Chill. Out
Quit being a bunch of pussies guys....what happened, happened. The media's gonna rail on the program because they can. They will sell advertising, get internet clicks, and gain listeners because this is a huge story.
Who gives a shit what anyone else say's? The program is moving forward. These allegations have been known for some time, the University is dealing with them and Coach Rod remains the football coach.
Haters will hate and rivals will say we "cheated." Whatever, let them say what they want to say - If we really wanted to cheat, we could've done a lot worse....
The team will prove it on the field next year, and that's all that matters. Bottom line.
Quit being a bunch of pussies and crying about everything that you're hearing on the radio. The media is paid to report the news and put their sensational spin on that news. Michigan sells, this story really sells.
We're talking about Practice. PRACTICE. In many instances, 20 minutes of practice. PRACTICE. If that's all the NCAA found, then that shit is weak.
Frankly I'm sick of hearing about this shit.
February 24th, 2010 at 11:45 AM ^
First off, comparing the FSU and USC infractions to the NCAA allegations against Michigan is a complete and utter stretch. Putting too many resources behind ensuring kids attend class and not counting stretching before practice as countable hours? Really, Magnus, comparable? LOL
"Infractions usually aren't "Coach X beat Player Y with a broom handle." They're usually things that can be positive, depending on your perspective. Trying to pass Michigan's infractions off as "We were trying to help our players" is pure, unadulterated homer bias."
No way. Infractions are "usually positive"? You slay me, brother. And calling anyone who disagrees with you a homer? Brilliant!
This whole thing has been a sham. The findings are a joke, and you know it. Those that hated Rodriguez from the start are sitting there rubbing their hands together, delighted at the "findings" of the NCAA. The rest of us are so freaking tired of the incessant, trumped-up, cannibalistic nature of the attacks, especially those from inside the Michigan family, that we just can't wait for football season to start to shut out all the negativity.
But what really gets me, is that even after almost 15k posts, you still can't figure out the "reply" function on these boards...
February 24th, 2010 at 11:58 AM ^
"And calling anyone who disagrees with you a homer? Brilliant!"
First of all, you're delusional if you don't think this board is full of homers. And I never said that anyone who disagrees with me is a homer. But there is a homer bias to much of what is said here. Can you really, honestly argue with that? There are a few posters here who have the ability to remain objective, such as chitownblue2. Many cannot.
"This whole thing has been a sham. The findings are a joke, and you know it."
Actually, I don't know that. And neither do you. In fact, I'm quite sure that the opposite is true, since the NCAA put forth these allegations AND Brandon/Rodriguez have admitted that they've made mistakes.
"But what really gets me, is that even after almost 15k posts, you still can't figure out the "reply" function on these boards..."
When I'm using my work computer, the "reply" button causes my browser to freeze. I've explained that several times. You may not have read the explanation, but if you're halfway intelligent (which you seem to be), then I'm pretty sure you know that I have the ability to use the "reply" button.
In the words of Les Miles, Have a great day.
February 24th, 2010 at 12:10 PM ^
that is all.
February 24th, 2010 at 12:30 PM ^
I actually think that many of those defending Michigan on here start out with a reasonable stance: while UM clearly did something wrong, and they should be punished for it, the spin that was put on all of this by the media is disappointing at best, and at worst intentionally inaccurate sensationalizing.
But then someone calls someone else a moron, and pretty soon everyone gets so vociferous in their corner that the rational arguments break down.
It's homer-ish (and incorrect) to say "these violations are so minor they don't matter" or "we did nothing wrong". It's not homer-ish to say "the allegations were trumped up and now the truth of what was found and the level of infractions are being obfuscated by the original outlandish allegations (e.g. 2 or 3 times overages on practice limits)".
