Dantley regrets acting like a little bitch?
Crybaby
"The Jordan Rules? Is that something you guys made up??"
Man, the Jordan Rules, that was great.
FWIW... I HATE David Stern.
Notice he didn't complain about the Pat Riley/Ewing Knicks who were everybit as rough as the Bad Boys
HE appeared on the documentary and said he should have cracked down on the physical play. Later on IMO he changed the rules to make it more offensive friendly. After the defensive rules changes, I quit following the NBA seriously.
Who is "our?" I honestly don't know who he's referring to when he says that. The players, the fans? Why not just call it "the" game. He sounds like such a controlling asshole all the time.
April 17th, 2014 at 10:09 PM ^
He's a Walmart commissioner.
is Detroit through and through and it isn't hard to see.
Holy shit, I had forgotten how Dennis would go flying into the crowd - not just the front row, but many rows deep.
Why is there no heart like this in the NBA anymore?
I reject the cliche anti-NBA rhetoric on this board. I can't argue with this one. Can't think of a whole lot of guys who play like this anymore.
Cliches are cliches for a reason.
something gets bandied about a lot doesn't make it true. Especially when people are just regurgitating what they hear without forming their own opinion, which is what a cliche is. Doesn't make something true.
April 17th, 2014 at 11:02 PM ^
April 17th, 2014 at 11:28 PM ^
Oh I bet he's reading a lot of Gordon Wood. He reads his Gordon Wood and he regurgitates it from his textbook and he thinks he's wicked awesome doing that, and how bout dem apples and all that Gordon Wood business.
Does no one know who Gordon Wood is?
April 17th, 2014 at 11:49 PM ^
something gets bandied about a lot doesn't make it true. Especially when people are just regurgitating what they hear without forming their own opinion, which is what a cliche is. Doesn't make something true.
something gets bandied about a lot doesn't make it true. Especially when people are just regurgitating what they hear without forming their own opinion, which is what a cliche is. Doesn't make something true.
I'll be honest, the main reason I quit following the NBA was the Pistons irrelevance after David changed the rules to allow more high scoring. When Iverson came to the Pistons I quit becoming a fan of the game. That, plus my increased presence on hockey sites like HFBoards, and I had no time for the NBA anymore.
April 17th, 2014 at 10:13 PM ^
April 17th, 2014 at 10:27 PM ^
They changed the rules again after the Pistons started succeeding in the 2000's. I remember talking with my Pistons friend back then and he would always blame the defensive rule changes which opened up guard play as the reason why the Pistons started to decline.
Oh now they pile on the Pistons, shut up
The Celtics did the exact same thing to the pistons a few years earlier.
April 17th, 2014 at 10:03 PM ^
April 17th, 2014 at 10:04 PM ^
I'd hate to say this but I feel much worse for Joe D after this. Constructing the BBII in the exact same mold and nearly winning multiple championships. The exact same script. A bunch of players nobody wanted with chips on their shoulders. Billups, Ben, Sheed, Rip, Tay, M James, Corliss, Atkins, Soup, Memo.. God that was a good team.
Shit... I'm drunk and feeling bad for Dumars..... Good night.
April 17th, 2014 at 10:14 PM ^
I am not a Nascar fan but I did see an article this year or last that the powers that be lifted some restrictions and decided to let the drivers do some rubbing and banging on the track. I would still watch the NBA if the game was still played the way it was in the late 80's. So much fun to watch.
April 17th, 2014 at 10:16 PM ^
Watching the aftershow: yeah, losing Mahorn was really eviscerating. To go from celebrating your championship, parade and all, and then you're gone. That was crushing.
That was awful timing by the NBA, holding the expansion draft two days after the last NBA Finals game. They could have given us a few more days.
April 17th, 2014 at 10:38 PM ^
Very good documentary as espected. I wish they spent a tad more on the Bulls-Pistons rivalry and the Piston's side of walking out early (they touched on it briefly, but thought they could have even more), but I guess you can't always have it your way.
April 17th, 2014 at 10:55 PM ^
Pistons-Celtics and Pistons-Lakers were the more important rivalries for the story. The Pistons had to get past the Celtics to get to the championship, then get past the Lakers to win a championship.
April 17th, 2014 at 11:22 PM ^
April 18th, 2014 at 12:02 AM ^
Awesome documentary. Honestly may be my favorite one ever - even moreso than the Fab 5. I'll have to let it sit for a few weeks, but this one was very well done. And the panel afterwards was great.
Rodman was awesome.
I loved it. My only nitpick is that I wanted to hear even more of Johnny Most's slobbering against the Pistons' physicality. More of it here:
That was awesome. I miss those teams.
I do a little bad about Joe Dumars after watching that, but at the same time, the last several years have been pretty rough. Passing on Trey still gets me - he has that same "tough kid with a chip on his shoulder" mentality that this franchise has thrived upon.
...so no one tell me how it ends.
Loved this. The 80's Pistons were my favorite team in any sport of all time for three main reasons:
1. Detroit.
2. They earned their way to to the top in a story book way with year after year of heartbreak and dues paying like Bird stealing the ball, or Isiah's ankle vs the Lakers.
3. As this show clearly reflected, they "Fought the Power" in that they were the wrench in the NBA's three biggest flagship franchises in the last 40 years - the Lakers/Celtics/Bulls. They were the team that put an end to two of those franchises (Lakers/Celtics) and were the only ones to ever control Michael Jordan before he too rose to the top.
Loved these guys and I'll never forget attending Bill Laimbeer's jersey retirement game.
April 18th, 2014 at 10:14 AM ^
The mid 1980's thru mid to late 1990's were a golden age in basketball. There were so many great players in those times. I wish the game now was played like it was then.
Not a lot of Vinnie in the doc and I was very surprised at how bad AD presents himself. AD comes off as a paranoid and selfish jerk. Maybe I was too young to understand what was going on back then but I don't feel bad that AD didn't get a ring in Detroit anymore. And all of your other comments are covered in the doc. It's outstanding.