AP: M #4. Heisman odds: Corum #4. Jimbo Fisher contract, apparently no buyout
The Heisman odds have it at a 2 man race now, CJ Stroud and Hendon Hooker. Blake Corum at 4th in the odds. It's a distant 4th though. Still time for him to move up. Maybe he can have a 200 yd, 5 TD day against State to move him up some. :-)
And finally, Jimbo Fisher in some very hot water. Fans, and maybe the suits in the Texas A&M world, want him out. But apparently, there was no buyout on his contract. The pitchforks and torches are out at College Station, Texas!
October 23rd, 2022 at 9:38 PM ^
It looks like Nick Saban is on a war path. I don't know if we can throw dirt on his grave just yet. But his defense does seems to be off.
October 23rd, 2022 at 3:19 PM ^
I wouldn't call the Heisman a two way race with those odds. It's Stroud's to lose unless something unexpected happens. Preferably on Nov 26.
October 23rd, 2022 at 5:33 PM ^
Everyone has their kryptonite ❄️
October 23rd, 2022 at 7:25 PM ^
Is that a snowflake or a cold virus particle?
October 23rd, 2022 at 8:54 PM ^
I do not advocate for bioterrorism, but everyone does have their kryptonite…
October 23rd, 2022 at 10:13 PM ^
Heisman race is a long way from settled. The oddsmakers do not vote. And the voters, while faaaar from perfect, *do* care about what happens on the field. And there's a lot of football between now and December.
It's pretty common that early favorites play just fine but that narrative guys or trend guys emerge later in seasons and become pretty significant threats to win. We know; Aidan was one such a player last year.
Stroud still has to earn it. And Hooker has a lot going for him.
October 23rd, 2022 at 3:21 PM ^
So, uh, Jimbo does have a buyout.
October 23rd, 2022 at 5:25 PM ^
It's not really a "buyout" so much as it's just his annual salary of 9.5m annually. No "buyout" meaning they're paying him every penny he's due if he never wins another game for 10 years. What a contract!
October 23rd, 2022 at 7:26 PM ^
Don't give them any ideas. Jimbo may have to get protective eyewear
October 23rd, 2022 at 3:29 PM ^
I'm standing by my guess that A&M don't even make a bowl game this year.
October 23rd, 2022 at 6:54 PM ^
At 3-4 that's a decent guess. I assume you are guessing that Melvin doesn't make a bowl game too?
October 23rd, 2022 at 11:35 PM ^
And to think that our own Desmond Howard picked A&M to make the playoff this season. Cumong, Des!
October 23rd, 2022 at 3:35 PM ^
That's a lot of snake oil and guaranteed money. For what little it's worth, did not think Stroud looked like all that yesterday. Blake Corum for Heisman !
October 23rd, 2022 at 4:09 PM ^
So there is a buyout? And a big one.
October 23rd, 2022 at 4:25 PM ^
Texas A&M is just the Texas version of MSU, both schools have little brother syndrome and both schools panicked at the possibility of their coach leaving for LSU after one good year.
October 23rd, 2022 at 6:24 PM ^
Since they share an agent, it’s increasingly obvious the agent floated the same fake LSU rumor to both schools and their local media outlets. At least TAM is filthy rich, MSU is legitimately broke.
October 23rd, 2022 at 6:55 PM ^
Except Texas is ALSO the Texas version of MSU.
October 23rd, 2022 at 11:40 PM ^
Not remotely accurate. UT is the flagship university in Texas with a much higher academic profile than Jimbo’s institution. UT is the Texas version of the University of Michigan.
MSU started out as Michigan Agricultural College, which makes it directly analogous to Texas Agricultural & Mechanical.
October 24th, 2022 at 7:17 AM ^
Absolutely, positively correct. I have family in Texas and the Texas versus A&M thing gets a little crazy at times.
October 23rd, 2022 at 4:31 PM ^
a post that’s 99% cut-pasted from twitter? yeah, it’s an ezekiel’s creatures joint.
October 23rd, 2022 at 5:57 PM ^
I enjoyed this post thoroughly.
I’m not on Twitter and don’t generally go looking for cfb stuff outside of Michigan. On a Sunday of the bye week this was entertaining.
October 23rd, 2022 at 10:36 PM ^
Dude is constantly quoting his Twitter account. It's gotten a bit old.
October 23rd, 2022 at 4:35 PM ^
The craziest thing I saw in one of the links that OP posted was a chart that showed Michigan as #2 in NIL money per player. That can't possibly be accurate, right? Sorry, I scrolled through it pretty quickly and can't recall where I saw it so maybe there was some context that I missed.
October 23rd, 2022 at 4:53 PM ^
That can't possibly be accurate, right?
Is it not possible that everyone on the board was bitching about Michigan's NIL program for no reason?
October 23rd, 2022 at 5:41 PM ^
I'm not sure exactly what you saw, but sadly, I think it was likely based on ON3's NIL rankings.
But these attempt to quantify how much each athlete deserves, based on their social media following and on field results. So, if you go here:
https://www.on3.com/nil/rankings/player/college/football/
you'll see that Bryce Young "deserves" 3.4 million and Blake Corum "deserves" about $800,000.
A website that tries to track how much each athlete is actually getting is nilauthority.com. Obviously they don't find every NIL deal, but you can still compare players to see the relative effectiveness of different institutions' NIL programs.
For example, follow the links below to compare Bryce Young's and Blake Corum's relative NIL deals.
Or rather don't. It won't make you happy.
