OT: NFL getting rid of extra points?

Submitted by julesh on

One coach to me at NFL Owners meetings...looks like we're getting rid of extra points

— trey wingo (@wingoz) March 23, 2015
 
 
If this is true, what will they do? A TD is worth 7 points? Just out of 6?

SWPro

March 23rd, 2015 at 1:39 PM ^

What I would like to see is a change to field goals to make them worth less the closer you are.

 

There are so many times a team drives down inside the 5 and gets to 4th and 2 from the 2. The coach is faced with a 50/50 play and kicks the field goal for the 3 points because his kicker has a 99% conversion rate at that point.

 

If a FG from inside the 5 was worth 2 points I think you would see a lot more coaches go for it based on the expected points difference (3.5 vs 2 as opposed to 3.5 vs 3). This would be a lot more exciting then watching the kicker trot out.

SWPro

March 23rd, 2015 at 4:02 PM ^

Then by the same logic of getting rid of extra points let just make the field goal automatic inside the 5. Free 3 points don't have to risk kicking it.

 

Its not about making it exciting its about forcing coaches to make actual decision.

 

http://static.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/garber_greg/1453717.html

 

Yeah its espn blah blah but read the article. Cal-Berkley econ professor tells us what we know.

 

"A team facing fourth-and-goal within five yards of the end zone is better off, on average, trying for a touchdown."

 

But coahes are cowards and are afraid if they don't make it they'll get fired. If any decision is a no-brainer we should remove (give the 3 points for free on a no-brainer FG). Or challenge it to not be a no-brainer (change the expected points to make it an actual decision.

 

Who cares if its fair?

 

UofM626

March 23rd, 2015 at 1:47 PM ^

That's why the NFL records etc mean shit. Change the game, change the scoring, change the kick offs, change the refs duty, change to replay, change the amount of games in a season. Fuck that

Give me baseball all day! And before someone beats the drum about steroids, if you think for one minute the NFL and the players are are not using and knowing of all the rampant use of HGH you people are kidding me. The NFL is in for a rude awaking starting next year with the testing of HGH. Watch as players get hurt more, watch as the game will slow down a bit, watch as players get smaller. I say again watch!!!

ESNY

March 23rd, 2015 at 2:00 PM ^

I don't have an issue with it.  Logically it makes no sense that you still need to attempt to score after you score.  Could you imagine a basketball player having to hit a FT after scoring a basket?  

ESNY

March 23rd, 2015 at 3:26 PM ^

Straw man, is that you?  How bout we only let teams kick an extra point if they score a TD and a penalty is called on the defense during the play

Shooting a free throw is to give you a bonus (or penalize the other team) for fouling a shooter who happens to make the basket.  If you aren't fouled, you don't get a chance to get an extra point by hitting a free throw after you scored.

caguab

March 23rd, 2015 at 2:01 PM ^

How about a rule requiring the guy who scored the touchdown to kick the extra point?  Would definitely make it more interesting and variable.

LSAClassOf2000

March 23rd, 2015 at 2:31 PM ^

They had some additional information on ProFootballTalk - LINK

From the sound of this, part of the change is to move the extra point to the 1-yard line from the 2-yard line:

From the 2-yard line, where extra points have been since 1994, two-point conversions are successful slightly less than half the time. But from the 1-yard line, two-point conversions would likely be successful more than half the time. That means that most of the time, going for two would have a better expected payoff than kicking the extra point.

TomJ

March 23rd, 2015 at 4:31 PM ^

Teams failed to make an extra-point about 0.7% of the time. In 2014 only 6 extra points were missed by all NFL teams in 16 regular season games. 

Extra points are boring, and the outcome is all but a sure thing. As long as they don't take away the opportunity to go for 2 points I'm all for eliminating it from the game. It'll also make the games go faster.

jmblue

March 23rd, 2015 at 3:17 PM ^

I don't like this.  Kicking is integral to football and harkens back to the origins of the sport.

What they should do is require the player who scored the TD to kick the PAT.  That would liven things up a lot.  (Field goals could still be kicked by a specialist.)

CompleteLunacy

March 23rd, 2015 at 3:15 PM ^

Why get rid of it entirely? There are very simple ways of increasing level of difficulty without going straight to the "throw it out" solution. I still like the idea of earning that point, even if it's become depressingly boring in recent years.

This is another example of the NFL neutering its own game (right alongside kickoffs) rather than making it more interesting. 

xtramelanin

March 23rd, 2015 at 5:26 PM ^

'suckers walk!'

yep, that's right.  the team that gets scored upon has to walk all the way down to the other end of the field and the dudes that scored get to make fun of them.    and no more TV timeouts to avoid the shame of 30 million people watching the walk of shame.