Whatevs, this board, especially lately, has not been the place to have a rational discussion
February 24th, 2010 at 9:07 AM ^
will help to put our infractions in perspective. We did not buy Reggie Bush's parents a house, did not buy Joe McKnight a car, and didn't pay Mayo to play either. I think USC won't even get more than a slap on the wrist because, well, the're USC and the powers that be want to keep making tons of money off them. If they don't slam USC, then how can they bring the hammer down on us?
The major changes this will bring will be how the rest of the teams across the country practice in the off-season. It has been pointed out that every major college football program does the same thing, and everyone will suffer because of the freep. In my mind, these players want to put time in to be the best they can. These kids want to play in the NFL. Just look at the work out regimen of the graduated seniors who are going to the combine this weekend. Bradford said his training is 13 hours a day (including rehab). Nobody's forcing anyone to do anything.
February 24th, 2010 at 9:10 AM ^
IM SUPPOSED TO BE THE COACH OF A MAJOR D1 FOOTBALL PROGRAM AND WE TALKIN BOUT PRACTICE!?
February 24th, 2010 at 9:38 AM ^
"I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about practice, not a game, not a game, but we're talking about practice. Not the game that I go out there and die for and coach every game like it's my last but we're talking about practice man. How silly is that?"
February 24th, 2010 at 9:14 AM ^
Semprini
February 24th, 2010 at 9:24 AM ^
Kent Brockman: "Professor, without knowing precisely what the danger is, would you say it's time for our viewers to crack each other's heads open and feast on the goo inside?"
Professor: "Yes I would, Kent."
February 24th, 2010 at 9:26 AM ^
...I only have one +1 to give you, because you deserve more. Not only are you one hell of a prophet, but also an outstanding philosopher. Well stated, kind sir!
February 24th, 2010 at 9:32 AM ^
that people might want to come to grips with is that the freep was right... yes i just said that... but its true, sure they might have exagerated on practice time and misled 2 freshmen players and talked to former players who had an axe to grind... but what it comes down to is that they said there was improprieties going on with the program and yesterday the NCAA confirmed that... yes they are allegations but still michigan has to answer them... like it was said yesterday in a post "the NCAA doesn't spend 6 months in your house and doesn't come up with something"... which also came out to be true... before yesterdays presser, everyone here thought that this was only about practice time... the NCAA comes in and finds a few other things... which makes the dong punch hurt even more...
one more thing to people of MGOBLOG... if you are a person who calls the valenti and foster show, sends them emails, texts, or whatever... please stop... yesterday while listening all i heard was call after call from upset michigan fans who didn't have their facts straight and all they wanted to do was argue the original freep story... people bitch and complain here that the stories never die in the media, well here is the reason why... people here keep talking about them, or they call into radio shows to talk about them... if you want it to go away stop posting about it on here and stop calling the radio shows about it... if anything of importance comes up in the paper on the news or on the radio i'm sure Brian will post something... but we do not need 30+ threads a day about how the freep is biased and MSM hates michigan... /rant...
February 24th, 2010 at 9:39 AM ^
I don't really understand how you can say the Freep was right while saying the original story was exaggerated. Regardless of whether anyone believes they have now been vindicated, no UofM fan should be patting them on the back. It is still a despicable newspaper.
February 24th, 2010 at 9:47 AM ^
on the back what so ever, i still believe what they did was complete horse shit... all i am saying is that there was a very small portion of what they wrote in their original article was true... and people have to understand that... arguing the point that there original article was exgerated with anyone out side of this board is going to fall on deaf ears... a simple response from anyone is going to be "did michigan break the rules???" and the only answer that can be given is yes...
February 24th, 2010 at 6:05 PM ^
Even if the Freep report was a little bit true, I am not patting them on the back or even giving them any credit. They spewed enough bullshit in that article that just by pure chance, something had to be right.
Even the blind squirrel finds the occasional nut.
February 24th, 2010 at 11:16 AM ^
We are perpetuating this by continuing to post, respond to posts, call into talk shows, etc etc etc. Stop. I trust Brandon. We are addressing the issues. We will know the answer this Fall. We can't do anything about it but wait. New topic please.
