[Ben Silberman]

Hoops Hello: DeVante' Jones Comment Count

Ace May 1st, 2021 at 12:04 PM

Michigan has landed one of the most coveted transfers in the country at their position of greatest uncertainty. Coastal Carolina point guard DeVante' Jones picked the Wolverines over fellow finalists Memphis, Texas, and Texas Tech moments ago on the Field of 68 podcast. While the reigning Sun Belt Player of the Year is testing the NBA Draft waters, Jones is expected to withdraw at some point in the evaluation process—he did just choose a school, after all.

Jones had his destination in mind before announcing his choice and told 247's Dushawn London why he ultimately picked Michigan:

“I made my choice based on where I can fit the system. I watched film on all the teams and there is a particular team that stood out for my style of play and I can't unsee it. I feel like the only way it wouldn't work if it was my fault. I couldn't blame anyone, it would be my fault. Plus the fan base stood out. Coastal had a major fan base and it doubled them and they were amazing. Just the collective effort from the coaches, the fan base and just the whole university.”

Listed at 6'1, 200 pounds, Jones is a grad transfer with two seasons of eligibility remaining. His addition puts Michigan one player over the scholarship limit for now, though that's anticipated to change whenever projected lottery pick Franz Wagner announces his NBA Draft intentions.

STATS

Let's start, as we often do here, by anchoring ourselves with some numbers. Context is important when discussing transfers: the Sun Belt was 14th in KenPom's conference rankings in 2019-20 (the last year with significant non-conference crossover), producing near dead-average teams and finishing just ahead of the Ivy League, a useful comparison point what with Mike Smith coming over from Columbia last year.

Much like Smith at Columbia, Jones has been the go-to guy for Coastal Carolina the last two years, though his role was significantly different in those two seasons. As a sophomore, Jones was a classic point guard who ran a lot of pick-and-roll with good efficiency. This past season, however, the Chanticleers were better off with Jones playing the two as the team spread around ballhandling duties; he got much more of his usage spotting up (and often attacking closeouts) or cutting to the hoop.

Jones produced in both roles. He averaged 17.4 points, 5.8 rebounds, and 5.7 assists per game in 2019-20, then 19.3/7.2/2.9 last season to earn conference player of the year. While his outside shot hasn't always been dialed in—more on that later—his impressive finishing at the hoop, solid pullup game, and ability to convert fouls into points have made him an efficient player throughout his career.

These numbers are pulled from Torvik and don't include non-DI competition, which pulls four games from the 2020-21 sample:

  USG ORtg eFG% TS% ARate TO% FTRate FT 2P 3P
2020-21 24.7 116.5 52.7 59.3 16.8 16.2 43.3 109-126
(86.5%)
98-180
(54.4%)
37-111
(33.3%)
2019-20 26.4 113.8 53.0 59.8 33.4 21.9 46.0 146-169
(86.4%)
142-248
(57.3%)
35-119
(29.4%)

Note the huge gap between effective field goal percentage and true shooting percentage; the latter takes free throws into account, and the improvement from eFG% to TS% shows how much value Jones adds by drawing fouls and hitting free throws (a lot).

While this can get dangerous in a hurry, let's look at a few defensive metrics:

  DReb% Stl% Fouls/40 DBPM D-PRPG DRtg
2020-21 17.4 4.2 3.1 2.8 3.9 88.3
2019-20 16.5 2.7 3.4 0.8 2.8 102.7

Jones is an excellent defensive rebounder for his position. He aggressively hunts the ball, posting the #18 steal rate in the country last season. He poses a danger as both an on-ball pickpocket and jumper of passing lanes. That aggression comes with some extra fouls but not enough to get him into serious trouble too often; I also expect Juwan Howard to rein him in a bit on that end—he's on a better team that doesn't need to gamble as much now.

Across the board, the all-in-one metrics like him as a defender and believe he stepped up his game as a junior. Synergy grades him as a poor on-ball defender. So much of that is due to shortcomings against spot-up shooters that I think a lot of his low grade is because of scheme—CC played zone for about a quarter of their possessions—though he also comes out below average defending pick-and-roll ballhandlers.

Being in Michigan's defensive environment with Hunter Dickinson, Moussa Diabate, and Brandon Johns ready to clean up mistakes should make him look better. For what it's worth, Coastal's defense went off a cliff without him, via Hoop Lens:

A seven-point gap in two-point percentage is massive and a strong indicator that Jones was substantially better on defense than most of his teammates.

