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Football Recruiting Bits Prepares For Early Signing Day Comment Count

Alex.Drain December 7th, 2021 at 12:47 PM

Hello everyone! Remember recruiting? In the midst of an entertaining and consequential football season, coverage of recruiting on this website has ran a bit dry with Seth and I tied down by our weekly pieces. Seth still has 1.5 games to UFR, but with no FFFFing to do for a few weeks, I now am going to try and sweep through and pick up the recruiting coverage that has fallen a bit by the wayside. Today is our update on the 2022 class as we hit the final stretch before Early Signing Day, which is in just eight days time, on Dec. 15, as well a bit of a blurb about which prospects from 2023 might commit here in this window. Then over the next couple weeks, I'll handle some of the Hello posts we haven't gotten to yet for players who committed in the last couple of months. As for today's update: 

 

Where the 2022 Class Stands

It's been a bit since Seth last updated the recruiting board and in that time Michigan has picked up some new commitments. I'm not going to totally rehash everything, so you can go check out the recruiting board here if you want more detail, but let's run through each positional group to get a grip on where things sit: 

OFFENSE 

  • Quarterback: Michigan has 3.5* Jayden Denegal, a Speight-type prospect. The staff have typically been taking one QB a year, so this is probably set, although it wouldn't surprise me if they tried to fit one more in given the attrition of McCaffrey, Milton, and JD Johnson. 
  • Running Back: 3* CJ Stokes is the only name in the class right now. Stokes is not a highly ranked guy by the scouting services, but he was very high up on Michigan's board and given Jay Harbaugh's track record of scouting RBs, as well as Mike Hart's at Indiana, I'm pretty comfortable taking a guy like Stokes and seeing what happens. Michigan took 2 RBs last year, but with the loss of Charbonnet and possible departure of Haskins, another RB in the class wouldn't hurt. 
  • Wide Receiver: 4* Tyler Morris is one of the highest rated recruits in this class, yet is the only WR currently committed following the de-commit of Tay'shawn Trent. Michigan has a glut of receivers on the roster right now but you need to take more than one, especially after only taking two last year. 
  • Tight End: Michigan has their guys here, two players ranked right around #500 in the composite, Marlin Klein and Colston Loveland. This position is set. 
  • Offensive Line: Right now the Wolverines have two in the class, 3* OT Connor Jones, who has been in the class nearly a year now, and 3* OT Alessandro Lorenzetti, who is one of the big time sleepers of this year as a Quebecois prospect who only recently came to the US and has been somewhat outside the scouting mainstream. Michigan is looking to add another name to this group, even though they're still planning a smaller 2022 OL class before going all-in on 2023. 

DEFENSE

  • Defensive tackle: Michigan has two names here, 3* Mason Graham, a late riser who Michigan flipped from Boise State a few months back, and then mammoth 3* Kenneth Grant from Indiana, who fits the size that Macdonald looks for on the DL. Michigan is looking to add another name to this list, especially because Graham recently took an unofficial visit to USC ($), one of several west coast Michigan targets who the Wolverines are going to have to work harder to keep secure/win over now that Lincoln Riley has shaken up everything. 
  • Defensive End/EDGE: This position has definitely seen some shakeup over the course of the cycle. Still in the class are 3* Micah Pollard, nephew of Braylon Edwards and Marcus' son, 3.5* Kevonte Henry, who has a lot of Uche in him, and then recent add/late rising 3* Ethan Burke. Michigan likes all three of their commits a lot, especially Burke, who they moved quickly to snap up a few weeks back. If they can keep all three in the class, this is done. That's less certain than other positions, but we'll come back to that later. 
  • Linebacker: The Wolverines picked up a big commitment recently in 4* Jimmy Rolder, who brings more of a known quantity to two flier-ish players they already had in the class in raw 3* Aaron Alexander and 3* Deuce Spurlock, who Michigan hopes to grow into a B1G caliber player. This group is probably done. 
  • Defensive back: I'm merging CB and S into one DB category because it's often tough to tell which guys will play which positions. This is going to be a very big class and if it finishes strong, it should be the centerpiece of the 2022 class (feels nice to say that about DBs!). 5* CB Will Johnson has long been the headliner of the entire '22 class, and after Michigan got their NIL stuff in order to ward off 'Bama ($), Johnson is locked in. Michigan also picked up the commitment of 4* S Zeke Berry recently, while also still having 3.5* CB Myles Pollard, 4* CB Kody Jones, and 3* S Damani Dent in the class. Keeping Jones in the class could come down to the wire, as Tennessee continues to make a strong push and every additional good DB recruit added to the class makes it more likely that someone like Jones drops out and goes to a school where he can be the focal point of that year's DB class. Despite having five commits here, Michigan is still moving hard to add another piece. 

