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Does he still draw up plays? - "I'm always. I'm obsessive... I just, I like that part of the game. I like the tactics. I like to scribble." Denard's talent poses some interesting options in terms of new plays. The defensive-oriented head coaches tend to give the OC a little bit more freedom. "Brady know what we're doing, understands what we're doing, and monitors everything."

"There's so many frustrations out there" because guys aren't consistently performing perfectly yet. "It's just the way it is this time of year."

On Denard - "He's playing good. He's kind of a kick to coach. He's upbeat all the time." He's been receptive to every bit of coaching since he's been here. Timing is getting better in the passing game every day. The guys worked in the offseason, but there was room for improvement. "It's not there yet, but it's showing some promise."

On the tailbacks - "We still don't have a starting running back, but we've got a nice field to work from. Getting a little closer to that, I think." They'll cut down the running back competition when they start game-planning, instead of just going through camp.

There are nice inside and outside runners. "Michael Shaw, Stephen Hopkins, Fitzgerald Toussaint, Michael Cox, all of them have just shown some great flashes. ... Cox and Shaw are very similar in that they've got some home run threat to them. Toussaint's a tough kid that makes no concessions to the defense. He to has a nice burst and he can go. Vincent's as diverse as any of them." Thomas Rawls is a tough inside guy, like Hopkins, and Justice Hayes has good cuts.

3rd-down role - Vincent Smith - "He's certainly a candidate." Not big, but can block and pass. He's in the running for starting RB too, because he's so dynamic. Need an RB who can test out a nickel back in passing situations. "You've gotta run tight routes and catch it when they throw it to you."

If it takes multiple games to find a starting running back, so be it. "This is a collaborative effort." Hoke, Borges, Jackson - everybody will have a say in it.

The biggest issue with young RBs is protecting the QB. They can see running lanes pretty well, but there are so many things defenses will do that figuring out who to block is the hardest part.

"We're moving some folks around" to figure out some of the fullback race - they're keeping it under wraps for now who is moving and from where. John McColgan is the primary guy.

On Wideouts - "We've got some guys that are playing well out there. Some of the guys played some last year. Jeremy Gallon, Kelvin Grady has done a nice job. Jerald Robinson who didn't play much, but he seems like he's got a future here. Drew Dileo, all those guys have worked their buns off." Receivers need to be able to play special teams to make travel squads. They've gotta block on the outside, as well.

"You always like to have a few rangy guys" at wideout, but any size is OK. "We would take a smaller, faster guy" at previous stops, because you get 6 points for a TD no matter how tall you are.

On the OL competition - With 5 top guys, "it kinda is what it is right now." There's a chemistry that's important to line play. You'd like to find five guys who can get used to each other. Michael Schofield will be a contributor, it's just a question of when.

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Guys are demonstrating the want-to. They understand that they need to get to the level of Michigan expectations. "You never know when it's going to happen. The guys are consciously trying to work to get there. Whether that work is good enough right now? I can't say yes to that." Need to see more guys getting over "the hump."

Playing with great technique, playing with tremendous effort, and being very physical are the three most important factors. "We do those three things, now we're playing Michigan defense."

On Tackling - "It's always something that we have to work on." Had a couple disappointing reps on the goal-line drills today. Were just one wrapped tackle away from making some stops. Safeties, corners, etc. understanding to not give up big plays.

On playing rotations - the coaches need to determine throughout camp how many consecutive plays guys can play at their top level. "When they're tired, somebody else will come in for you. Get your rest, you're not demoted." Specifically along D-line. At Florida, had 6 guys who were worthy of being called starters, even though 4 played at a time. Helped to have a good rotation.

Defensive linemen need to be consistent. "We have to be a defense that you play with great technique on every player. Unless you are a dominant athlete."

On Mike Martin - "I think he's working hard, and I say this about every player on our team: they can work harder and they will work harder." Won't say anybody has "elite talent" until they prove it in games. "I don't know if we have any, and I don't know if we don't have any."

On Will Heininger - "I think he's much stronger. He's shown some signs of being very physical and strong at times." Like everybody else, he needs to develop consistency.

On Nathan Brink - "Played like a Michigan football player... This guy here has come out every day as tough as he can." He hit his weight goal of 260 by coming into camp at 264. "In the spring, it was mentioned a number of times, because his toughness showed up. He was only 250 at the time."