The line is starting to blur between scouting and stats, which is my cue to move to the next section, where I'll continue to blur the two but with more video and fewer charts.

[Hit THE JUMP for my scouting, lots of video, and the team's outlook with Jones in the fold.]

SCOUTING

For this post I've watched every highlight video I could find plus Jones' possessions in a good statistical performance from his lead guard sophomore year (in the Sun Belt tourney against Appalachian State) and a poor one from his more off-ball-focused junior year (also in the conference tourney against ASU).

After taking all that in, I love this pickup for Michigan even more than I did initially. Jones should be a productive starter or sixth man who can play both guard spots and generate offense.

His scoring near the hoop is his standout trait. According to hoop-math, Jones shot 61% at the basket over the last two seasons despite receiving assists on only 31% of those made shots, a fantastic mark for a below-the-rim 6'1 guard. 

  Shots
at rim
Made
at rim
Ast'd
at rim
Shots
2pt J
Made
2pt J
Ast'd
2pt J
Shots
3pt
Made
3pt
Ast'd
3pt
2020-21 140 87 32 62 26 5 131 47 39
2019-20 171 104 27 83 44 8 125 37 24

Whether playing off ballscreens, beating closeouts, cutting off the ball, or attacking in transition, Jones tends to find his way to the hoop or close to it—a lot of those "two-point jumpers" are runners from close to the restricted area. He's a crafty finisher who contorts his body to create angles for his shot and draw contact from defenders. He can finish through that contact, even from bigger defenders, and he'll make his fair share of circus shots. He possesses, both by look and statistics, one of the best floaters in the country:

He gets downhill off the pick-and-roll and knows how to manipulate a screen; he's got a good feel for when to turn down the pick because the defense is overplaying it. While his passing numbers out of the high screen haven't been great, he's shown the ability to make some advanced reads/passes:

He's generally only been on the court with one or two shooters and nobody approaching a roll threat, which won't be the case at Michigan. I think he's capable of being a Big Ten lead guard, even if Michigan only asks him to carry that load some of the time.

Jones has a workable pull-up jumper if defenses go under the screen, though because it's more set shot than jump shot he needs room to get it off (see above). Hopefully the coaches will eliminate some of his more audacious three-point attempts—he had some contested hoists in this year's ASU tourney game that'd get him pulled at Michigan. He's capable of hitting stepbacks but I doubt that's a shot Howard wants him taking often.

As a spot-up shooter, Jones has latent potential, and his numbers look better when you add in the non-DI games from this season (a three-pointer is still the same distance, after all), which raises his three-point percentage to a solid 37 on decent volume (50-for-136 in 26 games). His free throw marksmanship indicates his outside shot should be pretty good but his offensive surroundings have made it tough to evaluate. The form is consistent enough that I think he can get into that 35-38% range with decent shot selection:

He shot above-average on jumpers last year even though 60% of his catch-and-shoot attempts were contested. His low, out-in-front release means he needs room; he should have more of that in Michigan's offense and they won't require him to force nearly as many shots.

I suspect, with more talent around, he'll reel in his game like Smith did last year. There are some flashy pass attempts gone awry that may stick in his game and he occasionally got caught off-guard when teams sent help and were able to strip the ball on drives. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a similar transition period as Smith had while Jones gets accustomed to driving into bigger, better defenders.

Jones is a terror in transition, grading out between good and elite on Synergy the last two seasons when including passes. He gets a lot of free points because of steals but also can score when the degree of difficulty goes much higher:

His plus defensive rebounding contributes to his transition game; he'll rip and run, and I'm guessing Howard will encourage that as long as he isn't forcing bad shots in traffic—Jones is very good at converting transition oppportunities into quality shots or free throw attempts.

Evaluating defense is a tougher task in general, especially when working with limited full-game video, and Coastal played a lot of zone against ASU with some untranslatable junk—Michigan is never gonna resort to a box-and-one—that didn't hold any value from an evaluation perspective. I don't see any reason why Jones can't be part of a good defense at Michigan, especially after Smith proved passable on that end of the floor in Howard's system. Jones has good size and strength for a point guard and doesn't look deficient in terms of lateral movement. 