[AFTER THE JUMP: The targets still out there]

 

Amorion Walker is a guy Michigan wants to flip in the next week [Barron]

Who are the remaining targets?

As is often the case, the names still on the board here at the end of the cycle are mostly all big time recruits. Perhaps the most likely for Michigan to land is 4.5* S Keon Sabb. Throughout the summer and early fall, Sabb was considered a long shot after picking mighty Clemson in June. To get to this point, nearly everything had to break Michigan's way and well, it has. On Michigan's end, the program went from an apparent sinking ship to 12-1 B1G champions who have entered the exclusive club of schools to have qualified for the CFP. On Clemson's end, the Tigers went from the gold standard of college football to a disappointing 9-3 participant in the Cheez-It Bowl (someone is telling me that this is not America's most prestigious bowl game). Oh, and the guy recruiting Sabb, lauded Clemson DC Brent Venables, just bolted to become Oklahoma's new head coach. Sabb's reaction to the news yesterday was .... intriguing: 

And then not long after that....

Michigan picked up a pair of crystal balls on 24/7, as well as the equivalent from insiders on On3, after winning The Game, and that sentiment should only heighten now that Venables is officially gone and the decommitment has officially happened. Ron Bellamy continues to be hard on the trail after Sabb, as this thing is really down to the wire. Sabb is going to make a final commitment decision on or before ESD, which is now just 8 days away, as he plans to early enroll at the school of his choosing. All the momentum is trending to Ann Arbor, but now that the decommitment has happened, any number of schools could jump into the fray. If Michigan could nail down Sabb AND keep Kody Jones in the class, this would be a six-man DB class for the ages (and a stark departure from the rather poor DB recruiting of the late Zordich era). We shall see. 

Speaking of DBs, 5* CB Domani Jackson -> Michigan is not happening. The Wolverines were left off of his top two announcement (which was USC and Alabama) and there just isn't really any buzz here. Beating Alabama for a guy they seriously want is very difficult due to their advanced NIL operation and the fact that they're, you know, Alabama, and that's not to mention the Lincoln Riley factor, which has gotten serious juice back into the USC program. Beating a healthy USC program for any SoCal blue chip is very difficult. The ties to Jackson were there, yes, but the factors just didn't quite align for Michigan to have success and we as a fanbase need to collectively move on. 

Riley has also caused complications with 5* OT Josh Conerly Jr., who Michigan once felt very good about but now will have to fight tooth and nail for. Conerly visited Michigan back in September during the Washington game, but again the terrain has moved against the Wolverines. Conerly is a west coast kid and has been attracted to USC now that Riley is there, not to mention his home state school of Washington, who has their own new head coach, which brings with it recruiting momentum ($). Oregon was in the mix too, but it's reasonable to think they may fall away with Cristobal leaving. Most of the insiders indicate it's probably Michigan vs. USC for Conerly's services, and the big man isn't planning to commit until formal NSD in February, so buckle in. Michigan is by no means out of it, but it's going to be long and strenuous, as opposed to what had seemed like a relatively solid state previously. 

