September 27th, 2023 at 6:47 PM ^
Give...the man...his money! Lmfao
September 27th, 2023 at 6:52 PM ^
Don't splash the pot.
September 27th, 2023 at 7:00 PM ^
I am shocked. Shocked! Well, not that shocked.
September 27th, 2023 at 7:00 PM ^
1) ESPN (and other media outlets) are sending FOIA requests to MSU about the report before the USA Today article.
2) USA Today prints their article with Tracy identified as the source.
3) Tracy's lawyer releases a statement on 9/12 that says "an outside party" leaked Tracy's name to local reporters.
4) Tracy tweets on 9/12 that "someone" leaked her name.
5) USA Today prints a story that says USA Today Network reporters in Michigan heard Tracy's name in connection with rumors. Those reporters then alerted USA Today but would not reveal their sources. USA Today then called Tracy and relayed this information, and then Tracy "believing it was someone from MSU" (as written by USA Today) agreed to go on the record.
6) The State News then obtains a draft statement of the 9/12 release--how, we don't know--of Tracy's lawyer. The draft says:
“Someone associated with the MSU Board of Trustees disclosed my client's identity to an outside party. That outside party shared her identity with local media.”
Tracy's lawyer seems to verify this is a true draft and she stands by the contents of the draft but will not say who it is, implying that she actually knows who it is. (Remember, USA Today said they called Tracy to tell her about the leak and when they called Tracy, they didn't even know who the source was.)
7) According to the State News:
A copy of the draft statement was shared with MSU’s general counsel, Brian Quinn, on Sept. 12. That same day, MSU’s administration ordered an outside investigation into the leak.
But the administration didn’t publicly announce that investigation until Sept. 18. ...
As a result, the administration couldn’t immediately tell the board.
That left former MSU board chair Dianne Byrum demanding the university investigate the leak after an investigation had already been ordered.
Someone make this make sense.
September 27th, 2023 at 7:07 PM ^
Somebody leaked it to ESPN who didn’t have possession of the report. Tracy got wind of this and told USA Today to run with the story.
It is odd how they got ahold of the lawyer’s initial draft. There is some suspicious shit going on.
September 27th, 2023 at 7:11 PM ^
Somebody leaked it to ESPN who didn’t have possession of the report. Tracy got wind of this and told USA Today to run with the story.
1) ESPN--which printed first--did not have her name in their story until USA Today printed it. They did not have her name.
2) Tracy got wind of this leak to ESPN and knew who it was that leaked it...how?
3) Your version doesn't account for USA Today's version of the story. Or did they just simply called her and told her something she already knew and she didn't have time to first go on the record, or hearing it from them pushed over the edge to agree to go on record?
September 27th, 2023 at 7:18 PM ^
1)They didn’t print much. USA Today is the one that had the details.
2) Someone told her that her name was leaked to the media.
3) According to her she okayed for USA Today to use her name once she found out that her name was leaked to the press.
September 27th, 2023 at 7:25 PM ^
Sal, I don't think you're getting what I'm asking. But don't worry, I made a string of events that makes it all add up. You can read below if you care.
September 27th, 2023 at 7:24 PM ^
Wait, I figured it out.
Someone at MSU who knew (Haller or Woodruff, or possibly General Counsel) told a BOT member about Mel and Brenda.
The BOT member tells "the outside party" who could be, like, their dog walker or postman.
The dog walker tells other people at the bar where Graham Couch (or someone) is sitting and says, "Guess what BOT Member told me about Mel and this woman named Brenda!"
Couch calls Kenny Jacoby, because he knows Big USA Today has this story.
Jacoby tells Tracy, "Guess what Graham Couch overheard the other day!"
Tracy says, "Print it!"
Tracy's lawyer actually has no idea who the outside party is or even which BOT member it is.
I think I accounted for everything there.
September 27th, 2023 at 7:50 PM ^
It doesn't make sense.
As someone else alluded to, the only thing that is clear is that we will have ALL KINDS of lawsuits between MSU, Tracy and Tucker, all of them suing and counter-suing each other.
Good luck untangling the truth of it all.
September 28th, 2023 at 12:17 AM ^
MSU would have been better off if this had stayed quiet and told they Mel we will pay 25-30 Million to step down.
September 27th, 2023 at 7:07 PM ^
This dysfunctional BoT will ensure the story stays in the news much longer than it should.. and, if there’s any fire associated with this smoke - Mel’s package for separation is going to be much, much bigger. Has this BoT done anything correct… ever?
September 27th, 2023 at 7:13 PM ^
Tucker is not going to get the full contract but if this turns out to be true regarding the BoT the settlement price likely just jumped by millions for Tucker.
MSU's Board is almost comically inept.
September 27th, 2023 at 7:35 PM ^
“almost”? Methinks you have severely understated this…. This BoT makes Monty Python look like a junior high school improv company.
September 27th, 2023 at 7:15 PM ^
If it is provable this is going to become a long term circus.
September 27th, 2023 at 10:03 PM ^
this plus the above comment = flying circus
September 27th, 2023 at 7:15 PM ^
Oof.
Like, fuck everyone on the Board of Trustees and the Duffy Daugherty Building, but there's a whole community of people at MSU who deserve better than these clown-asses. Kudos at least to the State News for setting the example that People In Charge Of Things can't seem to do.
September 27th, 2023 at 8:04 PM ^
The BoT are publicly elected officials. The ultimate accountability for their actions rests with the voters. If we don't like what we see, we have the power do something about it.
