OT: Do you believe in UFOs?
Maybe the better question - do you beleive in otherworld beings? Aliens? Are we being spied on? Are some "people" reptilian? Are you reptilian?
My stance? I don't really know, but there is too much evidence for it to be a flat out "no."
Note: This is meant to be a slow July, no football, WAY OT, fun discussion. So Neg me, Pos me, post a GIF, whatever.
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we are being spied on.
I feel like it's nearly a mathematical certainty that there is life elsewhere. TBD if it is intelligent life.
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I'm sure there are other intelligent life forms somewhere in the universe. Are they spying on us? Probably not.
Are we being spied on?
Yes
By whom?
That is a discussion for another board.
You are now on their list.
My question as well. What is this "evidence" that is spoken of?
That's all the evidence I ever needed.
The odds are also that the distances between stars are too great such that life from one system will never be able to visit life in another system. And no, "BUT SUPER ADVANCED ALIEN TECHNOLOGY!" does not get you around this problem.
Are you a Star Trek Enterprise Fan?
And the vastness of space is apparently too great for any non-terrestial technology to conquer. See, e.g., the Fermi paradox. And that is just one example. Also problematic are the absence of dyson spheres around any of the billions of stars we've observed, and the absence of the type of infrared radiation that would be expected from a super-advanced, galaxy-wide civilization "mining" a signifincant portion of the total energy in their galaxy. These would be prerequisites to interstellar travel capability, similar to how an alien civilzation observing earth might look for evidence of nuclear detonations as a prerequisite to human space travel capability.
How can you handicap an odds for something our brightest scientists know nothing about (and you know far less about)?
200 years ago - It's the AIR. Don't tell me "SUPER ADVANCE TECHNOLOGY" will get you around that. Nothing the size of a horse drawn carriage could fly through the sky.
Our current understanding of physics is bullshit. Our current understanding about ANYTHING is bullshit. The best thing you can do is admit that as far as we have come as a civilization, we still don't really know anything at all.
we know that Ohio State fans are douchebags and JIM HARBAUGH IS THE BEST FOOTBALL COACH THAT EVER LIVED
100 years ago we were barely taking flight, 50 years ago we landed on the moon. This week we're all looking at HD pictures from a probe 4.67 Billion miles away.
Now I can get it right on my phone in HD.
Elon Musk retweeted this last week. I honestly can't comprehend how small Earth is in comparison to the solar system, let alone our galaxy, let alone let alone compared to the infinite other galaxies out there.
http://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem.html
Link is to a scale model of the solar system with the moon representing one pixel. It's 1800+ screens wide.
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I only made it as far as Uranus.
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Rectum, damn near killed him.
The point of the scale map is to show how much of the solar system is space and give some kind of sense how far it is from one body to another, not how big two objects are in comparison.
There's an interesting fact in there: If you rendered the scale to Earth at one pixel and printed the map on a 330PPI printer, the pages would stretch 450ft and Earth wouldn't be visible. The vast expanses of nothing are the real story.
It might have missed your point slightly, but its a damn cool image. And also puts the vast expanses of nothing into a less blurry perspective.
If the popular held beliefs about the odds of how many planets may have intelligent life are even close to correct, then there should be one planet with intelligent life (in the known universe) for every grain of sand on earth.
I am half Alien. Yes I am spying on you. Hi Mike. I see you. Peekaboo!
Pure Ann Arborian awesome.
My thoughts are:
A) Yes, there is likely intelligent life elsewhere in the universe.
B) If that alien technology is advanced enough to travel from distances light years away and prefers to remain undetected, then I have trouble believing a hiker with an iPhone can video said alien spaceship.
Unidentified flying objects could be anything, that is the unidentified part. Now if the question is are there little green men from outspace visiting, I doubt it. Physics as we know it make travel across the vastness of space seem unlikely. Worm holes and the like maybe, but as we know it, it would take hundreds or thousands of years to get from one spot to another going at the speed of light. I guess if some beings had a different sense of time like a day to them is what we call a 100 years maybe.
as we know, as is being theorized and the stuff we don't know and specuate pretty much has no limits. Space travel, time travel and any other type of travel can either be mathematically proven or is expected to fall within the rules of physics as the field grows.
If we acheive intersellar human space travel, it will most certainly not be in a metal ship burning fossal fuel. But that is not to say it can't be done.
My stance is that yes there are other evolved beings, probably ones much more evolved than we are. Even with the advancement some beings may see, I don't think we'll ever interract with any of them. And furthermore, if we do happen to recieve a visit from some beings, it wont be for them to say hi, it will be because they are looking for something they want.
Hell, I'm not certain there is intelligent life on Earth.