Hoops Hello: Moritz Wagner Comment Count

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John Beilein picked up his first commit of the 2015 class today when German forward Moritz Wagner announced he'll attend Michigan:

Wagner chose the college route over playing professionally in Germany for Alba Berlin. Beilein traveled to watch Wagner play for his club team last year, and Michigan jumped to the forefront of Wagner's recruitment when they offered him last month during a campus visit.

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The recruiting services don't evaluate overseas players, so Wagner is unranked across the board. He's listed at 6'9", 210 on Rivals, which fits with reports that he isn't quite a full 6'10", which he was listed at on several sites. When Wagner visited Ann Arbor, Rivals' Eric Bossi found a scout to give his thoughts on where Wagner would be ranked if he were an American prospect:

So, exactly what type of player is Wagner? Rivals.com spoke with an NBA scout over the weekend and the scout said Moritz isn't likely as tall as the 6-foot-10 he's being listed at, but he is plenty big to play as a college four man. The scout said Wagner has good touch, is clever with the ball and that he competes on both ends of the floor.

"He's not a guy that is on our radar as somebody who is going to be a pro right away," said the scout. "He's somebody that we see going to college and then we'll see from there. I'd look at him as a top-20 to top-40 type recruit if he were in the States."

That would put him towards the tail end of the five-stars or among the top four-stars, which... yeah, that sounds nice.

SCOUTING

Scout's Evan Daniels caught up with an NBA Scout to get his take on Wagner's game:

From the video I’ve been able to get my hands on, Wagner’s all around skill set is what immediately stands out. He has impressive hands, good touch around the basket and can score both facing the rim and with his back to it.

“He’s a versatile kid who knows how to play ball,” a NBA scout that has evaluated him multiple times told Scout. “He’s not an athlete, but with his length and coordination he manages to deceive his opponents and get to the rack quiet easily. Once he becomes a more consistent shooter he will be a nightmare on the wing.

“He reads the game well, gets his teammates involved and is unselfish player,” the NBA scout added. “The most impressive thing about him is his passion for the game and the will to win. He legitimately cares for the game.”

This scouting report from European Prospects comes from last May:

The young Moritz Wagner is a really interesting prospect for the future. Used as a PF on multiple occasions, Wagner showed that he has an outside game and that his future should be on the SF position. He can shoot from outside, either on catch-and-shoot situations or in the Pick and Pop when being the screener. Wagner can also put the ball on the floor which works particularly well when used against taller power forwards. He is also able to drive with direction changes and finish against stronger or taller players in the paint. Athletically, he is looking good and with his overall length, he is a good vertical presence on both sides of the court. Wagner really needs to be used on the wing positions in the future as he has the tools to become an interesting long small forward in the future.

Wagner still needs to hone his outside shot, but he's got great length for a Beilein wing, and he should be able to create offense off the dribble. While he isn't regarded as a one-and-done talent, his German team very much wanted to sign him to a pro contract, but Wagner reportedly wants to make it to the NBA and believes Michigan provides him the best path to get there.

OFFERS

Wagner's narrow focus on Michigan didn't allow for many other schools to come under serious consideration. When he was planning his visit, he'd also heard from Arizona, Auburn, Cal, Duke, Providence, Virginia, and UNLV. That's a pretty impressive list of suitors for an overseas prospect making a late decision.

STATS

From UMHoops:

In the NBBL (German youth league), Wagner is averaging 17 points, 5 rebounds, two assists and two steals per game while shooting 61% on twos and 30% on threes. He also averaged 9.6 points and 5.4 rebounds during the Adidas Next Generation U18 Tournament, helping Alba Berlin to a third-place finish.

Playing with Germany’s U18 team in the FIBA Euro Championships, Wagner averaged 5.2 points and three rebounds in 10 minutes a game.

The outside shot needs some work, but that's some impressive efficiency inside the arc.

VIDEO

Going from most to least recent:

While his athleticism doesn't jump off the screen, his skill level is apparent.

PREDICTION BASED ON FLIMSY EVIDENCE

Wagner is going to need some time adding bulk at Camp Sanderson, and his slight physique—and still-developing shot—may limit his minutes as a freshman, especially if Caris LeVert comes back and a logjam results on the wings. He'll most likely be competing with Duncan Robinson and Kameron Chatman for a spot in the rotation, and of the three we've only been able to see Chatman play at this level.

Down the road, he's a very intriguing prospect. Michigan really missed having a player at the four who could create off the dribble, and while Aubrey Dawkins made some progress in that regard late in the season, Wagner looks like the most polished slasher among the guys who could play at that spot. If his outside shot comes along, he could be a very impactful stretch four. 

UPSHOT FOR THE REST OF THE CLASS

Wagner's commitment means Michigan is currently at the scholarship limit for 2015-16, and that's assuming Max Bielfeldt will move on to another program for his fifth year, as expected. If LeVert departed for the NBA, that'd open up a spot. Michigan is still in pursuit of five-star 2015 forward Jaylen Brown, and should he decide he wants to attend, it's hard to imagine Michigan wouldn't have a spot for him, perhaps by putting Austin Hatch on medical scholarship; there have been some positive indicators for Brown since his visit, but he's still expected to end up elsewhere.

Unless Brown makes a surprise choice to come to Michigan, this should be the conclusion of the program's 2015 recruiting.