The recruitment of 4* DT Deone Walker has been rather odd. Michigan once seemed like an easy winner for Walker, being a Cass Tech product who they wanted, but Kentucky has since surged up the board, while Walker has cooled on the Wolverines for reasons that are not totally clear. Some insiders have indicated that the decommitment of Mario Eugenio played a role, while Kentucky's strong NIL game + the allure of playing in the $EC is probably a factor. Walker plans to commit on ESD and things seem shaky, but he is visiting this week, so we'll see if Harbaugh and his staff can make a significant dent

In better news, 3* WR Amorion Walker is the second name who Michigan wants to add to its WR class and he has seemed like a favorable flip from Notre Dame to the Wolverines for awhile now. If it is going to happen, it will happen before ESD, and Michigan still seems favored here according to sources ($)

The longer shots are a list of the following, including 5* OT Kiyuanta Goodwin, 4* WR Darrius Clemmons, 3.5* WR Kaleb Webb, and 4* RB Justin Williams. Michigan is poking around and making an effort on those players but none seem to be noteworthy chances currently. Perhaps more likely are less high profile options who could be thrown into the class later, including 3* QB Bryce Archie, 3* ATH (WR/DB) Koen Entringer, and 3* DT Lemar Law

 

[Barron]

The upshot and thoughts about the class 

I think the realistic best case right now is to add Sabb and Amorion Walker, and then perhaps Bryce Archie as a second QB. Keeping Kody Jones and Kevonte Henry is also a best case hope, the former being in doubt because of the "too many DBs" thing and the latter due to the loss of Courtney Morgan, who was central in his recruitment ($). It won't be easy, but there's a shot the staff could do it all. Mason Graham, who I mentioned earlier is waffling, seems to be more secure after Michigan did an in-home visit yesterday and was responded to with this tweet from Graham. If you managed to keep all three, it would be a pretty good class, but not a home run. Probably in the 10-15 range, where it currently sits. The class will be a little light at OL, but the staff is planning a big OL class for 2023 and they seem to be very high on a number of the players they already have at that position.  

The fact of the matter is that the time frame where Michigan will see this spectacular season really pay off is in 2023 and 2024. It's important to remember that most of the recruiting for the 2022 class took place from late 2020 to the present, a point when a lot of things that are antithetical to good recruiting were true at Michigan. Those things were 1.) a seemingly lame duck head coach, 2.) a coaching staff that was entirely new and had no relationships with recruits, and 3.) a program that seemed like a sinking ship with little discernible on-field success in recent years that couldn't credibly sell itself as a CFP contender anymore. The fact they recruited as well as they did up until a month ago is a testament to the strength of this staff. Those three issues have now all been rectified by this dream season, but it's really late in the cycle to have that rub off onto recruits. 2023 and 2024 are two classes where the meat of recruiting are just getting started and this coaching staff can really get rolling. I believe pretty firmly that those two classes will be excellent. 

Still just looking at 2022, if it finishes the way we think it might, it's nothing to be ashamed about. If you can nail down Sabb, that's a fabulous group of DBs, no matter what happens with Kody Jones. Considering Michigan struggled mightily in the late Zordich years to get quality, athletic DB recruits, bringing in five or six, including a 5* and a few 4* types, is huge. Michigan's arch-rival for conference titles is running a modern NFL spread passing attack with elite athletes at WR, probably a good thing to do your best to match them at the defense's equivalent position! That's what this class would offer at bare minimum. Plus, I've gotten to the point where I trust this staff's scouting abilities when they take 3*/3.5* developmental types after watching David Ojabo, Luke Schoonmaker, DJ Turner II, Hassan Haskins, Ronnie Bell, etc. Their "lotsa fliers" 2018 class was arguably a more productive class at Michigan than their top five 2017 class. The Harbaugh staff can scout guys and we ought to trust the dudes who just went 12-1 and won the conference. 

 

2023?

