January 4th, 2017 at 2:25 AM ^
My point is that saying we have the "highest scoring" offense is nothing more than a vanity metric padded by blowouts over bad teams.
We lost to Ohio State despite the fact that the defense only gave up 10 points in regulation - 7 of which came on a short field after an interception.
We put up 13 points against an Iowa team that surrendered 38 to Northwestern, 41 to Penn State and 35 to Purdue.
We did not have the "highest scoring" offense in the B1G in the games where it really counted.
January 4th, 2017 at 6:28 AM ^
Maybe we had the highest points against Rutgers, but others crushed them too. So you want to say games against bad teams don't count? I bet everyones point totals drop because good teams with better defenses stop good offenses more frequently. That's how it works.
Don't try the BS of saying we're the only team to have inflated stats against bad teams.
January 4th, 2017 at 8:05 AM ^
It shows real and very substantial progress. In recent years the offense struggled against lesser defenses regularly. Not this year.
It shows that the JH offense is really hard to defend.
The fact that it stalled against FSU and OSU just shows that the talent level on the offensive side of the ball is not elite yet.
But the fact they it was damn near unstoppable against all others (except Iowa and every team has a game every year where they just play poorly; see Clemson v. NC State) shows that the concepts, mix of plays, etc., is really good.
The problem with the offense was not with the concepts, play calling, etc. The problem is that there was solid talent at all/almost all positions, but no elite talent at even 1 single position.
[edit: o.k. on second thought Jake Butt was elite level talent at the TE position. Still, the general point remains.]
January 4th, 2017 at 3:05 AM ^
I entirely believe that this offense or a slightly improved version of it (once Harbaugh/Drevno get high ceiling prospects and coach their own recruits) could win the Big Ten or the CFB. Consider the fact that we were 5 points away from an undefeated season, and the Big Ten was the strongest it has been in the last decade.
January 4th, 2017 at 6:46 AM ^
but to tell the whole story, you also have to point out that we had a very good defense that gave our offense better than average field position most of the time, as well as more possessions per game, since opposing offenses weren't getting a lot of long, time-eating drives.
January 3rd, 2017 at 11:11 PM ^
He has a few things going for him:
1. He has a good track record
2. OL was in the worst shape of any position of the team when Harbaugh and Co. took over
3. OL is also one of the hardest position to play well early.
They need to have hit on the kids they recruited last year and are recutiing this year to get the offense to reach it's potential sooner than later but i'm opomistic the offense will be elite once depth builds on the OL. They are already getting elite talent at the skill positons.
January 3rd, 2017 at 11:50 PM ^
The OL is still in the worst shape of any position on the team and the OL is going to be even younger next season. So I see it, he has his track record and that's about it. The offense has definitely improved since Drevno and Harbaugh took over, but to the point where we feel like we have a top 3'ish OC?
Not my money, and good for Drevno, but I just feel like if you're going to be paying an assitant top 3 money, you should get your money's worth, and I just haven't seen anything that makes me feel like he's worth that.
January 4th, 2017 at 12:02 AM ^
I am not being argumentative by asking...
Who would be a better OC for Michigan at this point in time?
And the answer has to deal with the reality that the OC has to (1) run the kind of offense that Harbaugh is building, (2) get along with Harbaugh, and (3) fit within the structure of the current offensive coaching staff (so no OCs that duplicate other position groups already staffed).
January 4th, 2017 at 12:15 AM ^
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January 4th, 2017 at 10:16 AM ^
I honestly don't know. Just don't have the knowledge of who is out there as an OC that fits what Harbaugh wants to do. Maybe the raise and extension buys Michigan/Harbaugh peace of mind considering the precarious situation the OL and offense is in. Drevno was getting interest from smaller schools as a HC, so this buys them continuity at a time they can't afford any upheaval on offense/OL.
And hey, its not my money. Michigan has a shit ton of it, and can do whatever they like with their cash. Just feel weird that they are paying him as a top 3 OC when I don't know that many would list him as one of the top 10 OCs in CFB.
January 3rd, 2017 at 11:11 PM ^
the good news is it doesnt matter what you think..
January 3rd, 2017 at 11:55 PM ^
And it doesn't matter what you think. Yay internet!
January 4th, 2017 at 2:45 PM ^
i didn't give an opinion as if i knew what was going on with the inside workings of the team as if i was connected.
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January 3rd, 2017 at 11:04 PM ^
Several reasons:
- A raise means our coordinators make more than they would as head coaches outside of the P5, encouraging them to stay until a huge opportunity comes up
- Appearance of stability
- Encourages future assistant coaches to consider Michigan
- Potential buy out terms to discourage leaving early
Would you prefer a blood oath?
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January 4th, 2017 at 9:46 AM ^
Arranged marriages... the sons/daughters of the coaches get betrothed to each other and/or the sons/daughters of other UM staff/faculty. Alliances are formed and the resulting children from these marraiges go on to coach an even stronger team.
It'll work.
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SOURCE: #Michigan & OC Tim Drevno agree to a new 5-year deal. Will make $1 million annually: https://t.co/86R55Q1tpN
— Bruce Feldman (@BruceFeldmanCFB) January 4, 2017
January 3rd, 2017 at 10:57 PM ^
just a tad more than he would make as the HC at San Jose State
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January 4th, 2017 at 9:51 AM ^
Using the Alabama OC as an example doesn't really apply here - while their offense is successful it is debatable how much can be attributed to Kiffin. Adding in that he is an asshat with a primadona mentality, he was never going to stay long. Not that their new OC will be that much different, but whatever works...
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5 year extension for Drevno after a 5 year extension for Brown... I like it!
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January 3rd, 2017 at 11:35 PM ^
According to the FEI rankings, Michigan faced the following defenses:
OSU - 2nd
Wisky - 6th
Colorado - 7
UCF - 10
Penn St - 20
Iowa - 30
Indiana - 35
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So that does factor into the equation a bit.
January 3rd, 2017 at 11:48 PM ^
FSU DL ripped the OL apart, as they've done to pretty much every team this year. The coaches should still take responsibility for bad scheme to counter FSU's stunts/twists and letting the free man rip through unblocked. To their credit, the OL adjusted well in the 2nd half after a disgusting first half.
January 3rd, 2017 at 11:07 PM ^
Does anyone think he will stay for the full 5 years?
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January 4th, 2017 at 3:12 AM ^
Likely rhetorical, but important nonetheless:
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January 4th, 2017 at 1:36 AM ^
What would make one feel that the progression of Speight was awesome this year? I thought he plateaued midyear and regressed a bit with regards to his decision making, accuracy, footwork.