February 24th, 2010 at 1:41 PM ^
college football programs I would bet every last dollar that practice infractions would have been found at all of them. Not to mention a couple of gratuitous "other" violations. I can't give the Freep any credit here.
February 24th, 2010 at 2:18 PM ^
In fact, I would say they were absolutely wrong. They reported that Michigan was exceeding practice limits by 2-3 times. The investigation clearly shows that to not be even close to the truth. It turns out that perhaps there was an error in how stretching and warm-ups are attributed under the somewhat vague definition of CARA, and perhaps a 20 minute overage during the season.
That seems the very definition of incorrect to me, in fact given the obvious slant of the original article and subsequent coverage, it would seem to me an overt misrepresentation based on what was known at the time, as well as a deliberate inflation of the durations in question, as well as the intentional suppression of any information about what is defined as voluntary/involuntary that would add context to the accusations. It was easily discoverable to the journalists, but they chose to omit it becuase they have a bias and an agenda.
To make an anology, it is a bit like writing a sensationalized piece about a CEO, charging him with embezzlement of millions of dollars from a company, stating that he abused the workers to their detriment and has run the company into the ground. All this based on accounts from a very few bitter ex-employees and a few comments from current employees that were taken completely out of context.
Shareholders are outraged, the employees are shocked and the press paints the CEO as a diabolical, greedy, self-serving elitist that is devoid of any morals or ethics. The mass media jumps on the story and it revertberates throughout various news outlets. The company has been operating at a loss for 2 years and therefore the CEO is vulnerable to these sorts of attacks.
A media frenzy ensues. Competitors pile on and prompt additional articles to reinforce the the original story. Disgruntled employees current and former jump on the bandwagon and talk about how terrible the CEO is in vague, non-specific terms.
Lost in the negative media blizzard are the positive contributions of the the CEO. An enhanced Family Leave program, profit sharing, improved benefits for all employees.
Of course, a massive investigation into the ALLEGED improprieties follows.
It turns out the that the current workers that were quoted were mislead and their comments taken out of context. The supposed anonymous sources that are ex-employees are still anonymous, which does not really add to their credibility. A thorough review of the CEO expense reports and activities show that there were some things that need to be corrected. In his expenses, his cell phone bill is covered but it is not clear that the data plan on that bill is covered, so they may need to make an adjustment to the tune of $50 per month for the last 1.5 years. Also, he may not have accurately accounted for 1-2 vacation days that were taken throughout the year, so that these too will need to be corrected.
Not wanting to be exposed, the original media outlet runs a headline 'Reports of CEO Embezzlement True!' and continues to cover it's own ass. All the naysayers in the original media outporing don't want to look stupid and demand that the CEO be tarred and feathered in the lobby of headquarters before running out of town on a rail, becuase he doesn't fit their idea of what a CEO should be, even though they are not quite able to define that, simply stating that he is anot a CEO-man as they understand it to be defined.
So, would you still say the original report was 'right'?
February 24th, 2010 at 9:50 AM ^
talk about this with mentions of USC in the same breath. They are their own creation, and have their own standards or lack thereof. As such, what they consider integrity and professionalism should never be used to define our own standards.
The University of Michigan prides itself on its own definitions with words like "Leaders" and "Best," and whatever improprieties anyone else may have committed should never be used a sanction or excuse for our own. Remember when you were a kid and you got in trouble for doing something stupid, and your best excuse was "because Timmy down the street did the same thing, and his mom didn't yell at all." If your parents were anything like mine, you know all too well how that ended.
Yes, what happened happened and the best thing we can do now is handle it professionally and honestly to the highest degree. I'm sure Brandon is viewing this as an opportunity to set the tone for his tenure, and we should think along the same lines. And yes, breaking the rules is breaking the rules, but the nature of our infractions were not sinister or Sabianesque in nature... The NCAA may not classify them as secondary, but were not unethical or sleazy or something that you'd expect of the likes of Kiffin. Our standards were compromised, but remain in place.
