Gov Extends Michigan's Stay-at-home Order to 5/28
No need to elaborate. There you have it.
Link to article;https://upnorthlive.com/news/local/governor-whitmer-extends-michigans-stay-at-home-order-until-may-28
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You made this ridiculous post in another thread. First, we're talking about a month or two here. We're not talking about isolating forever. Also, going out and exposing yourself to the virus so you are ready for when the same virus hits again in the fall makes no sense. It's like shooting yourself in the face so you don't get killed by someone with a gun.
Maybe you should try drinking Lysol too.
Geez wonder where you get your news
I swear, one of the good things about these daily threads is it easily lays bare who paid attention during biology class and who didn't. So thank you for that.
Seriously. These people who don't want to abide by the order should be banned from medical treatment. It's bullshit that someone like that could potentially take my "spot" were I to get sick, while I'm doing everything I'm supposed to.
Well if you're following the edict then why should you get sick?
St Joe - I wish I had 10 more up-votes to throw your way!
Because the order does not ban leaving your home. It only limits trips to those that are necessary. Those that follow the order will still experience exposure. My wife has to go to work at a hospital and has been directly exposed several times, this is all while adhering to the stay in place executive order. The whole point of the order is to curtail frivolous travel as to limit, not eliminate, exposure.
Because statistical probabilities are known to exist.
Yeah, I disagree with you.
I have news for you, people engage in high risk and sometimes illegal activity everyday and will still get medical treatment. Smoking, eating unhealthy food, drugs, driving drunk and getting in car accidents, prisoners, crooks getting shot while breaking the law, and the list goes on. Right or wrong, these people will be prioritized the same as you. This mentality is not new with covid. Innocent people pay for the mistakes of others, it’s called society. All you can do is try and do the best for you and your family, it does no good to worry about the rest.
There's a great attitude for a doctor "Worry about yourself and f everyone else." Pray I am never in your ER.
You are a true inspiration. A walking testament to the saying "not all heroes wear capes".
Just stay home forever. Seriously why take the chance. Do your part and stay home/stay safe/ stay scared
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I don't get this attitude at all. Lifetime smokers are allowed to get lung cancer treatments. Drunk drivers are treated in the ER when they crash their car. We send search and rescue teams out to find boaters and mountaineers who are in trouble. Drug addicts and people who attempt suicide treated as well.
If you're going to use the argument that people should shut up and do as they're told for the good of society, then you should also acknowledge that society still cares for those who end up in dangerous medical situations out of their own decisions. "We're all in this together" doesn't just apply when people are acting the way you want them to.
Well, for one, you can't catch ling cancer from someone who has it. And two, Drunk drivers should be left to die.
Not a problem, if you get in an accident while driving, which is way more dangerous than what I am choosing to do, take your own advice.
It’s idiots like you that are the reason these orders have to get extended.
Not sure if you are sarcastic. A basic understanding of psychology means it’s anti-maskers that are afraid. Another basic understanding of psychology means anti-maskers will reject any such idea.
“To some, wearing a mask means admitting a fear they may not have consciously confronted yet, said David Abrams, a clinical psychologist and professor of social and behavioral science at New York University's School of Global Public Health.
Many view the mask as a walking symbol of vulnerability that tells others you're scared about contracting the virus. So to compensate for that fear, and as a show of strength, they may reject the masks entirely, he said.
To the people who choose not to wear them, "Putting on that mask is about as blatant as saying, 'Hey, I'm a scaredy cat,'" Abrams said.”
This is like saying not wearing sunscreen is proof that you're afraid of the sun or that not wearing a seatbelt is proof that you're terrified of car crashes. Just an utterly ridiculous thing to say. Did you find this on a satire website?
That is not what his comment says at all. Read the whole thing and not just the last paragraph
I read the whole thing. It's ridiculous in its entirety and a blatant lie intended to get more people to wear masks.
Ok, I’ll make the following correction to my post. It takes more than a “basic understanding” of psychology.
Probably ShitPost woops I mean huffpost.
I give her credit - she doesn't seem to care all that much about the Call of Duty cosplayers and their attempts to intimidate her.
This is the right decision and one I see a lot of states doing. It's a measured, systematic reopening of the states with an eye on not suffering another explosion of cases.
She is a puppet. She only does what she is told by her handlers.
all these folks that aren't going to listen to this, isn't it 'their body, their choice'? if they get sick you don't care, right? you stayed home, you're good, tough luck for the cosplay (no idea what that word means, but it must be important) guys.