On walk-ons like Nathan Brink and Tony Anderson - "Everybody's a scholarship football player to us. The best 11, the best 12, the best 13, best 17 - those guys are gonna play." Doesn't matter if a guy is a walk-on or a 5th-year guy, they'll play.

On WLB -  "That position - and again I hate to ever say anything positive - I love how those guys are playing at times. At times they're playing with such energy, such speed, and such explosiveness." That's a battle.

On Cam Gordon - "He's working really really hard at the physical part of playing SAM backer." He's working hard to meet the standards.

On the secondary - Safeties play a number of coverages, but priority is always to keep the ball inside and in front of him. Jordan Kovacs comes to work every day ready to do things the right way. All of the other safeties show flashes, but lose concentration at times. They need to improve their consistency.

Courtney Avery comes out trying to get better every day. "When he makes a mistake, it bothers him, and he tries even harder next time." Guys are learning that they need to have great technique.

Position changes - "Not drastic. We'll look at an outside linebacker who's kinda a hybrid to the rush backer, and we might switch those guys at times." There are no big, permanent changes.

Freshman contributors. "We've got some pretty good freshmen. Some of them have caught your eye," but they also make big freshman mistakes. They need to show consistent great talent to get on the field as soon as possible. "Frank Clark is a very talented... freshman." like all freshmen, he needs to do it right on every play.

Practice Notes

Martavious Odoms still has a cast on his left arm, although it's coming off in the next week.

Vincent Smith, Terrence Robinson, Justice Hayes, Kelvin Grady, Thomas Rawls, Je'Ron Stokes, and Jerald Robinson were the players taking reps catching "kicks" from the jug machine. Fred Jackson made them all run through a couple different variations on the drill (turning around as the ball is launched, running five yards then turning around, etc.)

The defensive backs were working on proper alignments with coach Curt Mallory. He was running a group of DBs through their responsibilities as far as alignment, adjusting that alignment to motion and different offensive formations, and then their responsibilities depending on what certain offensive players would do. It was a very detail-oriented instruction.

During stretching (woo stretching!), one of the strength coaches reminded the players that they needed to take it upon themselves to have a good practice, saying "You don't have a great day by accident, you have it on purpose."

Also during stretching time, Brady Hoke was making his rounds and talking to a few players. He stopped and gave Stephen Hopkins a pat on the helmet and had a short conversation with him.

During the few plays of offense v. defense, it seemed there was a mixed group of starters and backups on the defensive side of the ball. Mike Martin and Ryan Van Bergen were flanked by Jibreel Black and Nathan Brink on the DL (Will Heininger rotated in as well), with Jake Ryan and Brandin Hawthorne in at LB with Kenny Demens. Jordan Kovacs and Thomas Gordon (deep - Carvin Johnson also rotated in) were the safeties, with Troy Woolfolk and Courtney Avery at corner. A few expected starters rotated in with the other group, including Craig Roh.

Offensively, it seemed the units were a little more in line with expectations of a first and second unit. Fitz Toussaint and Michael Shaw got the first-team reps at RB. There were a couple plays of I-form, some shotgun, and a mix between run and pass as well.

On the "second" units, Michael Cox, Jeremy Jackson, and Tony Anderson were among the notable players. Shaw got a couple reps with Gardner's offense as well.

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August 16th, 2011 at 10:04 PM | Stokes? (Score:1)
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Anybody else a little disappointed Je'ron Stokes hasn't been mentioned a whole lot?  With Stonum redshirting, I thought this may have been his time to step up and live-up to that recruiting up he had.  We could use some talented wide-outs.

Also, can anyone confirm the rumblings that Beyer is playing the SAM position?  Thought he was WDE all the way.

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August 17th, 2011 at 12:22 AM | Amen on the Stokes comment.  (Score:1)
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Amen on the Stokes comment.  I've been wondering about his playing status for a while, and I can't shake the feeling that he's been railroaded or not given a chance to show his stuff.  The seemingly inordinate number of highly-ranked recruits who fizzled out or never played during the RR era made me wonder if Stokes's lack of playing time was a coaching issue, but the fact his name hasn't been mentioned much so far with Hoke at the helm makes me second guess that assumption.  (PREEMPTION: Nobody loved them some RR like I loved me some RR.)