It appears Howard wants Jones in that lead playmaking role. From London's 247 article again [emphasis mine]:

“They had a great year last year. I spoke with their guard/leader Mike Smith who's leaving and he said great things. He was in the same situation as me coming in from a smaller school and he made a big impact. Also talking with Juwan Howard, Howard Eisley, Saddi Washington, Phil Martelli just the whole coaching staff having a great conversation. They showed me how I can help and how I can contribute right away. I liked [s]eeing the film and picking Juwan Howard's brain and him picking my brain. I feel like that would be a great fit if I chose that school.

“I had a zoom call with Michigan yesterday which went well. Watching the history behind Michigan and the legacy is crazy. It's unbelievable at times thinking about how Juwan Howard wants me to be a part of his team. Coming from where I come from I never thought a guy like Juwan Howard would want me at his school running his team. He told me he wants me to come in and run his team. He said how they have one of the best recruiting classes and he wants me to come in and help the freshman guys and be a leader right away.”

That's his best fit on this roster. He provides both a sturdier floor and a higher ceiling for the team. Now it's all about settling into a new role. Given Jones has already changed his game to serve his team once in his career, he should be able to do it again.

VIDEO

Senior season midseason highlights:

Shorter version of the same:

Sophomore highlights:

Single-game reel against a top-150 Wofford squad:

PREDICTION BASED ON FLIMSY EVIDENCE

While you never know with up-transfers, I don't think Jones is coming to Michigan to be a backup, and he can be a plus starter in the Big Ten. His skill set is an excellent complement to that of Eli Brooks, while the versatility of both guards should make it easier for Howard to work his younger charges into the rotation. The depth chart should look something like this, though the rotation obviously won't include all 14 scholarship players (and will feature multiple players getting time at different positions):

PG SG SF PF C
D. Jones E. Brooks C. Houstan B. Johns H. Dickinson
F. Collins K. Bufkin I. Barnes T. Williams M. Diabate
Z. Jackson A. Nunez J. Howard W. Tschetter  

Michigan already had a potential Final Four team; Jones solidifies that projection. Bart Torvik's 2022 projections had Michigan at #5 in the country before the Jones addition. His rostercast tool allows us to see the projection with Jones in the fold:

Second in the country sounds good. Torvik's projections see Jones settling into a lower-usage role (17%) and being a highly efficient offensive player (122 O-Rating, highest on the team) while playing 70% of the team's minutes.

I had Michigan in their own tier atop the Big Ten before Jones committed. I don't see that outlook changing before the season. Jones gives the team an experienced scoring and playmaking threat at guard and a disruptive defender who can afford to take a few chances with a towering frontcourt defending the rim. This season should be every bit as exciting as we've anticipated.

Comments

Shop Smart Sho…

May 1st, 2021 at 12:19 PM ^

Is there any reason to think Zeb wouldn't be a better fit at the 2 going forward? Especially now with two more natural PGs on the team, it would seem his height and athleticism would make that a more natural fit. I'd also think his familiarity with the system would make him more likely to be less of a defensive downgrade than Bufkin when Eli goes to the bench.

Megumin

May 1st, 2021 at 2:11 PM ^

Small sample size, in mostly garbage time minutes where he was playing with the rest of the Kenpom Kids meaning he isn't being set up with good looks. I don't think he was projected as a knockdown shooter coming in, but I think he deserves some more dedicated sophomore minutes before we draw any conclusions on Zeb.

UMinSF

May 1st, 2021 at 2:35 PM ^

Regarding Zeb, in general, I find people here are far too quick to give up on young players. Most freshmen simply aren't very good. Hunter was the exception, not the rule.

The fact he got some minutes is an indicator Juwan and staff see potential in Zeb. He's shown flashes of being able to shoot. A sample size of 25 proves...nothing.

Juwan probably wouldn't have even recruited freshman DeVante' Jones. He's an exciting pick-up because he's battle tested and mature.

So many people were ready to give up on underclassmen Brandon Johns and Eli Brooks. Look at them now!

For all the incredible young talent coming it next year, look at Ace's depth chart - dominated by experienced players.

It's possible WIlliams and/or Zeb won't contribute much or decide they have a better path to PT elsewhere; it's also very possible their growing pains and experience will help them grow into really fine players and key contributors. 

One of the very best parts of college sports is watching skinny, erratic kids develop into talented, mature young men. 