September 27th, 2023 at 7:16 PM ^
This is going to be civil suit battle royale
Tucker v state
Tracy v state
tucker v tracy
tracy v tucker
September 27th, 2023 at 8:25 PM ^
Tucker and Dale v Evil
Alien v Predator
September 28th, 2023 at 12:00 AM ^
Ohio v the world
September 28th, 2023 at 9:32 AM ^
ohio v scott pilgrim
(which is clearly where this whole "ohio vs the world" thing came from. that and drugs. probably.)
September 28th, 2023 at 12:57 PM ^
It came from Detroit vs. Everybody.
September 29th, 2023 at 1:04 AM ^
Cyan Day vs 3rd Bass (the rap group) for copyright infringement.
September 28th, 2023 at 12:36 AM ^
Finkle v Einhorn
September 28th, 2023 at 9:56 AM ^
Hickory v South Bend Central
September 27th, 2023 at 7:18 PM ^
Why shouldn't they leak it? How else is it supposed to surface? Rather is should say that they revealed it. That is a whistleblower, is it not? Or should a trustee look the other way again like they did with Nassar? Hat tip to the trustee.
September 27th, 2023 at 7:20 PM ^
Leaking a victim’s name without their permission is a violation of ethical and legal norms.
September 27th, 2023 at 8:19 PM ^
....and considering we are talking msu, this is to be expected. Seemingly everything they do is akin to a circus, and that is being polite.
September 27th, 2023 at 8:28 PM ^
We're really stretching the word victim here.
September 28th, 2023 at 3:59 AM ^
I usually hang up the phone when this happens to me.
September 29th, 2023 at 1:06 AM ^
The comments above look like an MSU BoT text chat.
September 28th, 2023 at 9:33 AM ^
That's not at all what a whistleblower is.
September 27th, 2023 at 7:23 PM ^
If I ever came down with an STD (again??? Naw,) I'd CSI every toilet seat I'd ever been in contact with.
September 29th, 2023 at 1:07 AM ^
The absolute surest way to get an STD is to sit on a toilet (if the person before you hasnt got up yet)
September 27th, 2023 at 7:37 PM ^
Unclean hands (legally for the board, literally for Tucker)
I suspect this will give Tucker some good ammunition in a wrongful termination suit.
September 27th, 2023 at 8:07 PM ^
That’s an equitable defense in Michigan. Not sure how it would help Tucker. Maybe first material breach, but I haven’t read the contract in depth. Michigan does not have the implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing if I remember correctly.
September 27th, 2023 at 7:38 PM ^
On a slight tangent… exactly how many tax dollars is this BoT responsible to oversee? I believe the MSU budget is $ 3.3B. Yes, this exemplifies why so much governmental reform is needed.
September 27th, 2023 at 7:39 PM ^
the act itself is reprehensible and qualifies as a violation of his 'moral turpitude' clause.
who finds out about it beyond the title IX stuff is immaterial. there could be no reasonable expectation of that news not getting out, only that it might not get out so quickly - which in this case was what, 9+ months?
tugger gets $0. the leak is immaterial to the clause violation, especially when he full-on cops to what happened. sparty is a laughing stock, it's just more nationally known now.
September 27th, 2023 at 7:44 PM ^
Leaking her name without her permission is a big no-no.
September 27th, 2023 at 8:12 PM ^
the object of my post was tugger, not the woman. she may or may not have an increased damage issue, or she might not even sue.
the call of the question though was whether the sparty board leaking the name, if true, somehow gave tugger some leverage. it doesn't help him, or at most, just barely.
September 27th, 2023 at 7:48 PM ^
Are we so sure?
September 27th, 2023 at 8:09 PM ^
yes, i am sure that sparty is a laughing stock nationally....
September 28th, 2023 at 8:26 AM ^
Tucker will 100% get paid from MSU.. he won't be getting $75 million, but he's going to get paid. There's no way they let his atty's get access to emails and texts that went back and forth between trustees, admin and the athletic department during all of this mess.
I'm guessing he gets $20M or so to go away and let this all end. He is already a total POS in the public eye, MSU is trying to do damage control on their reputation by promptly firing him (while trying to save themselves from an insane contract and get rid of a horseshit coach)... Given the chance, he will drag this out and make public more details embarassing the university, they're going to pony up and prevent that from happening.
September 27th, 2023 at 7:43 PM ^
In fire fighting in the wilderness, I read that there is a concept that to fight a fire you set a fire. Crews would back burn towards the blaze to eliminate any fuel. Not sure if this was the idea.
With so much uncertainty and turmoil hard to imagine they'll have any serious candidates until all of this is definitively settled. ? Mid 2024?
September 27th, 2023 at 7:44 PM ^
Check comin
September 27th, 2023 at 7:52 PM ^
Did they light that pile of cash inside the MSU Union? Flames coming through the roof tonight. Not kidding, and not good.
https://twitter.com/helenmarinelaw/status/1707177594901188916/mediaviewer?mode=profile
Not withstanding the video, it was apparently not a fire. Could a fooled me
September 27th, 2023 at 7:55 PM ^
Is there anyone else other than Tracy or her lawyer confirming the leak?
- first she said that someone leaked
- then it came out that she was in fact the source and gave the green light to the story
- she’s now saying that someone leaked her name.
Has this been confirmed by a third party? I get that she wanted to get ahead of the story, but wouldn’t it have made sense for her to let the leak actually leak something publicly and immediately green light her story?
Could the scope of a FOIA even reach beyond msu emails, docs, or texts from university phones?
How realistic is it that the leak will come out in discovery if it’s not a board member?