Comments

Michigan4Life

April 5th, 2015 at 3:15 PM ^

Brown isn't coming here.....? As of now, he still has Michigan as among his leaders and hasn't made a decision yet. Michigan is still in the race along with UCLA.

Michigan4Life

April 5th, 2015 at 11:14 PM ^

You don't turn down #1-2 player in the country because you run out of scholarship. There's Caris decision. If Caris decides to leave, that's one scholarship open for Jaylen (assuming that Max does a grad school transfer).

UMICH1606

April 5th, 2015 at 3:22 PM ^

Poor Sam. He is the best Michigan insider by far, he says that UM has a legit shot at Brown. They may even be in a top 2 situation and Ace refuses to believe there is a chance.

Tater

April 5th, 2015 at 3:50 PM ^

As Dylan noted over at UM Hoops, this team is getting a lot taller.  I didn't notice that Duncan Robinson is 6-8.  With Wilson making his delayed "entrance" next season and Wagner being 6-9, Michigan is finally going to have a tall team.  

Its no accident that the only Michigan team to win the NCAA Championship had PG Rumeal Robinson distributing the ball to (doing the heights from memory here; they should be close) 6-7 Glen Rice, 6-9 Sean Higgins, 6-10 Terry Mills and the combo of 6-9 Loy Vaught and 6-9 Mark Hughes.  

Basketball may have evolved, but height is still a great thing to have on your side.

 

pearlw

April 5th, 2015 at 4:33 PM ^

If Brown were to come here and they open a scholarship by putting Hatch on medical, I think there would be alot of negative coverage nationwide given how much publicity there has been around Hatch. Im not sure if they can go down that road.



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PurpleStuff

April 5th, 2015 at 4:52 PM ^

He also wouldn't lose his scholarship or have to leave UM.  I'm also pretty sure Beilein could find him a role as a team manager or something like that if he can't perform physically.

The question is really about whether or not he'll ever be healthy enough to play D-1 basketball.  If he can come back in the next couple of years, then great.  But if that isn't realistic, it doesn't make sense to limit who the team can bring in, especially when Austin still gets a free education and probably remains close to the team.  I don't think any sane person would have a problem with that decision.

champswest

April 5th, 2015 at 6:57 PM ^

If he is okay with it then probably everyone else would be also. But, if being on the team and having a chance to get back to his previous skill level is what drives him and gives him hope, then I for one would have an issue with yanking that out from under him. I think we can prosper on 12 scholarships if it comes to that.

DrewGOBLUE

April 5th, 2015 at 7:59 PM ^

Being on the team and participating in all the practices, workouts, meetings, etc. I would think is pretty significant for Hatch. It gives him some added structure in his life and likely provides a good outlet for keeping his mind off all the unfortunate circumstances he's faced.

Most importantly, though, his teammates and coaches I'm sure have become his de facto family. So it's probably best for Austin that he's on the roster and is as much a part of the team as the other players.

pearlw

April 5th, 2015 at 7:27 PM ^

Im not expressing any opinion on it..just saying I think other fan bases would not treat this well. The fact that Austin has played in actual games shows that he is healthy enough to...well, play in actual games. Therefore, if he was moved to a medical waiver without some new injury then it would be viewed that the only reason for the switch was to give his scholarship to a better player. Yes - he would still be on scholarship at the school but he would no longer be allowed to play in a game. I realize Michigan has been loyal to him over the past few years but Im guessing public criticism would quickly forget that part.



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Larry

April 5th, 2015 at 8:47 PM ^

Looks like I paid a little bit closer attention to the SportsCenter feature "Miraculous" than most. They discussed his injuries in more detail than I had ever seen before, and I can't imagine they did so without Austin's approval -- to do otherwise would be a massive violation of HIPAA, for one thing. Specifically as it concerns basketball, they noted that the traumatic brain injury (TBI) he suffered did damage to a particular area that handles processing of visual stimuli and the body's responses thereto. He's obviously way ahead of where he was in the days and months following June 24, 2011, and for that we are all grateful; but by Austin's own admission, he's way behind his peers on the court and has trouble processing things at game speed, and may never get that back. Yes, he played a few minutes this year, and it was awesome when he hit that free throw against Wayne State. He most certainly should stay close to the team in some capacity if he does go the medical route, in my opinion. Hell, I still plan to name my hypothetical future firstborn son Austin in his honor. All that being said, though, he may just never be able to get the visual-processing mental parts of the game back enough to be competitive at the college level, and a medical scholarship might end up being best for everybody.

MichiganMAN47

April 6th, 2015 at 8:56 AM ^

I still doubt that Beilein will switch over his scholarship to a medical. There is way more upside to keeping Austin on- suppose he can regain his former motor skills? That would be one of the greatest sports stories of all time. Beilein will do what Austin wants, ultimately. I don't think Austin looks like he's ready to give up though.

93Grad

April 5th, 2015 at 4:56 PM ^

It's weird that we have never really had a true stretch 4 while Beleien has been here when the offense is tailor made for it. I'm not sure Wagner shoots well enough to qualify either but size is always good



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Rabbit21

April 6th, 2015 at 8:16 AM ^

Good to see the Beilein eye for talent paying off again. It'd be nice if we didn't always have to rely on finding sleepers, but at the same time this does make it more fun to watch guys blow up. The next couple of years should be really fun!

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