Maize and Luke

May 1st, 2021 at 10:04 PM ^

Maybe I’m in the minority but I like what I saw from Zeb. Obviously he wasn’t ready for major minutes but when he was on the court he looked very comfortable and confident which tells me he just needs to get used to the schemes and speed of the college game, especially on defense. I hope he sticks it out like Brandon Johns, he should be in line for more minutes every year and can capitalize when the team needs him.

MaizeBlueA2

May 2nd, 2021 at 12:18 AM ^

I do too, I think it's weird that so much people suggest he's a bust or a transfer.

He got better, the game was moving too quickly early on. He reminded me of Caris LeVert early in his freshman year...he could barely walk and dribble at the same time, he was just moving 200mph.

Late in the year things started to slow down for him and by his sophomore year, he was ready to build towards where he is today. 

Zeb is basically a RS Freshman going into this season...give him an off-season and watch him come back in the fall, he's going to be a lot better, simply because he will have slowed down and have a better understanding of the game. 

Same thing for Terrance Williams.

JamieH

May 2nd, 2021 at 7:07 PM ^

I don't see it as giving up on him.  It's just an observation that, in general, shooters shoot.  He had plenty of good looks last season. He shot well in maybe one game?

I know DeJulius was used as an example, but he shot 36% from 3 his sophomore year, then transferred to Cinci and shot 20% from 3 his junior year.   He just wasn't a great shooter.

Not every player HAS to be a great shooter, but if you are going to be a shooting guard, it is part of the title.  It is hard to be an elite team these days without a shooting guard who can hit near 40% from 3.  

blue in dc

May 1st, 2021 at 3:07 PM ^

Freshman David Dejulius:

1-15 from 3 pt (6.7%)

6 - 30 FG (20%)

1-6 free-throw (16.7%)

Sophomore David Dejulius

30-83 from 3 (36.1%)

75 - 180 field goal (41.7%)

37-51 free throw (72.5%).

It is absolutely possible for a player to grow significantly more comfortable between freshman and sophomore years.

For comparison: Zeb Jackson:

2-13 from 3 point (15.4%)

5/26 field goal (19.2%)

4-7 free throw (57.1% )

 

 

 

mitchewr

May 1st, 2021 at 9:06 PM ^

Well put. 
 

Zeb can absolutely take a substantial leap in his game in his second year, and I think that should be expected somewhat. Yeah freshman in basketball can make instant impacts, but that’s not often the case and they’re still freshman. Let’s give the young guys some time to acclimate to the college game and not rush to give em the ol’ heave-ho 

Jordan2323

May 2nd, 2021 at 7:23 PM ^

His shooting percentage mirrors how he wants to play. He transferred because he wanted to have the ball and shoot more and be the man. His shot selection causes his poor percentage. He likes to do the James Harden step backs and dribble into a pull up 3 way too much. Zeb did this a lot last year too. Every shot was a few dribbles and then a pull up iso shot. Zeb needs to drive to the basket more and shoot more in the flow of the shot instead of off balance pull ups all of the time. That’ll determine whether he makes a leap or not. He has the talent but sometimes it’s a mental thing.  

mpbear14

May 1st, 2021 at 1:12 PM ^

Zeb looked like a baby deer on the floor this past season.  The coaches would be foolish to count on him for anything. At the same time, it's still too early for them to give up on him.  

He's a 4 year player who desperately needs 1-2 full off seasons of camp Sanderson. Then I could see him being a fit somewhere.  In 2021, I don't see a spot for him in the rotation.

Shop Smart Sho…

May 1st, 2021 at 2:34 PM ^

If you think Zeb needs Camp Sanderson, wait until you see Bufkin. He's the same height, lighter, and without the elite athleticism. Which is why it would seem to be more likely that Zeb is going to be more likely to cope guarding opposing SGs as Eli's backup.

Zeb was seen as a combo guard when he was 2-3 inches shorter than he is now because of his fluidity and explosion. Bufkin was seen as a SF because of his shooting ability and lack of lateral quickness.

Seems like every year we get really excited about freshmen, only to forget how difficult it is to make the transition on both ends of the floor. For guys like Diabate that won't be as much of an issue because he's basically an NBA level athlete right now. But for the 4-stars in the Jackson/Bufkin range, they've got more work to do before they can cope.

Indonacious

May 1st, 2021 at 4:50 PM ^

In most years, Kobe bufkin (McDonald all American) and Frankie Collins would be the HEADLINER recruits. They are consensus top 50 prospects. Sure, they likely won’t come and dominate as freshman, but I expect one of them to at least be at curbelo (from Illinois) level. Either of these are top 15 recruits in 247 era for Michigan!! We aren’t used to seeing multiple prospects at these levels in basketball even with our recent success. 