In short, I lose no pride in the Block M over this, and I encourage you to do the same.
February 24th, 2010 at 9:37 AM ^
...in principle with your arguments, don't forget that people in authority can, and often do, exercise that authority just because they can (and often out of spite).
February 24th, 2010 at 9:49 AM ^
1. Sure didn't help the last two years. Hope that less practice will mean more victories this year.
2. This blog should thank Magnus for facing the facts squarely and refusing to point blame at former players, the NCAA, and the press.
3. Regardless of the outcome to the NCAA allegations, I would like to see our team with our coach succeed beyond measure. This year. And next year. And the year after that.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:12 AM ^
3. Regardless of the outcome to the NCAA allegations, I would like to see our team with our coach succeed beyond measure. This year. And next year. And the year after that.What about the year after the year after that, huh? OMG YOU'RE NOT ALL IN!!!
February 24th, 2010 at 11:12 AM ^
When did your mancrush mangus ever state a fact? I am still waiting for one to be posted.
February 24th, 2010 at 10:07 AM ^
You seem worked up about this...
February 24th, 2010 at 10:09 AM ^
Really? It's the media's fault and anyone upset is a "pussy"?
No, these aren't the worst violations in the world, but they ARE violations. The violations do not show wrongdoing by boosters or players. They show wrongdoing (whether serious or minor) by the coach and his staff. If you want to blame anyone, blame them.
When the Fab 5 is discussed, it's usually pointed out that they were just kids...who wouldn't take a little loot. What's RR's excuse? He is a full grown man, no?
February 24th, 2010 at 11:08 AM ^
Are you French by any chance? Ending your sentence with a "no" is pretty fruity, no?
February 24th, 2010 at 12:12 PM ^
in that case, i would say no.
February 24th, 2010 at 12:21 PM ^
Like so: "Rich Rodriguez is a grown man."
February 24th, 2010 at 12:54 PM ^
You need to find something better to do.
February 24th, 2010 at 12:53 PM ^
I think complaining about someone else's phrasing is pretty "fruity".
February 24th, 2010 at 1:46 PM ^
Then it's just telling. I can tell you're either French or very funny. I don't think you can be both. That's why I can't appreciate Moliere.
February 24th, 2010 at 1:39 PM ^
It is only an issue because this was sensationalized, exaggerated erroneously and blown waaaaay out of proportion by a local hack journalist with an agenda.
If the Freep had psublished that their may have been a 2 hour and/or 20 minute overage in practice time, this is a blip.
Instead, we get all this rending of garments and crying from M fans about besmudging our reputation and
If an extremely biased media outlet sets out to paint a program with tar, they will undoubtedly be able to find a way to do so, especially when it seems like they have help from someone inside the AD. The fact that their original report was so overblown and exaggerated and manufactured from spurious sources should be some indication to you of their credibility.
An extremely biased media outlet and group of people in the AD department are responsible for besmirching the universitie's rep, not Rodriguez.
What I don't understand, is why so many UM fans are standing right beside them with a brush and a bucket of pitch and are so eager to help them succedd instead of backing their program.
Does it really just boil down to W/Ls for you? If RR had produced stellar seasons, would you still be so eager to join in on the smear campaign?
February 24th, 2010 at 1:54 PM ^
Look, the Freep might have exaggerated and used shitty ethics to start the ball rolling, but that doesn't mean that the NCAA made up facts or that the NCAA exaggerated. They didn't serve their allegations based on a news report.
If RR had good seasons...I'd have more support for him. Yes. That doesn't mean I'd completely excuse the allegations, but it's hard not to ignore the record.