October 23rd, 2022 at 6:07 PM ^
NIL Authority can’t possibly be accurate. It shows JJ McCarthy with 0 deals and $0 in NIL. It also shows Will Johnson with 0 deals/$0 and we know he has a deal with the restaurant group that runs The Morrie. It was detailed in the Freep multiple times since he arrived on campus.
It also doesn’t seem to track or care about any of the football cards/memorabilia deals that Valiant has for JJ and other M players.
October 23rd, 2022 at 6:57 PM ^
Pretty good chance Bryce Young is making at least that much.
October 23rd, 2022 at 7:32 PM ^
I don't know how to embed but I found the link. It's in one of the replies to the Dan Wolken tweet in the OP.
https://twitter.com/alcat1977/status/1584016718262718465?t=g51x4Wkepq2u…
I feel like, if this list had even an inkling of accuracy to it, we would have heard about it. I guess it's typical Twitter nonsense but someone actually put the time to put the graphics together and it seems maybe attributed to Action Network?
October 23rd, 2022 at 4:43 PM ^
I thought Sumlin was assembling a death star during his first year because the team was playing well and he was recruiting better than Texas. Jimbo didn't even start well.
October 23rd, 2022 at 5:06 PM ^
You always love it when a fairly modest guy like Sumlin gets shitcanned for a cornpone egomaniac like Jumbo and they retain the nincompoop replacement long after they had let the other guy go. Someone should do an article about instances of that--there seem to have been a tidy handful.
October 23rd, 2022 at 6:11 PM ^
They were going nowhere with Sumlin. His TAMU teams went 11-2, 9-4, 8-5, 8-5, 8-5 and 7-5. Their decision to fire him made sense. It was paying through the nose to get Jimbo that didn't.
October 23rd, 2022 at 6:58 PM ^
And 3-4 is better than that???
October 23rd, 2022 at 7:58 PM ^
Sorry, were the four sentences I typed too long for you to read?
October 24th, 2022 at 7:20 AM ^
I gave him the benefit of the doubt and assumed that the writer assumed that we would assume a /s
October 23rd, 2022 at 7:38 PM ^
I'm looking for one notable difference between Sumlin and Jimbo -- something explains why one gets a much longer leash in Texas -- and can't think of one.
Oh, wait.
October 23rd, 2022 at 7:48 PM ^
Well, he hasn't actually been there as long as Sumlin yet. Sumlin was there six years. This is Fisher's fifth.
But anyway, he went 83-23 at FSU and won a national title. They probably had to overpay to land him in the first place.
Then in 2020, his third season at Texas A&M, he went 9-1, won the Orange Bowl and finished #4 in the polls. Sumlin's best season was his first (11-2) and then he got stuck in a rut of five-loss seasons.
It's not shocking that they're paying him a lot of money. It's the length of the contract that is crazier, IMO. At this point it looks like it's the contract that's going to keep him around.
October 23rd, 2022 at 8:06 PM ^
You mean like Jimbo only being in his 5th year vs Sumlin who got six? Hows he had a "longer leash"?
October 23rd, 2022 at 8:06 PM ^
You mean like Jimbo only being in his 5th year vs Sumlin who got six? Hows he had a "longer leash"?
October 23rd, 2022 at 5:00 PM ^
I hope Stroud is the favorite - and a lot is made of that - going into The Game.
October 23rd, 2022 at 5:39 PM ^
In 1995, Eddie George won the Heisman despite Ohio State losing in Ann Arbor and OSU’s offense putting up barely 100 rushing yards.
Likewise, I think Stroud already has this trophy locked up regardless of what happens in our game.
The Heisman is basically the Quarterback Award now. In this age, I can’t imagine anyone but a QB winning it.
October 23rd, 2022 at 6:11 PM ^
Unfortunately youre probably right, and honestly I think Justin Fields was better than Stroud
October 23rd, 2022 at 6:42 PM ^
Sadly that is correct since the turn of the century, The Heisman has gone to the best QB on a good team or the best-skill position player at Alabama. Before that, it was spread among QBs, RBs, WRs/KR, and Charles Woodson.
DeVonta Smith - WR - 2020
Derrick Henry - RB - 2015
Mark Ingram Jr. - RB - 2009
Then you must go back to Ron Dayne in 1999 (Reggie Bush won it in 2005 and had to give it back).
October 23rd, 2022 at 11:01 PM ^
Stroud won’t win if Michigan wins in Columbus unless all the other candidates stumble through November.
Voters love a “Heisman Moment” and Stroud is racking up stats against scrubs. If his last pre-vote appearance is choking away a playoff appearance, he’ll be in New York politely clapping while someone else wins.
October 24th, 2022 at 10:12 AM ^
Stroud is racking up stats against scrubs
If you actually go through his games, he has like 6-8 TD passes in garbage time where there was no reason for him to be in the game besides to stat pad
October 23rd, 2022 at 6:24 PM ^
Jimbo Fisher is the ultimate snake oil salesman. How he suckered Texas A&M into paying him $95 million to lock their football program in purgatory for the next decade is beyond me. One of the worst sports-related deals any school has ever made.
What about the number 1 class in the nation? So many top prospects wasted.
October 23rd, 2022 at 6:26 PM ^
Maybe Walter Nolen will enter the portal...
October 23rd, 2022 at 7:14 PM ^
You got 300m handy?
October 23rd, 2022 at 7:13 PM ^
Ryan day stat padding otherwise hooker is by far the favorite
October 24th, 2022 at 10:14 AM ^
If you remove Stroud's between 6-8 garbage time TDs, this Heisman race looks a whole lot different