Michigan Stadium Tunnel to be named after Lloyd Carr
September 23rd, 2022 at 12:23 AM ^
Lloyd Carr troughs!!!
September 22nd, 2022 at 8:41 PM ^
Omg the myth of its Lloyd's fault started by Brian because he couldn't accept Rodriguez is a loser, good to see it will never die here.
September 22nd, 2022 at 10:43 PM ^
FINALLY someone else who's over LLLLoyd's shit.
I feel like everyone loves the guy but he has A LOT of blame on his shoulders for how the (almost) decade after he left went. He poured the gasoline, threw the lit match in, shut the door and walked away.
September 23rd, 2022 at 6:17 AM ^
you’re 100% full of shit.
and i swear to god, none of you fuckheads better boo him during the ceremony. grow up and shut the fuck up.
September 23rd, 2022 at 8:58 AM ^
Dude...calm down and take a breather.
September 23rd, 2022 at 7:52 AM ^
RichRod would have been a huge success at UM if only Lloyd Carr hadn't blackballed him. Well played my friend, well played.
September 23rd, 2022 at 12:35 PM ^
Let’s just stop naming things after people
September 23rd, 2022 at 6:59 PM ^
In winning a (partial) NC, Lloyd did a lot to uphold the tradition and prestige of Michigan football. And he was clairvoyant on RR. But wins or losses aside, his greatest contribution was his insistence on honesty and high moral direction for the program. For that I have no issue in naming a tunnel after him. Of course, this is likely to start a few tunnel vision jokes. So be it.
September 23rd, 2022 at 8:37 PM ^
"Welcome to Harbaugh Field, here at The Big House, where Michigan looks to extend it's streak to 12 in a row over the Buckeyes of Ohio. Hello ladies and gentlemen..."
September 22nd, 2022 at 4:44 PM ^
Let's say we will name it after him only if his grandson commits. That sounds ethical!
September 22nd, 2022 at 4:45 PM ^
Section 1 just had a stroke.
September 23rd, 2022 at 6:18 AM ^
just the latest of many.
September 22nd, 2022 at 4:45 PM ^
Cool story bro: I met Lloyd Carr once at a fundraiser at a bowling alley in Saline. I introduced myself as an alum, was glad to meet him etc. Then asked him a question about recruiting and what he looked for in a recruit... and..... I honestly have no recollection of what he said. Something about being a good athlete? I dunno. Much to my dismay, he didn't mention anything about starz.
September 22nd, 2022 at 4:49 PM ^
Never cared for Lloyd. Overrated
September 22nd, 2022 at 5:11 PM ^
He definitely had a full cupboard left by Moeller, but it still takes a very good coach to bring it all together.
September 22nd, 2022 at 6:00 PM ^
East side - very fair point about the cupboard. It’s really a pity that Carr “emptied it out” and left it practically bare for RR.
September 23rd, 2022 at 1:40 PM ^
Yeah Coach Mo left the team loaded, any coach could have followed him. When you saw you those 93 and 94 teams lose 4 games you knew the world was there for the taking. Lloyd proved how terrible he was by losing 4 games in both 95 and 96! Coach Mo would never have done that. Thankfully Mo and his former DC had that team stacked heading into 1997!
And don't get me started on DeBord and his dinoball. This fool used a defensive player on offense, what a knuckle dragger! Then he tried ruining the 2006 season by wasting so much time in the Spring with the Antonio Bass package. Like any of that would ever lead to a 60pt win vs Delaware State.
September 22nd, 2022 at 10:04 PM ^
Moeller is so underrated by Michigan fans.
September 22nd, 2022 at 11:05 PM ^
Yup, Moeller had the tenure we always say “what if” about. Assembled A1 talent.
September 23rd, 2022 at 7:20 AM ^
Old School.. I have always appreciated Moeller, and.. how I wished that one evening never took place.
No huddle offense, silent counts, solid D with aggressive O.
We lost Moeller this summer - but, oh how I looked forward to fall Saturdays when he was head coach.
September 22nd, 2022 at 5:21 PM ^
How can you say that about the coach that helped bring about our last national championship?? He may not have been ideal but he was good enough and certainly doesn't deserve your dismissal.
September 22nd, 2022 at 6:18 PM ^
He did more harm on his way out and after than he should have for such a “beloved” coach. He was a good coach but Charles Woodson probably had more to do with that title than him. I don’t mean to be dismissive of him, I really don’t. I liked the guy, I just think our fan base overrates him
September 22nd, 2022 at 5:46 PM ^
Lloyd overrated
You like Harry better
September 22nd, 2022 at 4:51 PM ^
I an not a fan of Lloyd. I appreciate that he was coach in 97 and had a decent record against Cooper led OSU teams. Outside of that? Boring football that held Michigan back and he seems to be a bit petty. I get it, so am I.
September 22nd, 2022 at 4:59 PM ^
Tend to agree. He opened it up in his final game and absolutely destroyed a Urban/Tebow-led Florida team. Made one wonder what could have been if he had employed that same offensive philosophy throughout his tenure.