February 24th, 2010 at 5:16 PM ^
If the accusations were anywhere close to what the Freep printed, then perhaps the end might justify the means, but they aren't, so it doesn't. What you are saying is that it is okay to publish a massively exaggerated lie without any basis in fact, if in the end any small kernal of what you accused someone of is true. That is beyond bad journalism and questionable ethics. It is a smear campaign, plain and simple.
Why you choose to support them in this, I really don't understand. If you think that is going to bring you your coveted Ws any sooner, you are sadly mistaken. You, and those like you, damage the program as a whole.
Really....you only stand behind M when they win? Really? Again we differ. I do and will support M until my last breath, whther or not they win or lose, precisely becuase the program stands for more than that. Even when we lose, we still stand for something in the way we run our programs, recruiting, academics, etc. Nothing about a few hours, or minutes, of extra practice is going to change that for me.....no matter what you or a bunch of fair-weather fans say.
February 24th, 2010 at 5:42 PM ^
Where to begin...?
First, don't smoke crack.
Second, feel free to point out where I support the Freep's journalism? I recall questioning it.
Third, don't say that I "damage the program". Did I lose all those games? Did I commit NCAA violations? Nope. I just donate money and cheer. So...fuck you for that.
Fourth, don't make things up and pretend I said them. I didn't say I "stand behind M only when they win". You're a blind loyalist; you could be fed shit from RR's dog and would love every bite. I love my school. I want them to win. I also want them to win without embarrassment. Whether the alleged violations are major or minor, whether they arose from shitty reporting or otherwise, they exist. Real fans deal with reality.
February 24th, 2010 at 8:05 PM ^
First: I'll just ignore the crack comment as it is kind of amateurish and sophomoric in a discussion.
Second: You support the Freep's journalism in your apologetic and dismissive attitude toward their rola and taking the position that somehow they should not be at all accountable for the blatant inaccuracies contained in there original piece. You say they 'might have exaggerated and used shitty ethics' to get the ball rolling'. There is no 'might have' with regard to exaggeration. in actuality they blew it out of proportion and by my measure, quite simply, they lied. They did not make even the most cursory attempt at providing context or any information about voluntary/involuntary activities, they trumped up the story from anonmyous witness and then twisted the comments of current players who simply talked about working hard (in the context that they were happy about it) to get better and further slanted the story.
This, along with quite literally everything else they have published since then is an attack on the program you profess to support. At the same time, this newspaper downgrades MSU player assaults on other students and women to 'altercation' in their headlines and shows a clear double-standard in how it presents information. And yet you hold them blameless b/c of your negative opinion of RR.
This is an organization that is explicitly attacking UM football and attempting to do it harm and rather than focusing any outrage on them, you instead choose to crucify the coach of your 'beloved' UM.
Third: You do damage the program. If you were fostering debate about RR's field strategy or his play calling theory and positing that you don't think he is the right coach, I can buy that and have an intelligent debate with you.
Instead, you become complicit in the Freep's attack by calling him shameful and acting like he has done some great wrong and is a giant black mark on the University. He isn't. If you had dug around as much and twisted information the same way, you could have written the same hit piece on any M coach in the modern era, with likely the same result; a public accusation of HUGE improprieties then then the finding of some small iniquities that are easily corrected.
Games were going to be lost, games are going to be lost. Don't make your support contingent upon them.
I support RR not because I think he will bring the W, which I do. I support him precisely b/c I believe he cares for the athletes much more than your average big time D1 coach. He cares that they behave, he cares that they attend class, he will boot them at the slightest provocation if they are a discipline problem. Did you miss that the investigation found out that they were OVER enforcing class attendance during summer? Scandal! You damamge the program by supporting the ouster of RR when it remains to be seen whether his coaching is going to bring us back to the level we should be at. You damage recruiting, you play directly into the hands of those that wish to do it harm.