Gulogulo37

May 2nd, 2021 at 2:18 AM ^

This is true but as Ant Wright pointed out in his video about the incoming class, teams like Duke and Kentucky have had classes just as good and fielded really disappointing teams. The fact is we just don't know. Some guys surprise, some disappoint. Some put it together later and some never do. Same can be said for Zeb. He could be the same guy next year or he could take a huge leap.

Shop Smart Sho…

May 1st, 2021 at 11:08 PM ^

Matt, the guy Brian pays to write the basketball scouting and recruiting pieces on this site, said explicitly that Bufkin was lacking in lateral quickness and would struggle against B1G guards and would probably be better suited to SF at this level. 

From the Hello post.

Kobe is a fluid athlete that has some deceptive pop as a leaper. He doesn’t necessarily have great first-step acceleration, but his long strides allow him to get separation in tandem with his footwork and the threat of his pull-up.

Defensively, I don’t necessarily think he moves well enough to defend quicker guards in the B10. I’ll reiterate that for me position designation is determined by the defensive assignment you are most likely to draw. In my opinion, Bufkin is best suited to defend the SF position. A few of the coaching staff members among his final 5 are of that belief as well.


The kid can shoot, but to expect someone as thin as he is to walk in and force his way past someone older who was a top 80 recruit and has had a year in the system and the weight room seems silly. It seems to happen every year when some of the writers here get really excited about a freshman, and it generally doesn't work out as quickly as they think it will. 

Backups have to be able to play defense, and for guards who aren't 1-and-done candidates, that's generally really hard to do. If this were a team that was projected to struggle on offense then I could see the argument for a scorer like Bufkin to get forced into early duty. But I think everyone is pretty much in agreement that the biggest offensive contributor from the incoming class is going to be Houstan and most of the scouting is in agreement that he's going to have some adjustment issues on defense too. 

I could be entirely wrong, but I'd be really surprised if Bufkin plays more minutes than Jackson next year. And I don't think it will be terribly close. I think Jackson is going to be the primary backup at the 2 and there just won't be many minutes behind Eli and Zeb is way more likely to get spot minutes as the PG.

mpbear14

May 1st, 2021 at 8:26 PM ^

We’ve all seen Zeb with our own eyes. Some since he was in high school. Livers went full Fred Jackson with that praise. 
 

He could barely function at this level last year. If he had elite athleticism, we would have seen it. True freshman all over the country showed off what’s considered elite athleticism. 
 

Zeb is a project. 
 

1145SoFo

May 2nd, 2021 at 12:02 AM ^

He had a blow-by into a step back on Marcus Carr, which I give a freak stamp of a approval for a freshman. And all because the kid wasn't consistently decisive in his movements means he can't run and jump in practice? Seems unwise to dismiss Isaiahs praise based on only a few game mins of freshman play on a stacked team.

Gulogulo37

May 2nd, 2021 at 2:21 AM ^

Yes, we've seen Zeb and that's why we know he has great athleticism. Elite depends on your definition but he's way more athletic than basically any guard Michigan has had in a long time, barring the new class. His problem last year was shooting primarily, and decision making, not athleticism. 

mpbear14

May 2nd, 2021 at 10:01 AM ^

It was a combination of everything including Athleticism.  

I think Zeb will be just fine in a couple of years, but this is crazy talk about him being a + athlete. It seems some are still hanging on to his recruitment when JB was here and by all accounts, he would have been the most athletic kid JB brought in last year.  That doesn't mean he's a + athlete though.  It just means, we really weren't recruiting + athletes. 

bronxblue

May 1st, 2021 at 12:25 PM ^

Nice pickup, and hopefully he can translate the scoring potential at the lead guard spot.  Not an elite athlete but still certainly good enough, and Smith showed you don't necessarily need that to be successful.  Excited to see how the team looks with him and Brooks plus Jackson off the bench.

Jordan2323

May 1st, 2021 at 12:28 PM ^

The defensive ability of having Jones, Brooks, Houstan, Johns and Dickinson on the floor at the same time is ridiculous. You can bring in Frankie, Zeb/Bufkin, Barnes, Williams and Diabate as your back ups and not really miss anything much defensively either. Hoo boy!