Before I sign off I do want to mention 2023, because we'll probably see more recruits trickle in there in the coming weeks. Two big names to watch are 4* LB Raylen Wilson and 3.5* IOL Dylan Senda. Wilson in particular is big because he is committing tomorrow(!) and Michigan seems to have the inside edge on Georgia, who is the main competitor. Defeating a recruiting powerhouse like the Dawgs for a composite top 100 athletic LB from the south would be a pretty huge recruiting win and would show that Michigan means business for this 2023 class. Senda is an in-stater who Michigan is also favored for and will be committing on December 20, and could be the beginning of a very strong OL class that Sherrone Moore will look to piece together. 

Beyond those two, a few names to throw out there before we construct a full 2023 recruiting board are 5* QB Dante Moore, who is from Detroit, as well as in-state 4* IOL Amir Herring, 3.5* TE Khamari Anderson (Raheem's brother), in-state 4* DL Cole Dellinger, and 3.5* ATH Jyaire Hill. All of these players are believed to either lean towards Michigan or be very interested in the Wolverines, even at this early stage. The list of targets for Michigan will be very wide and deep with the recruiting clout they have garnered this season, but these are some early names to keep an eye on. 

Comments

samuofm

December 7th, 2021 at 1:08 PM ^

We have a bigger and richer alumni base than basically anyone. The idea that southern schools are beating us with NIL is absolutely insane to me. 

Somebody in the athletic department needs to start learning how to use NFTs and DAOs to crowd raise money for these athletes. It's infuriating that we're behind here. 

bronxblue

December 7th, 2021 at 1:30 PM ^

See, I read all the NIL stuff when it comes to Kentucky and the like as a euphemisms for bagmen, and in that respect I expect a lot of mid-tier SEC teams to have a lot of experience with that.  And sometimes you just lose guys to other teams; Walker's entire recruitment has felt like one where neither side can get on the same page and at some point that tells you something.  

Alabama absolutely should have a gangbusters NIL platform - they're the defending champs and  the most dominant program in recent history.  Lots of people unaffiliated to Alabama buy 'Bama gear and consume 'Bama-attached products and content.  Same with other big-name programs like OSU, Clemson, ND, UM, etc.  I've seen little evidence that UM is losing guys to other programs because of NIL, and if it sways players it's likely at the fringes.  

As Alex noted, recruiting is a lagging indicator of the stability and success of your program, and so 18 months ago UM being in a bad place is way more of a factor to kids than what's happened the past 2 months.  It's a largely new staff trying to make connections/reconnect with players, and it's going to take time.  They will likely close well this year because of recent success and maybe they get a flip or two, but it's going to be a good class with a potential to have some sleepers.  There's nothing deeper than that.

JHumich

December 7th, 2021 at 3:02 PM ^

I think Michigan does the NIL stuff more under the radar as far as the public eye is concerned. But from a couple comments from parents last year, the recruits and parents get a full presentation. One even said that NIL implementation was the MOST impressive things about their child's visit. I don't think we're actually behind like people say, and the only ones who really need to know details are the recruits and their parents. 

JonnyHintz

December 7th, 2021 at 3:39 PM ^

Exactly. Some people complain that we aren’t keeping up in our NIL endeavors but have no idea what we are (or aren’t) doing. The reality is that the school simply isn’t being public about it, which is fine. The players being recruited are well aware what is being offered from the NIL package. And that’s all that really matters.

4th phase

December 7th, 2021 at 4:56 PM ^

Yeah I certainly wasn't aware that Blake Corum and JJ McCarthy had NIL deals until they started donating. I only knew that Cade had one from an obscure crypto company. So yeah some players are taking advantage of Michigan's NIL even if the fans don't always know the details. 

mgobaran

December 7th, 2021 at 1:41 PM ^

SEC has been running NIL programs (bagmen) for decades unchecked. It was an easy transition for them. Michigan is incorporating it cautiously, which is probably the wrong move. But absolutely necessary when folks at the Freep are just champing at the bit to bust them for practicing an extra hour a week.

