Coaching Staff Changes if Weiss is Fired
If Weiss is fired after the investigation is complete, should Michigan hire a quarterbacks coach or should Harbaugh assume the responsibilities?
I would opt for the latter, move Sherrone Moore to the Offensive Coordinator role exclusively, shift Grant Newsome from TEs to OL coach, move Jay Harbaugh back to TEs while retaining special teams, and then bring back Chris Partridge as the Safeties coach. Partridge is a great recruiter so would be a huge asset after having so much on field success, and could bring immediate talent at corner from the transplant portal. A true freshman corner who started 9-10 games at Ole Miss just entered the portal and his primary reason for leaving was coaching uncertainty. His name is Davison Igbinosun and he was the number one recruit from New Jersey in 2022, so he definitely is a Partridge guy and would be a strong bet to follow him to Michigan if he joined the coaching staff again. This would be the last key piece to having a complete team next season.
Other thoughts on the staff make up if changes are necessary?
January 18th, 2023 at 8:43 PM ^
Make Jaybaugh QB coach. He’s succeeded in every role he’s had, and QB recruiting would no longer be an issue.
January 18th, 2023 at 9:37 PM ^
This is the way.
January 18th, 2023 at 8:50 PM ^
Lovie Smith & David Shaw are available.
January 18th, 2023 at 10:08 PM ^
and do you know their track record?
January 19th, 2023 at 5:54 AM ^
One led a Rex grossman team to the Super Bowl and the other is probably Stamford’s best coach*.
*He edges out Walsh and Harbaugh because of the length of his tenure in addition to his success
January 19th, 2023 at 8:04 PM ^
It's true Lovie smith had about 2 good years at Chicago. But look at him overall.
There is just no way David Shaw is the best coach ever at Stanford.
Come on.
January 18th, 2023 at 8:52 PM ^
I just hope Keith Morrison does the Dateline episode
January 18th, 2023 at 8:55 PM ^
Brandon Streeter formerly at Clemson.
- While his offense this year wasn't good and was inconsistent, it actually improved from 2021 in his one year at the helm as OC.
- Stud QB recruiter.
- Primary recruiter at Clemson for Davis.
Its easy to pass based on his one OC year and with DJs lack of development, but his overall track record and recruiting process are compelling if he can work with Moore and Harbaugh.
January 18th, 2023 at 9:40 PM ^
Do we know why Clemson fired him?
January 18th, 2023 at 11:02 PM ^
Streeter is a guy I immediately thought of because of his connection with Davis. He’d be another guy I wouldn’t mind seeing as QB coach/passing game coordinator and let Moore be the official offensive coordinator. Streeter amd Hart could have input on the passing and running game.
January 18th, 2023 at 8:59 PM ^
The ability and drive to recruit, and connect with prospects is important. While UM and other teams' coaches are on the road recruiting right now, Weiss is out of action suspended...
January 18th, 2023 at 8:59 PM ^
Tom Brady for QB coach. Make it happen Santa.
January 18th, 2023 at 9:46 PM ^
Yes. Even as a one year gimmick, why not. Tom can retire, become the qb coach, recruit the best qb in the next class, and then go find himself a new wife and really retire
January 18th, 2023 at 11:06 PM ^
“Find a new wife”?!!!!!!!
Why in the world would he do that?!!!!!!
January 19th, 2023 at 1:16 AM ^
Because he's Tom fucking Brady ?
January 19th, 2023 at 6:24 AM ^
Maybe Brady can just take the prospects to lunch at Bown Jug.
January 18th, 2023 at 9:23 PM ^
As long as he comes with a pear tree.
January 18th, 2023 at 9:39 PM ^
In one.
January 18th, 2023 at 9:23 PM ^
Not sure who should be the QB coach. But, in regards to the OL coach... assuming Moore is promoted to sole OC... is it possible for Moore to be the OC but also OL coach at the same time? Or is that asking for too much workload for Moore?
January 18th, 2023 at 9:45 PM ^
It seems to have been too much for Drevno?
January 18th, 2023 at 9:34 PM ^
I’d like to get Brian Griese on the staff. He seems like he has the skills to be a future head coach.
January 18th, 2023 at 10:29 PM ^
I'd like to get him as QB coach as well. What have you seen from him that makes you think has the skills to be a future head coach though? Isn't this his first year in coaching?
January 18th, 2023 at 11:45 PM ^
For real, he has been in the booth for several years now follwong his dads footsteps, and trying as hard as he possibly can to be over-critical of Michigan in order to appear unbiased, all up until this last year. I think this assumption he will be a great head coach has something to do with the similarities to another said coach who also played QB at Michigan, started for multiple NFL teams, and has a coaching career of his own that started coaching QB’s.
January 18th, 2023 at 9:36 PM ^
What about Soup Campbell? He's been the passing game coordinator/wide receivers coach under Scott Loeffler since 2019. We put out great receiver after great receiver while he was here.
