OT- Game of Thrones S04E04 @ 9:00: Oathkeeper
It's that time of the week again. I love how some of the characters that I hated are now among my favorites. The Hound and The Kingslayer are the best examples of this. Little finger is a weasel and will use anyone to get on the Iron Throne. Dudes and dudettes, No Book Spoilers please. Enjoy!
We Do Not Sow
also comes on in a minute, at 9pm.
Set your DVR's to record the one you can't watch right now!
I missed this thread last week...
jdon
April 27th, 2014 at 10:37 PM ^
to make Pod, Lady Breann's squire. He had to leave the city if he wanted to live.
Why does it seem like Grey Worm can barely put words together in this episode?
That seems like a serious defensive flaw for them to have easily opened doors to the city.
I like the set up of the slaves freeing themselves...
awesome scene.
jdon
Grey worm is such a badass.
black flag, red symbol...
anarchist?
Littlefinger oscillates between badass to complete pervert with shocking speed.
Is that Locke?
interesting turn of events.
I genuinely enjoy shit like this cause what comes next is a mystery.
good writing in my opinion...
jdon
Yeah, I'm really interested to see how this works out. Also very interesting that Sam told Jon about Bran this time.
April 27th, 2014 at 10:03 PM ^
Is heavily diverging from the books. Won't go further, so as not to spoil anything for non literate types (NTTAWWT). I'm not generally a fan of the show going a different direction, which they seem to be doing more and more.
April 27th, 2014 at 10:15 PM ^
It's not even the same story any more...
I'm popping my popcorn and heading to westeros.org...
I also post on towerofthehand...
there is an interesting debate to be had about releasing information that isn't even in the books, but I don't think I'm able to handle it right now...
jdon
ps. nonbook readers are unsullied...
April 27th, 2014 at 10:51 PM ^
I read that one occasionally too, but not very often anymore. When I was reading the last book I was on there quite a bit trying to glean nuggets of info, and was duly sucked in.
Also, I'm pretty sure I know exactly the two things you're referring to about info not yet divulged in the books. Sadly, can't go there on here...
April 28th, 2014 at 12:08 PM ^
April 27th, 2014 at 10:18 PM ^
One thing that is kind of cool about them doing things a little different is that it keeps us book readers guessing as well. I think it is smart on their part.
April 28th, 2014 at 12:45 AM ^
The show of course has to diverge, but after season one, I predicted to myself that there would come a point where a (perhaps somewhat) major character who was killed off in the books would not be killed off in the show (because ratings) and the divergence would instantly widen by miles.
Hasn't happened yet, but I can smell it.
April 27th, 2014 at 10:43 PM ^
His monologue to the Kingslayer, right before he chopped off his hand, was classic. " Your daddy ain't here!"
I can not contain my happiness over the fact that they didn't cut Ser Pounce.
I just said the same thing!
my wife thinks I'm an idiot. lol
Lady Whiskers - where is she? Too much divergence from the books!!! LOL
"I'm was a fucking legend in Gin Alley"
God I want that dude dead.
April 27th, 2014 at 10:47 PM ^
Fuck em til they're dead!
How did they get Ghost?
Hodor :(
this whole Craster's keep is a fucked up place to be right now... and they have Ghost? intersting to see how the episode ends.
badass ending.
bad ass
What the fuck was that thing?
mindblown... and all readers of the books are probably either elated, or fucking pissed...
I'm both.
April 27th, 2014 at 10:01 PM ^
I think book readers are just confused.
Or at least I am.
It was sweet though.
April 27th, 2014 at 10:20 PM ^
yep, book reader as well...I am kinda lost now. The Kings Landing and the Eyrie events are going as expected for the most part.
They said at their current rate of filming that they pass up the books, so they had to make new storylines.
Instead of adding stuff not in the books, they could have filmed the Iron Isles storyline. Doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to amp up the fantasy aspect when it didn't need to be done.
April 27th, 2014 at 10:00 PM ^
Love the White Walker Fortress of Solitude.
April 28th, 2014 at 12:08 PM ^
April 27th, 2014 at 10:01 PM ^
April 27th, 2014 at 10:05 PM ^
Absolutely. I don't want to find out how this series ends from the TV show. I mean, don't get me wrong, the show is amazing, but I prefer the books.
April 27th, 2014 at 10:05 PM ^
As a book reader, I'm gonna say that I actually think these changes are pretty perfect because they sort of fill in the gaps as to missing information - like having Locke/Vargo up there sets up him mysteriously disappearing before shit goes down and returning to the Boltons, for example. Great episode!
April 27th, 2014 at 10:12 PM ^
The Locke/Vargo set up is good, but I would like his lisp, specifically "thapphireth".
April 27th, 2014 at 10:08 PM ^
Awesome episode. As someone who's reading the books but behind the show, the final scene was interesting - I can't wait to catch up in the books because there's clearly some deviation there... Unless Captain Icicle is a special guest POV character.
There was a lot of controversy on the rape scene last week and I have to say, I think it was a mistake by the showrunners - Jamie's redemption arc is tough to swallow/accept when he goes and rapes a chick after being all about preventing rape and being monogamous. Though, perhaps it's the beginning of the end of he and Cersei, which would take him back down a tragic, lonely arc which may perhaps be fitting.
4 episodes I wouldn't have been very excited about happenings north of the wall, but now I'm super pumped for next week and the (hopeful!) reunion of some Starks. But, I probably shouldn't expect it.
Thanks book readers for keeping this thread spoiler/hint/not so subtle reference free.
April 27th, 2014 at 10:18 PM ^
well said bender.
And, like I said earlier, I was sad when there was no thread last week...
jdon
April 27th, 2014 at 10:53 PM ^
Very good episode.. The ending is absolutely going to be analyzed and in my opinion that is a good thing. I would honestly not be upset if things that are only theorized by the books are shown explicitly here.
April 27th, 2014 at 10:18 PM ^
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April 28th, 2014 at 11:50 AM ^
It is clear in the books that they are different from the wights (the dead guy, his horse, and so on), but IIRC it isn't clear exactly how so. I think most readers of the books were not expecting to see them appear as basically a different, demonic species, but it makes sense. This is a world where dragons exist, after all. And demons are obviously an integral part of medieval French religion and mythology, the source of much of Martin's fantasia.
April 27th, 2014 at 10:39 PM ^
April 27th, 2014 at 10:58 PM ^
Relevance?
April 27th, 2014 at 11:02 PM ^
Also, spitballing here on Dany. This isn't the first time she's gone for the jugular in the serving justice realm.
I'm starting to think we're seeing her fatal flaw (please no book comments on this!). It's already been suggested that she will have trouble controling her dragons and she has shown no mercy*. Also, during tonights episode I was thinking "ok, so is she going to rule Mereen for the time being? How is that really going to work?"
*Though, having mercy when possible would be a Stark trait and certainly it's been shoved down our throats that the Stark way is not the way to win the game of thrones.