MightyMatt13

December 7th, 2021 at 9:51 PM ^

The low key approach is interesting. As others have said I was surprised to see Corum and JJ's NIL donations just to know that someone's getting some good NIL money!

Really our only taste had been Hunter's complaints about the University being restrictive about the brand and what sounded like unnecessary limitations for Villari and Bowman for their podcast that died pretty quickly... I think that's why I assumed things were behind at UM, but it's relieving to hear more examples of that not being the case.

What's the value in keeping that stuff quiet? Articles about XYZ signing a deal on NIL seems like a self fulfilling prophecy. Don't want to spoil the PowerPoint presentation? ?

McGreenB

December 7th, 2021 at 1:12 PM ^

You'd think all of the coaching turmoil would equal a dream recruiting scenario for the '22 class. I wish we could pick off some more of those Oklahoma/ND/SC players.

I hope that winning with maxed out 3* vs. the inevitable OSU 5* can at least be a somewhat consistent feat. 

bronxblue

December 7th, 2021 at 1:36 PM ^

What kind of hurt, at least with USC, is that they traded up from Helton to Riley, which instantly gives them juice in recruiting they wouldn't have had with a more pedestrian coach.  UM doesn't recruit a ton of guys that OU has gone after, so probably not a ton of help there.  Freeman sticking at ND likely means they'll keep a lot of their guys because, frankly, I can't imagine people sign up to play for Brian Kelly personally.  I guess you might see a guy shake loose but going forward ND might take a step back (Kelly is an asshole but he's good at his job and got ND to a level they hadn't enjoyed for decades) under Freeman, which will help.

 

HollywoodHokeHogan

December 8th, 2021 at 11:16 PM ^

I think the effect for ND might be delayed for two seasons.  As you said, Kelly was pretty damn successful, and Freeman has zero experience.  He could easily struggle next season, but even then good feelings and optimism for the guy that stayed will carry over a bit.  But if he's like got like 16 or 17 wins after two seasons, then the water gets rougher, especially if Kelly is like 18-6 at LSU by then.   

OldSchoolWolverine

December 7th, 2021 at 1:16 PM ^

Graham is by far the recruit I want the most and will be bummed if he goes to USC.

The hardest position by far in this defense is LB and losing Ross is gonna sting.  Colson is a stud but Hill-Green while has promise blows so many plays...  this is danger spot but I have faith in MacDonald, like I said when I said it was a star hire.

I think Burke is gonna be a gem for us... Watch his tape. He's 6-7 and knows how to high point the pass on the edge and will block a ton and cause havoc.  I count him as the sleeper of the class. 

mgobaran

December 7th, 2021 at 1:52 PM ^

Are we for sure losing Ross? He has a bonus year still from 2020 still (at least according to mgoblog's depth chart by class)

Michael Barrett is still around. Kalil Mullings was touted as the next Bush/McGrone and still has time to make good on that promise. Green-Hill is young, so mistakes are going to happen. And McLaurin and Hood are true freshman who still have time to make an impact. I think we'll get better here next year. 

michengin87

December 7th, 2021 at 2:44 PM ^

I would absolutely love to have Josh Ross back, but here were his words last fall, "Coming back was about proving myself and proving ourself as a team," said Ross, who played in all six games last fall and lead the team in tackles (53). "Getting better and just building our football knowledge and building everything. Because last year wasn't good enough." - Ann Arbor News

He's accomplished what he set out to do.  I don't think his draft stock improves further with another year, so I'd be very surprised to see a return.

On the other hand, Ojabo.  Although Kiper recently projected him at #10 overall, he still has even more potential and could showcase that next year as the premier sack guy (like Aidan did) to move into a top 5 draft spot possibly.  However, if the guidance that he gets from UM is that he would actually be picked in the top 10, I cannot imagine him coming back.

