passes.

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November 4th, 2012 at 3:42 PM | Devin asked the coaching (Score:3 Normal)
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Devin asked the coaching staff to be placed at WR because he wanted to see the field this year.  As was mentioned before he hadn't taken any reps at QB during the Nebraska week so they didn't feel comfortable putting him in.  That's the point which is a valid argument.  Stick with a very struggling Bellomy or throw Devin in who hadn't practiced.  I think they should have thrown him in the Nebraska game.

"They will meet a dastardly fate here for that! There isn't a Michigan Man who wouldn't like go out and scalp those Buckeyes right now."

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November 3rd, 2012 at 7:57 PM | I hear this way too much (Score:2 Normal)
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Denard is our QB. End of discussion. Gardner will have his time.

not just "douchey" MGoBlog user, but now TRUSTED MGoBlog user

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November 3rd, 2012 at 8:14 PM | People forget what we have (Score:2 Normal)
Mike420GoBlue
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Can we let Nard be Nard? 4 more guaranteed games, and he's been the most electric player possibly ever in the history of history! After his time at M is done, then we can let Gard be Gard

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November 4th, 2012 at 1:54 PM | Also the most frustrating. (Score:3 Normal)
Amutnal
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Also the most frustrating. The last several games have been painful to watch (ND and MSU in particular) with Denard at QB.

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November 4th, 2012 at 4:24 PM | lol, as if our problems (Score:1 Overrated)
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lol, as if our problems against MSU were because of Denard...

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November 4th, 2012 at 5:30 PM | To be honest,  I don't think (Score:3 Normal)
jmblue
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To be honest,  I don't think Denard is the kind of QB best-suited to exploit their defense.  Gardner, with another year under his belt, might be that guy next year.

 

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November 4th, 2012 at 5:43 PM | No QB can be much more (Score:2 Normal)
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No QB can be much more successful than Denard was in that game with such a poor running game and play calling.

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November 4th, 2012 at 6:50 PM | Look, I love Denard and all, (Score:5 Normal)
jmblue
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Look, I love Denard and all, but when we have a QB who consistently goes through his progressions and makes quicker decisions (which I think Gardner is capable of doing), I think we'll be surprised at how much better the playcalling will suddenly look.  And if the Minnesota game is any indication, Gardner may be better at throwing the deep ball, which would punish defenses for cheating up their safeties to stop the run.  

Denard is the starter for this year if he's healthy - the experience he has is invaluable.  But Gardner could well be a better fit for what Borges wants to run.

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November 4th, 2012 at 7:01 PM | This.  The thing about Denard (Score:3 Normal)
snarling wolverine
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This.  The thing about Denard that is frustrating is that he will go to the predetermined pre-snap read almost without exception.  And he will frequently stare that guy down the whole way.   It's not just "RPS" luck that his deep balls are usually thrown into double coverage.  The safeties read his eyes and go to the intended receiver - often leaving another receiver completely uncovered in the process.

Gardner showed an improvisational ability on Saturday that Denard seldom has.  Yes, sometimes that leads to him holding onto the ball too long and taking bad sacks, but it can also put huge pressure on a defense to keep covering downfield.  The throw to Dileo was a classic example.  A broken play, sure, but he has the ability to keep plays alive while still looking downfield (and he threw an absolutely perfect pass there).  

 

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November 4th, 2012 at 7:32 PM | I also noticed with Devin in (Score:2)
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I also noticed with Devin in the pocket (apply all caveats about sample size and it just being Minnesota) the WRs would keep running their deep patterns.  With Denard when he starts scrambling odds are he isn't going to be throwing a nice deep strike.  He tends to either run or toss up a QB OHNO if he tries a deep ball.  Whereas I felt Devin had a lot of success being elusive, but then getting setup to send up a deep ball.  The highlight being Dileo sitting in the endzone basically going "What's up guys?  Have you heard about Devin's arm strength?".  

When Denard starts running, teams have begun to figure out you can halve the field.  Every so often he'll make you pay with a deep one, but most of the time once Denard goes in motion you don't have to worry about anything deeper than ~20 yards.  

At the end of the day though I think with our passing game, when Denard starts running the WRs start blocking.  Which is great in that Denard is an excellent runner but it also tells the defense what is going on.  Denard isn't dual threat because he can't pass to someone who is busy blocking a safety.  Denard is just an amazing RB at that point.  Devin looked a lot better in the passing game because he managed to keep his dual threat status alive longer in a lot of plays.  

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November 3rd, 2012 at 7:58 PM | Gardner looks even more solid in the replay (Score:2 Normal)
MGlobules
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than he did during the game. We got ourselfs a good one. 

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November 3rd, 2012 at 8:43 PM | *Love, love, love the tackle (Score:3 Normal)
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*Love, love, love the tackle by Jake Ryan at 4:42.

*Gardner's pass to Gallon at 5:24 was perfection.

*Roy Roundtree continues his tradition of one incredible catch, one good catch and then we don't see him the rest of the game. 

Go Blue!  Always!

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November 3rd, 2012 at 9:15 PM | I know that terrible (Score:5 Normal)
Turd_Ferguson
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I know that terrible announcers seem to be the norm nowadays, but Dear Lord, Chris Martin has got to be the worst color guy that I've ever heard. I was doing double takes the whole game. My favorite line was when he was talking about one of our defensive players...
"He's truly made himself into the player he's become."
Well... yeah.

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November 4th, 2012 at 12:38 PM | Martin seemed to be really (Score:2)
jmblue
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Martin seemed to be really harping on Gallon for being "inconsistent" yesterday.  I didn't understand what that was about.  Gallon's been pretty productive this year.  I think we just haven't gone to him enough.

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November 3rd, 2012 at 9:26 PM | A new halo? (Score:4 Normal)
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My daughter, watching Jake Ryan in the highlights package: "He looks like an angel".

Wanting something to be true does not make it true.

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