January 18th, 2023 at 9:46 PM ^
No disrespect to Campbell, who has done good work in the past (here and Iowa), but he's a little long in the tooth at this point and Michigan can probably do better than someone from Loeffler's alumni band.
January 18th, 2023 at 9:44 PM ^
I like where you're going, UMVA, especially with that CB prospect in the Portal.
I kinda like moving Mimi up (Mike Mo's big sis) if possible. No way JH does it IMO.
I think the biggest thing we miss if Weiss needs to go bye-bye is that Madden kid/stats guy thing - that's what i think really needs to get replaced.
January 19th, 2023 at 9:08 AM ^
The idea of moving Mimi up crossed my mind as well since she seems to be the first person JJ talks to on the sideline, but one year of GA to QB coach is too big a step. The more traditional path would be to spend another year or two as a GA, then get a position coaching job at the G5 or FCS level before moving back up to P5 positional coaching. If she's as good as everyone says she is, she *might* be able to skip the lower-level coaching position OR skip the extra couple years as a GA, but not both. There's a learning curve to everything, and even extremely talented people need to take some time to figure out each level.
January 19th, 2023 at 9:27 AM ^
If we moved Moore to sole OC and Newsome to OL we could put Mimi at TE. It seems to be the position that is easiest to break in new coaches at (see Jaybaugh, Newsome)
January 18th, 2023 at 9:48 PM ^
Need to bring in someone for the passing game. In an otherwise awesome offense, the passing game seemed to be simplistic.
I’d bring in someone as a passing game coordinator and qb coach
January 18th, 2023 at 9:59 PM ^
I don't think it was simplistic. Underutilized maybe. But not simplistic. When they opened up the game things were usually there. But they rarely aired it out.
January 18th, 2023 at 9:49 PM ^
Feels kinda ghoulish to discuss hypotheticals involving someone losing their job.
I know it doesn't look good. But can we let it play out first?
January 18th, 2023 at 11:07 PM ^
Exactly correct.
January 18th, 2023 at 11:24 PM ^
Yes. It all seems ghoulish and disrespectful to a man who was an essential part of the team that brought Michigan to a level not seen in many years.
January 18th, 2023 at 9:53 PM ^
No one can predict the future
January 18th, 2023 at 9:55 PM ^
Weiss getting fired should not result in such a significant coaching reshuffling. My guess if we were to bring in a QB coach / new co-OC would be David Shaw
January 18th, 2023 at 10:03 PM ^
Kurt Warner is out there
Maybe Jim McElwain has had enough of being a head coach
January 18th, 2023 at 11:22 PM ^
Might not be enough sharks to hump here for McElwain
January 18th, 2023 at 10:19 PM ^
I don't get this place's obsession with Partridge as a coach. He was a good recruiter but I was never particularly impressed with the LBers or Safeties when he coached and I think the guys they have there (Jaybaugh and Helow) are doing well. There are a couple of guys on staff who underwhelm as recruiters so I get wanting to get a crack recruiter on the staff but Partridge doesn't feel like a good enough fit. I do think putting Moore as OC is the right move.
January 18th, 2023 at 10:35 PM ^
People didn't love weiss either. So wouldn't you love an elite recruiter back???? We need one
January 19th, 2023 at 12:57 PM ^
You can find good coordinators who are also good recruiters - Sherrone Moore is a great example. I thought the offense was much more coherent this year compared to the end of the Gattis run and in the end I tend to think a good coach can figure out how to recruit better than a good recruiter can figure out how to properly coach and gameplan.
January 18th, 2023 at 10:27 PM ^
Well, we will need to add someone. I think Weiss is gone. I think Jim showed his hand with the sudden courtship of Fioli. Davis really liked Weiss. With Davis dragging his feet even with Weiss he probably felt the need for a plan B knowing that his odds of getting him will drop.
January 18th, 2023 at 10:34 PM ^
Just do something quickly to change the narrative and move on. Hire shaw as a consultant. Saban style. High character guy. Then when Moore leaves, we have options next go round
January 18th, 2023 at 10:52 PM ^
A wildcard, Tim Lester.
January 18th, 2023 at 10:55 PM ^
Am I the only one that sometimes misses the Lloyd Carr era? Sure we went 8-4 every year and ran "HB Plunge" on 3rd and 8 but Ol' Lloyd was more likely to interview for the National Forensics League than the Vikings and his assistants probably didn't even possess computers.
January 18th, 2023 at 11:00 PM ^
I miss the elite receivers seemingly every year, and 1997, other than that the last two seasons have been better than any Carr era seasons.
January 18th, 2023 at 11:08 PM ^
MGrowOld and XtraMelin need to be hired.
January 19th, 2023 at 8:10 AM ^
and Magnus
January 18th, 2023 at 11:14 PM ^
please stop.
January 18th, 2023 at 11:32 PM ^
It could be as simple as…get a QB coach to replace Weiss!