Kolesar99

December 7th, 2021 at 1:28 PM ^

Michigan has everything to offer recruits, except (until this season) a dominant football team.  This recruiting class, if it stays essentially as is, has to be classified as a disappointment.  I have to assume they will try to attract some significant talent via the transfer portal.  

1VaBlue1

December 7th, 2021 at 1:33 PM ^

Thanks for this bit of honey...  Glad to see the class actually looks better than I thought it might - especially if Sabb and Walker commit, and Jones and Graham stay.

I think it'll take Riley a couple of years to get going at USC, but Venables could pick right up where Riley left with Oklahoma.  Kelly has some work to do, and I think it's going to look ugly next year as he begins some actual 'discipline' with that program.  I have a feeling some of those guys are going to opt out of Kelly's personal style and revolt some at the pace and intensity of practices that are required of the true 'top' teams.  Give him a year, or two, and he'll lockdown LA - so if we're looking there, we need to do it now!

JonnyHintz

December 7th, 2021 at 3:54 PM ^

Not just a guy with no head coaching experience, but one year at Purdue and one year at ND are his only P5 coordinator experiences.

I like Marcus Freeman, and he’s shown to be a great recruiter and DC. My fear was OSU would hire him as DC this off-season. But he’s far from a home run hire and ND is a job that really takes a toll on you.

gm1234

December 7th, 2021 at 3:58 PM ^

Why would Riley, who has proven results as a HC at a big time program in an area with tons of talent, take a couple years to get going with recruiting? While Venables, with no HC results to go on, pick up where Riley left off?

Seems like Riley has had no problem getting going at USC with getting recruits to immediately flip. He’s shown he can coach and will have tons of talent at his disposal…Not saying they’ll be 12-0 next year, but would bet they have a better record than OU does

JonnyHintz

December 7th, 2021 at 5:12 PM ^

I mean the only guys he’s gotten to immediately flip are guys who were committed to him already at OU.

USC is not a well coached team right now and it’s likely to take Riley some time to get the right guys in there and build a culture. 
 

Where Venables is one of the best DCs in the country, a former OU coach so he’s familiar with the school and recruiting there, and he’s taking over a program that’s already built to win. 
 

It’s not impossible for Riley to have a quick turnaround, but Venables is certainly more positioned for short-term success. 

gm1234

December 7th, 2021 at 7:05 PM ^

I’d agree USC isn’t a well coached team right now, but they have talent on the roster. And aren’t a bunch of his flips highly touted guys from Cali already, so he knows the recruiting area? Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying USC is a title contender next year, but they’ll be in the CFP hunt I think. Riley is a good offensive mind, in a talent rich area, has pulled in top recruits before, and in another conference that doesn’t play a lot of defense. Venables is in the opposite situation, defensive mind in an offensive league, don’t know who will be his offensive staff or what system they’ll run (winning 10-7 doesn’t happen much anymore), or how well he’ll recruit (not sure how many of those big time players he helped get to Clemson?)…To me at least, looks like Riley may have a little more going for him? 

Tom Pickle

December 7th, 2021 at 1:39 PM ^

I understand the confluence of events that lead to this being the case, but it is just sucks that this team could legitimately win a national title and end up with like the 12th best class in the country.

Fan from TTDS

December 7th, 2021 at 6:49 PM ^

Seven years ago how many points did you think Alabama would score on Ohio State?  OSU had a third string QB who started in one game before that semifinal game.  Alabama had a whole 3 points late in the Iron bowl and needed 4 OT's to beat a 6-5 Auburn team.  Don't be surprised if Cincy pulls off the upset.

dragonchild

December 7th, 2021 at 1:56 PM ^

Seth still has 1.5 games to UFR

Wait. . . what?

OSU defense (Offense vs.):  done
OSU offense (Defense vs.):  0.5 game
Iowa defense (Offense vs.):  0.5 game
Iowa offense (Defense vs.):  404 Not Found

He has 1.0 games left to UFR.