September 22nd, 2022 at 4:54 PM ^
Part of me has gotten over the way that Carr treated Rich Rod when he got here
Part of me Loves Lloyd for the way he stayed devoted to Michigan
So whatever. I'm changing my name to the Gary Moeller official Darker Blue name for greatness*
* Sponsored by Kraft Noodles
September 22nd, 2022 at 4:55 PM ^
Will the tunnel only really be used in the fourth quarter when we desperately need it like Lloyd’s downfield passing attack? Hey-yo! I kid I kid.
September 22nd, 2022 at 7:12 PM ^
If its use will be tied to adequate defense against running QBs, it will be used ... never.
From Donovan McNabb to Armanti Edwards ... consistency.
September 22nd, 2022 at 4:55 PM ^
Seeing these responses, I’m starting to understand why CJ picked the Irish. Yikes
September 22nd, 2022 at 5:02 PM ^
Maybe CJ picking Notre Dane stoked the Lloyd flames a bit more
September 22nd, 2022 at 5:02 PM ^
I know what you mean but these are a few posters and I don't think majority feels that way. They are naming a very important and sentimental tunnel after his grandfather. So, if he didn't commit because of a few comments as opposed to how much the university values his grandfather, I don't think the kid got it right. It sounds like it is for other reasons though.
September 22nd, 2022 at 6:19 PM ^
Yeah, I don't understand the Lloyd hate. He has two major blemishes on his record - App State and he couldn't beat Tressel. But he won a lot of games, had Michigan in B1G contention every year, won multiple B1G titles, went to several Rose Bowls, signed great recruiting classes and won a national title.
RichRod failed here because he was a sleazy guy and a bad coach for a big program. Lloyd's support/non-support had little impact on that.
Carr deserves to be honored.
September 22nd, 2022 at 6:34 PM ^
He also couldn’t beat USC. He was a disaster in big games. Most importantly, he wrecked the program on his way out.
September 22nd, 2022 at 8:33 PM ^
Well so was Bo and virtually every other post-war coach we’ve had save for Fritz Crisler. That says nothing about him and more about the continuity in philosophy in culture within the program. Bo was worse, perpetually blowing shots at national titles and falling short in Rose Bowls and in the biggest moments. His teams were rarely clutch. Does that make Bo a bad coach? No, but he was not an elite coach as many Michigan faithful believe. He was good and consistent, which is pretty good in the grand scheme of things. In fact, Lloyd matched or surpassed him in every way save for one: longevity. As an aside, the the cream-of-the crop that the program developed under Carr outshined any of Bo’s players in terms of historical significance in the NFL.
September 22nd, 2022 at 9:37 PM ^
The Lloyd hate RR love is totally inappropriate. I didn’t read the Bacon book but car was a great position coach for years and years and won us a National Championship. Mallet Schmallet. RR was a scumbag who left his alma mater for a paycheck. He failed on his own. What an awful fan base we have. Booing Cade, trashing Carr…. Disgusting.
September 22nd, 2022 at 9:55 PM ^
“RichRod failed here because he was a sleazy guy”.
This is revisionism - I have no idea what RR did or did not do at Michigan, or if he exhibited any of what caught up to him in AZ, but he pretty clearly got canned because he didn’t win enough football games, not because UM was some sort of paragon of virtue.
September 23rd, 2022 at 9:46 AM ^
You should ask the barmaid at Dan's Downtown Tavern in Saline about just how sleazy Dick Rod was...
September 22nd, 2022 at 7:00 PM ^
Honestly, what you’re reading has nothing to do with why CJ picked the Irish. That sucks but I’m surprised what I’m reading. I thought everyone loved Lloyd Carr.
September 23rd, 2022 at 6:20 AM ^
totally. these are the the people that booed cade.
September 22nd, 2022 at 4:57 PM ^
Naming a tunnel? Why?
Can we name the nacho dip in the cafeteria after RR?
September 22nd, 2022 at 5:03 PM ^
The Brady Hoke Breakfast Buffet
September 22nd, 2022 at 5:10 PM ^
He gets "The Rich Rodriguez and Josh Groban Karaoke Lounge"
September 22nd, 2022 at 7:36 PM ^
That’s already named after Ms. Rita.
September 22nd, 2022 at 5:02 PM ^
Jesus Christ, people are still bitching about Rich Rod?
He sucked. He lost because was a bad coach, not because Lloyd Carr was mean to him. Get over it.
September 22nd, 2022 at 5:08 PM ^
No shit. I’m surprised the coach of the worst Michigan teams in my lifetime has so many defenders. Perhaps Lloyd knew RR would be an embarrassment at Michigan. There were some red flags regarding RR’s football theory and otherwise.
September 22nd, 2022 at 6:44 PM ^
Mgoblog during the RichRod era was my first experience of an internet mob that could not tolerate the slightest dissent from the party line.
September 22nd, 2022 at 10:32 PM ^
Peanut Butter Jelly Time
September 23rd, 2022 at 12:02 AM ^
I thought about writing some 500-word screed that would have been much less effective than this comment. You got to the heart of it here.