Video replay - an easy fix
Video review is much too dificult as it currently exists. I offer an easy fix.
Give each camera a time stamp while the video replay booth has the ability to look at multiple cameras feeds, with each feed time synched.
The ability to watch one view of the play (for instance: a sideline view that can see a knee hit the ground) while at the exact same time a camera 45 degrees away gets another angle (for example, seeing a ball knocked loose but not a knee)
This should be doable with current technology. The refs could, with current abilities, rock the play back and forth, while looking at both angles.
How is this not a thing? All modern sports should have this easily available for video review. Two angles, in view by the ref, at the exact same time.
This cannot be that difficult to do.
December 5th, 2016 at 2:22 AM ^
Apologies for replying to my own thread, but MGoTechs, this should be possible, right?
(I have zero experience in this area, but it seems like it can't be that difficult to accomlish)
December 5th, 2016 at 4:16 AM ^
We put men on the moon decades ago, I'm sure synced replays are achievable.
December 5th, 2016 at 5:39 AM ^
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December 5th, 2016 at 7:38 AM ^
Time stamping video is easy and has been available for quite some time. There are apps that allow you to time stamp phone video by using GPS. As long as the cameras are synched to the same time source, everything works.
In addition to time stamping, they should also put devices in footballs that allow for exact positioning of the football, i.e., did forward progress go far enough to be a first down and to coordinate ball position with an official's blowing of a whistle.
December 5th, 2016 at 8:19 AM ^
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December 5th, 2016 at 7:42 AM ^
Yes, the moon landing was faked, but it turned out they had to go to the moon anyway to shoot believable fake footage.
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December 5th, 2016 at 8:19 AM ^
On top of centralized replay, I think it would be awesome if the replay officials were not told what the call on the field was, therefore removing any remaining potential bias to uphold the call another official made.
I actually think rather than needing "indisputable" evidence to overturn a call, it should be 51% certainty. Why do we go with what 1 official saw in real time on the field as our default, when we can have a crew of officials who can look from a variety of angles in real time and slow motion? One of these scenarios seems more likely than the other to produce the most correct call consistently . . .
December 5th, 2016 at 8:54 AM ^
the officials making the replay call have no interest other than getting the call right.
So what I hear you saying is that a BigTen official offsite in an office is guaranteed not to have any agenda?
December 5th, 2016 at 1:35 PM ^
December 5th, 2016 at 3:30 AM ^
This is a great idea. And no can;t be too hard to do.
December 5th, 2016 at 3:34 AM ^
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December 5th, 2016 at 3:55 AM ^
fuck Delaney, too many stupid rules anymore and referees are crappier than ever.
One of the most egregious things done by officials is the spotting of the ball, I lose my mind during games at the ineptness with which this task is performed, unbelievable how bad they are at it.
Might sound like a small matter for many folks but we all know better than that.
December 5th, 2016 at 4:42 AM ^
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Good point about university presidents.
December 5th, 2016 at 6:21 AM ^
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December 5th, 2016 at 9:31 AM ^
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December 5th, 2016 at 7:12 AM ^
Nah, the Big Ten referees will just put their finger over the time stamp.
December 5th, 2016 at 7:19 AM ^
is some of that CSI glass table see everything magic computer crap. Let's stop asking the officials to review and hire CSI for a Saturday. They seem to solve crimes faster than official reviews anyway
December 5th, 2016 at 7:41 AM ^
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December 5th, 2016 at 7:31 AM ^
I remember seeing this done in a game a few years ago - they have the capability. I wonder why you don't see it more.
December 5th, 2016 at 9:43 AM ^
I think it was a game @ Hawaii, IIRC.
December 5th, 2016 at 7:48 AM ^
1) The networks have all these cameras whizzing around on cables giving us worthless panning action views, why don't they park one right over the line to gain?
2) Why don't we have a transparent ref process where refs recuse themselves for games with their favorite or state school so people can see there is a reasonable expectation for fairness?
December 5th, 2016 at 7:57 AM ^
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December 5th, 2016 at 10:20 AM ^
But where in the ball? You would need a lot of them.
December 5th, 2016 at 8:03 AM ^
Video timestamping is done by every TV camera in the business. The production truck has it all... I know the B1G replay is a bunch of Tivo boxes (3, I think) hooked to the TV feed. So the replay officials are dependant on the TV feed giving them a decent replay in the time they need it.
There was talk over the summer about how the B1G was setting up a central replay office to help improve replay review for both quality and time. I thought it was to be active for this season, but I don't think it's actually in place, yet. Too bad, the OSU game could have used it... A central facility should get the raw, timestamped, all-camera feed from each game. (Timestamps would be synced to a network switch, so all cameras show the exact time.) The B1G has plenty of money to get this in place, and needs to do so soon.
December 5th, 2016 at 8:27 AM ^
Delany - "I would like to point out that the the tape has not been faked or altered in any way. In fact they have time coding, which is very hard to fake." Harbaugh - Would you please explain "time coding"? Delany - "Well, uh, just because I don't know what it is doesn't mean I'm lying."
December 5th, 2016 at 8:31 AM ^
What frustrates me is how much technology we have and how little football uses it to enhance the quality of calls. First off, the replay cameras often become VERY fuzzy when slowed down further, and why can there never be a perfect angle? The camera is never alligned correctly with a) the goal line, b) the sideline or c) the first down line. I would like to see cameras put into the first down markers so that you can look right down the first down line (OSU) and also for the pylon cameras to be used more often when looking to see if the ball broke the goal line. And, they have the camera that is connected to wires that gets a view from above, so why not use a camera like that and place it directly over the first down/goal line?
December 5th, 2016 at 9:51 AM ^
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December 5th, 2016 at 9:13 AM ^
This is definitely an easy fix. Look at hockey - the replays all have the game clock stamped on to determine if the puck goes in right before the horn.
December 5th, 2016 at 10:55 AM ^
I think they use the Hawk-Eye system that tennis uses. There was a no-goal in Liverpool/Bournemouth that was a no goal by like less than an inch. Even the ref just kind of shrugged his shoulders and knew there was no way he would have been able to make that call himself.
There's gotta be a way to implement that into football. It would be tricky (since the line to gain is always moving), but it can be done.
http://www.newstalk.com/WATCH:-Goalline-technology-helped-Bournemouth-b…
December 5th, 2016 at 12:18 PM ^
Case in point: The media "truck" that the game director uses to decide what shots to show.
You can do it with software like this (http://www.dtsvideo.com/studiocode). I'm sure that there are literally dozens of software solutions to get it done. (I have used studiocode before, so that's why I latched onto that one...) NVivo (http://www.qsrinternational.com/) may be able to do it too.