Their choice affects a lot of other people.
but how? if i want to stay home, unless the cosplay guys are breaking into the house, aren't i safe? and we all know that, assuming the hospitals aren't overwhelmed, we aren't going to prevent them from getting sick, we're just delaying it and it makes no difference.
The people violating the orders are more likely to spread the disease. So when they buy groceries they are putting those workers at risk, for example. And those workers have families, maybe it's your teenage kid...
Like, people live in a damn society and should act like it. Things are connected.
well they're going to buy groceries anyway. and if the workers are at risk or don't feel comfortable working (certainly understandable) then they just keep quarantined. or aren't they allowed to do that?
No! My wife worked with a janitor at the hospital who caught COVID and died. He could not stay home because he would not have enough money to pay his rent or other bills and he did not qualify for unemployment. He had no choice but to keep working and paid with his life. He was 41 years old. Some people are forced to stay in jobs that expose them to COVID. You can do you part and minimize their exposure.
and with genuine sympathy for a lost life, his body, his choice. nobody forced him to go to work. further, there is no scenario that keeps him away from the virus. none, unless he takes a sterile launch into space. our issue is slow it down to not overwhelm the hospitals, it can never and will never be 'not one life lost'.
So he should have choose to live on the streets in March in Michigan. The really sad part of the story is that he actually lived on the streets for years, pulled himself up by his bootstraps, got clean, got a decent job and then was left with the choice of throwing all that away or be constantly exposed to COVID by cleaning COVID patient's rooms. There is no choice in that situation. There are so many others in similar situations and some folks, like you, just shrug and dismiss the consequences of their actions because of "choice". It is a spineless way to pass the buck.
I'm glad covid cured the flu. Almost nobody has died from the flue in three months. Amazing praise Allah! Also, death rates are below last year. Praise, praise!
My wifes' friends father just spent two weeks in the hospital with Covid. The whole family got it but we figured he probably got it from his teenage son who was still working his job at Burger King. So yes, these things do spread like that.
So if the government didn't tell us to stay at home, you think people will suddenly stop washing their hands, wearing masks, and will just spread the disease everywhere all of a sudden as if everything is back to normal? hmmm . . . that's an interesting perspective.
I didn't realize such a large percentage of the population were irresponsible mindless idiots. I just assumed that people might still be cautious in general and use common sense without the government trying to come up with a guideline for every activity. Plus if you're at home and following all guidelines that are so dear to your heart then you wouldn't get sick anyway. Fuck me I guess . . .
I didn't realize such a large percentage of the population were irresponsible mindless idiots.
Welcome. You must be new on this planet.
I get the whole "there are so many idiots out there" trope. It's a nice way to feel better about your position and chalk up all of the worlds problems to "those idiots out there". In reality, you don't have to have a huge IQ to have some common sense. There is certainly a small % of morons who are very loud and that the new likes to cover. That said, 99% of folks are likely able to take reasonable precautions on their own. Even idiots typically don't want to get sick or die. Plus the same people who think everyone else is an idiot are also the ones who say "listen to the experts" and clearly rely on lots of competent people existing.
the sparty alumni base is expanding...
I know you think that your “their body, their choice” argument is some great gotcha, but doesn’t it work both ways? I’m pretty sure that in other contexts you don’t believe that. Doesn’t that put some onus on you to explain why it is a valid argument here, but an invalid argument in another context in which it is used?
Yet another dumb example in a long list of dumb comparisons we’ve heard. Abortions and swimming pools and cancer and heart attacks and car accidents aren’t contagious. They don’t spread through a community.
No, but she does care about the MONEY:
The automotive industry contributes a total of $225 billion to the state’s economy, according to a 2019 Economic Contribution study by MICHauto. Of that $225 billion, 83% is directly attributed to automotive manufacturing.
She didn't have a choice. The Big 3 announced they were restarting manufacturing in Michigan on Tuesday and - voila! - Wretched Gretchen scheduled a press conference to give them permission to do so! Once again, leading from behind.
Your statement isn't wrong, but they announced they were going to start working on 5/18, which was after the existing 5/15 end date. Her announcement, today, merely let the supply base start working on 5/11 to support the 5/18 start date.
Meanwhile Ohio says "YOLO!"
I wonder who's going to win... though I guess that depends on how you define "win". From a sociological perspective, this all is pretty interesting.
Given that Grand Rapids is in the middle of the exponential part of the curve right now, it's the right call. If you do regional splits that's just going to encourage a ton of travel (people flocked to Georgia over the weekend, for example) and further spread things.
Frustrating though.