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August 17th, 2011 at 1:51 AM | I love RR (Score:1 Flamebait)
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http://www.hulu.com/watch/37730/saturday-night-live-vp-debate-open-palin...

"There was a time I could have been mistaken for Burt Reynolds. I had a moustache and so did he. But he was the number one star in the world, so there wasn't really much confusion."

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August 17th, 2011 at 7:41 AM | I'm with you... (Score:1)
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Stokes was one of the players I was most excited about in his class, but hasn't been heard of much to this point. I hope he can get in the mix and live up to the hype soon, we need the help at WR.

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August 16th, 2011 at 9:58 PM | Was Tony Anderson on the (Score:2)
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Was Tony Anderson on the second offensive unit? Or was that just a list of several standout players, on any unit? 

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August 16th, 2011 at 10:09 PM | Jackson (Score:2)
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I imagine the 17 on the second offensive unit must have been Jeremy Jackson.

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August 16th, 2011 at 10:10 PM | Dileo (Score:4 Normal)
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Surprised to hear that Dileo wasn't in the group returning kicks.  I would have pegged him as the starter at punt returner.

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August 17th, 2011 at 8:03 AM | It may be because he is going (Score:1)
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It may be because he is going to be rotating in at wide receiver and the returns will fall to someone else.

 

Semper Fidelis

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August 16th, 2011 at 10:11 PM | Be careful with that scissor (Score:1)
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Be careful with that scissor lift boys.

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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August 16th, 2011 at 11:18 PM | sad, it's the same thought I had (Score:1)
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and those things always creep me out, having seen an accident once at a construction site involving a fall from one.

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August 16th, 2011 at 11:28 PM | I wouldn't get on one of those things. (Score:1)
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There are easier ways to toy with death.  Like driving on the freeway.

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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August 17th, 2011 at 9:34 AM | Now imagine doing it in November (Score:2)
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In freezing rain and high winds. And oh, yeah, you can't wear gloves because you have to work a frickin' camera.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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August 16th, 2011 at 10:23 PM | Frank Clark seems to be (Score:2 Normal)
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Frank Clark seems to be getting the most props of the freshmen from the players and coaches.  Looks like he has a chance of being a real sleeper.  Most on this board gave him "meh" status, seemingly recruited just to get our feet back into Glenville's door.  I don't think there's a chance in hell he'll redshirt.  At a minimum he'll be a special teams beast this year.  Go Frank Go Blue!!

"Those who stay will be champions"

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August 16th, 2011 at 10:23 PM | (Score:2 Normal)
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not sure how i feel about our o coord referencing the receivers working their "buns" off. i feel weird now

They do the talkin...I do the walkin.

-Charles Woodson

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August 16th, 2011 at 10:51 PM | Gay joke ha. Count it. (Score:2 Normal)
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Gay joke ha. Count it.

 

“I’m a big Fear Factor Fan. I'm a big fan of anything Joe Rogan does actually."

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August 17th, 2011 at 9:35 AM | It's ok (Score:2)
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As long at they're not talking about "touching kids" at the same time.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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August 16th, 2011 at 10:25 PM | Is there a consensus that (Score:1)
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Is there a consensus that Smith is our 3rd down back against Western? I was really hoping Hayes would be that guy, as I have very high hopes for him.

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August 16th, 2011 at 10:41 PM | Patience (Score:3 Normal)
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young padawan. Just because he doesn't start (as 3rd down back, if that's considered starting) the first game as a true freshman doesn't mean he wont wind up contributing.

Football is both an identity and a terminal illness. A rhythm and a chaos and an opiate for the mind all at once.

     -Johnny Danbury (umichedme.blogspot.com)

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August 16th, 2011 at 11:12 PM | Take it easy weirdo. Its fine (Score:-1 Flamebait)
upnorthinblue
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Take it easy weirdo. Its fine correct but doing so with a star wars refference before it? Ugh

 

“I’m a big Fear Factor Fan. I'm a big fan of anything Joe Rogan does actually."

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August 16th, 2011 at 10:44 PM | WLBs (Score:1)
Marley Nowell
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Glad to hear that Mattison praised them even though he hates doing that.  Now if we can just find someone to play Free Safety

"Relax you panic monger" -Megatron

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August 16th, 2011 at 11:24 PM | We did.  Unfortunately for (Score:2)
Elmer
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We did.  Unfortunately for this season, it's Jarrod Wilson

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August 16th, 2011 at 11:22 PM | Kellen Jones (Score:-1 Offtopic)
redfirelx
Joined: 11/07/2009
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For those wondering about Kellen Jones... 