Fourth: Not a blind loyalist, when someone shows me a shred of evidence that RR has abused players or not had their best interestes in the highest regard, I will be the first one with a pitch fork. You are an ignorant patsy that swallows whatever headlines are fed to you and you act like a corpulent little child brat when you don't have enough W on your plate. Poor little you that you might have to hear from a few MSU fans about some baseless claims that amount to, at most, 5% of extra practice time/stretching. Boo hoo. They exist b/c of shitty reporting.
Reality:
-discipline problems are off the team regardless of position and or need
-the team GPA is up and kids are going to class and thriving in school or they pay a price for it
-the coach is behind Mealer no matter if/when/how he contributes
-the players are continually involved in community activities
-regardless of what you think of Dorsey, I see a lot of high character individuals coming into the program and I would add that I think Dorsey is one of them
I went to UM, my parents met there, i have a brother and sister that also went there. I grew up going to home games every weekend, I value M's integrity as a program more than i do W's. This does not amount to anything that represents a denegration of that and if you show some stones and back your program you will realize that, rather than whimpering at the thought of an MSU fan trash talking you.
5th: Are you really more worried about what State fans might say, when you can reply, I should think, pretty aggressively about a program that has generated several arrests and convictions for violent transgressions in the last year?
February 24th, 2010 at 8:15 PM ^
Seriously. Looks like you could use it.
I don't know why you can't understand, but just because I don't foam at the mouth when thinking of the Freep doesn't mean I support it. I'm just mature enough to realize that more than one organization can do wrong at the same time.
Don't reply, your keyboard is tired of your pounding on it.
February 25th, 2010 at 3:24 AM ^
No one expects you to foam at the mouth, but being apologetic and dismissive of the lack of integrity on the part of the Free Press in causing the whole mess, while then thumping your podium with your fist about the venal character of those who brought such deep shame to the university by misappropriating 5% of voluntary vs. involuntary practice time would seem at best duplicitious.
You should go out and get more information than just what you read in the Free Press, there is a whole world of it out there, don't be scared, but it does require to apply some critical thought to what you read and to ponder the source and the agenda before you judge. Try it, you might like it.
You probably think I am all in for RR and actually, I'm not. As an on the field coach I think the jury is still out on that and only time will tell if his system is going to work at M or not.
I just get tired, as many on this site do, of M fans that regurgitate the slanted reporting from the Free PRess and their ilk without any regard for the bias they present and then they disreghard any evidence that would refute that becuase it doesn't support the opinion the want to have.
February 24th, 2010 at 1:45 PM ^
the compliance administration, if anybody.
Do you think head coaches at other D1 program are involved in getting the players to fill out logs and such?
Do you think the coaches for other sports at UM are involved?
If you impune RR, then you have to also hold accountable the entire AD, becuase they are also named in the allegations.
Whatever your view, you can't reliably lay this all at Rich rodriguez's feet, unless you are doing so in an effort to tarnish him because of some other agenda you have against him.
February 24th, 2010 at 1:50 PM ^
Sure...The administration is at fault as well. Of course, it's RR's team and he likely did know what was going on. But I'll agree that blame can be shared (just not shared by the players, boosters or recruits).
Other agenda? Umm...unless my agenda is winning without the shame of scandal...then no.
February 24th, 2010 at 4:34 PM ^
I just don't see this as a scandal when the 'infractions' or something of their ilk would turn up if this level of muck-raking were applied to any other Div 1 program.
Scandal is in the eye of the beholder.
The real scandal is the witch-hunt, the lack of journalistic integrity, the double-standard of the Freep and the fans that are jumping on the tar & pitchfork bandwagon rather than calling BS.
I respect your opinion, I just disagree about the most productive place to focus my outrage.
February 24th, 2010 at 4:52 PM ^
Even if it happens everywhere; we got caught.
That makes it a scandal. Even though the allegations are fairly weak, we now have to hear about "cheating" from every Spartan retard in the state. Maybe if RR were more competent, he wouldn't have gotten caught. This isn't WV - folks read and write here.
February 24th, 2010 at 7:01 PM ^
You say we got 'caught', I would say we had an agenda driven reporter publish a massively incorrect expose that then necessitated an investigation that came up with very little to support it. I'm not indicating it is okay b/c it happens everywhere, I'm saying that at a program as large and complex as Michigan football, if you spend any amount of time diggin around for dirt, you will find some dust.
The Freep published that the program was overtly dirty/muddy and was abusing students. Now that the investigation is somewhat complete, it turns out that there were some minor iniquities in how time was attributed that are easily fixed.
Now, instead of looking back at the original accusations as being a slanted hit job and asking the newspaper to provide some accounting of how they came to publish something so accurate, you choose to go after the head coach who isn't even the one responsible for the so called infractions.
You are holding RR to an unfair standard and demanding a type of perfection that I just don't think is possible. He doesn't run compliance, he coaches football.
Honestly, regardless of what happens with RR, I hope that if nothing else comes of this, that those michigan fans that aren't behind their team when it is down, the ones that have no heart or stomach to see them through this rebuilding process, I hope they go away and never come back. Fickle, weak, chinless fans are not what the programs needs right now.
February 24th, 2010 at 7:09 PM ^
You have a basic problem understand that the Detroit Free Press is not the NCAA. The NCAA did ITS OWN INVESTIGATION. You can insult other fans all day long. It only makes you look sad and pathetic. Until you gain the ability to understand the difference between a newspaper and the NCAA, I won't bother with you.
All the best.
February 25th, 2010 at 3:10 AM ^
Sad and pathetic, riiiight.
Let me repeat myself to you,s-l-o-w-l-y so you get it.
The NCAA investigated BECAUSE the Free Press LIED!!! Do you get that? They LIED to sell papers. If you still think this was an innocent little article on their part, then you really aren't aware of what is going on.
I understand the NCAA investigated and came up with, what I consider to be essentially NOTHING, especially as compared to the accusations originally leveled by the Free Press. So, 2 hours of misappropriated stretching in the off-season and 20 minutes during the regular season. Whatevs. Fire the coach over that? Hardly. Impune his character over it? Nope. You call yourself a realist and me blind, but I would like to hear your opinion of the following:
-higher team GPA (hardly speaks to an abused set of athletes divested of the opportunity to get an education)
-stricter disciplinearian than Lloyd Carr (love Lloyd, not knocking him, just using it as a point of reference)
-day one after Melar's accident before he has ever set foot on campus mobilizing a massive show of support and a guarantee he will be taken care of no matter if/when he can contribute, oh and his brother
-numerous appearances at philanthropic/community events thjat he really doesn't need to go to, much more thasn the bare minimum he would need to attend', the same for his players
You don't factor any of this into your opinion of him and I am blind? hmmmmmmmm.
I am not alone in this opinioon. Read the last entry on the front page where the more objectiveknowledgable and reasonable blogospere reaction is 'meh' and compare it to your reaction that is essentially the same is that of the less than thoughtful MSM sensationalists along the lines of 'OMG Massive Infractions! Death, Death!'. Is that who you really want to align yourself with? Does it make you feel smart to think like Drew Sharpe?
I will say it again. You are purely about the Ws and nothing else and you simply select the information that supports your bias against RR becuase you think getting rid of him will bring more Ws. You said yourself in forming your opinion that 'the record is hard to ignore'. Make up your mind, do you think he is unethical and has really shamed UM with the clerical erros his taff made on practivce time and would you still feel that way if he was 16-8 over 2 years?
February 24th, 2010 at 11:36 AM ^
against MSU, or any other top program, an NCAA investigation would turn up some minor practice violations.
USC should get the same punishment our men's basketball team received. But I have this awful feeling that big $$$ the USC program brings to the NCAA will result in a slap on the wrist. I sure hope our penalty is just a slap on the wrist but with the wacky way the NCAA works you just never know!