Off to the land of Stoops... 

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/6868298/kellen-jones-tran...

Feel free to make that an MGoBoard post since I don't have posting privileges...

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August 16th, 2011 at 11:30 PM | Be thankful my friend that no (Score:2 Insightful)
FreddieMercuryHayes
Joined: 12/29/2010
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Be thankful my friend that no one will see this comment after a few -1 moderate clicks.

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August 17th, 2011 at 1:08 AM | So did we ever get Harbaugh? (Score:3 Normal)
sheepdog
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So did we ever get Harbaugh?

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August 17th, 2011 at 11:20 AM | Yeah (Score:2 Normal)
Nick
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I heard forcier transferred too

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August 16th, 2011 at 11:22 PM | Mattison doesn't seem that (Score:2)
Magnum P.I.
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Mattison doesn't seem that geeked about Mike Martin. I get that he's trying to motivate him to get better, but I wish he'd acknowledge his manbeastiality once in a while. 

"There was a time I could have been mistaken for Burt Reynolds. I had a moustache and so did he. But he was the number one star in the world, so there wasn't really much confusion."

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August 16th, 2011 at 11:34 PM | Interesting (Score:1)
BlueDragon
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Maybe it's reverse psychology?

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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August 16th, 2011 at 11:50 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
GoBlueMAGNUS
Joined: 08/17/2009
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I don't think Mike cares what he says about him during some press conference. It's the games that count.

Despite what the other guy calls himself, my name actually is Magnus.

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August 17th, 2011 at 12:25 AM | Just saying, in those Picassa (Score:1)
KBLOW
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Just saying, in those Picassa pics Roh looks huge. 

There are no corners in space.

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August 17th, 2011 at 1:34 AM | Huge (Score:1)
BlueFordSoftTop
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At least the eyebrows look huge.  Intimidating eyebrows.  Cultivated at training salon.  Yes.

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August 17th, 2011 at 1:08 AM | Reminder (Score:1)
ForeverGoBlue
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I am trying to remember, which game did Shaw go down in?  I remember him playing and playing well but it seems he got injured during the early part of the season. 

I don't talk the past. I create the future.

 

Goodbye everybody...Hello Heisman

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August 17th, 2011 at 7:47 AM | I am not positive... (Score:1)
Blue in Yarmouth
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I can see the injury occurring in my head, but can't remember who the opponent was. He played the Illinois game so it was after that. Maybe the MSU game? Not sure...

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August 17th, 2011 at 1:43 AM | NATHAN BRINK.  SPANISH 232 (Score:2)
The King In Yellow
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NATHAN BRINK.  SPANISH 232 SPRING SEMESTER WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oprah's Minge.

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August 17th, 2011 at 4:57 AM | Tim when you are gone who is (Score:2 Normal)
ken725
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Tim when you are gone who is going to take startled pictures of Borges?

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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August 17th, 2011 at 7:17 AM | why won't they tell me who (Score:2)
gordie bell
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why won't they tell me who the fullbacks are. I think either Morgan or Rawls are working out at FB. I am basing this on nothing but am 100 percent certain I could possibly be right

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August 17th, 2011 at 9:40 AM | Because (Score:2)
M-Wolverine
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"It would tip my hand a little bit."

http://detnews.com/article/20110817/SPORTS0201/108170341/Wolverines-migh...

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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August 17th, 2011 at 10:40 AM | I saw that while watching the (Score:2)
gordie bell
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I saw that while watching the Borges presser, I guess I will just have to wait. The fact they won't tell me has piqued my interest. I would be most interested if Morgan switched to fullback, since it has been speculated upon, and it seems to make sense with all the LB's we are bringing in next year.

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August 17th, 2011 at 10:45 AM | Denard (Score:5 Funny)
michgoblue
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Isn't it obvious that Denard is going to switch to FB, where we can take advantage of his size?  And people worried that the new offense wouldn't be as creative . . .

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August 17th, 2011 at 1:31 PM | So . . . (Score:2)
InterM
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. . . apparently Magnus signed up for another handle so he could spread even more of his Vincent Smith love?

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