OT - Max Bullough questioned at combine
Dave Birkett @davebirkett 40m
Asked specifically if he failed a drug test, as is the rumor, Bullough declined to answer
Josh Katzenstein @jkatzenstein 25m
Michigan State LB Max Bullough said he weighed in at 249, down from 265 at the East-West Shrine game.
Between the buzz that every NFL team knows that this the Rose Bowl suspension was a result of a failed drug test and the drastic weight loss in a month and a half, the picture is starting to become clearer.
February 22nd, 2014 at 4:01 PM ^
Paula Pasche had what appears to be part of the interview up here. The audio is a bit rough, but it seems like he claims to have told NFL teams about it, which he claims is "a different matter", whatever that means. Tout videos loop, I believe, so watch the first one only....
February 22nd, 2014 at 4:18 PM ^
February 22nd, 2014 at 4:54 PM ^
Exercise?
February 22nd, 2014 at 4:59 PM ^
February 22nd, 2014 at 6:32 PM ^
February 22nd, 2014 at 6:32 PM ^
"Hey... you wanna lose 20 pounds fast?"
"Yes!"
"Like, really fast?"
"Yes!"
"Like, right now?"
"Yes! Oh, please!"
"Alright then, well, the chainsaw's over here..."
February 22nd, 2014 at 4:24 PM ^
And the program caught it before the leaugue did, which allowed them to suspend him without having to dilvulge the reason.
This is the only logical explanation - If it were a crime he committed, I could only see Dantonio suspending him for something serious when there's a Rose Bowl at stake. There was no documentation of any criminal matter anywhere, so it doesnt appear that a crime was committed.
If Dantonio would've allowed him to play after a failed PED test, or if the league caught it, then the team and program's reputation would've been questioned. Suspending him was necessary and was the right thing to do.
February 22nd, 2014 at 6:36 PM ^
The only thing I'd change is your last sentence...as it was the "only" thing they could do. Otherwise, they never would've suspended him. He could've killed somebody and he would've been on the field.
February 22nd, 2014 at 10:02 PM ^
February 22nd, 2014 at 4:30 PM ^
I'd like to lose 16 pounds
February 22nd, 2014 at 4:39 PM ^
Go hike the John Muir Trail this summer. I promise you'll lose at least that in 3 to 4 weeks.
February 22nd, 2014 at 4:54 PM ^
February 22nd, 2014 at 5:31 PM ^
February 22nd, 2014 at 8:24 PM ^
February 23rd, 2014 at 7:20 AM ^
February 23rd, 2014 at 10:39 AM ^
disagree. i hiked the JMT last summer and lost between 15 and 20 pounds over exactly 3 weeks. when you're hiking ~12 miles a day with 40 lbs on your back at high elevation with significant eleveation gains and losses every day, you simply cannot take in (or carry!) enough calories to maintain weight.
and i wasn't exactly a big dude to start with or anything. starting at 5'9" 170lbs, losing that much weight represents a pretty significant percentage.
February 22nd, 2014 at 5:02 PM ^
Just looked it up. Seems dangerous but count me in.
February 23rd, 2014 at 10:39 AM ^
just watch out for the bears, you'll be fine.
February 22nd, 2014 at 5:01 PM ^
February 22nd, 2014 at 5:12 PM ^
Lost in the most recent baseball PED thing was the fact that all of these guys had been passing every MLB drug test all along. MLB came down hard on them but I think it was a lot of show to cover for the fact that they couldn't detect them at all without a whistle-blower. Max just needs to get on a better program..
February 22nd, 2014 at 9:54 PM ^
...on them at all, except by their own extraordinarily low standards. A 162 game suspension in baseball is less than half of the two year USOC suspension for a first time minor offense.
February 22nd, 2014 at 5:21 PM ^
February 22nd, 2014 at 5:56 PM ^
February 23rd, 2014 at 6:34 AM ^
February 22nd, 2014 at 5:32 PM ^
Failed drug test folloed by immediately by a loss of 16lbs. doesn't necessarily equate to PED use. He could have been smoking dope, stopped when he got caught and no longer had the munchies.
February 22nd, 2014 at 5:42 PM ^
When you are that active (as college football players are), the "munchies" are not going to add that much weight. Especially once you add in the fact that he was in great shape and not fat.
February 23rd, 2014 at 6:11 AM ^
/s. Ugh.
February 22nd, 2014 at 5:42 PM ^
At least we know it's not cocaine...
February 22nd, 2014 at 5:44 PM ^
February 22nd, 2014 at 5:34 PM ^
February 22nd, 2014 at 5:39 PM ^
I don't think it's PEDs. I've heard from a fairly confident source that he had Oxy in his system.
February 22nd, 2014 at 5:43 PM ^
The only thing that seems odd is how he has lost 16 pounds in such a short time frame. He obviuosly is still working out because he wants to be drafted. So what has changed that has made him lose so much weight? It isn't the stoppage of using Oxy.
February 22nd, 2014 at 5:51 PM ^
There is no greater weight loss inducer than stress. Bullough was captain of the best Spartan team in forever, a renowned All-America LB, the face of Spartan football for 3 years, and 3rd generation legacy. Pissing that all away by embarrassing the school and himself, putting his team's image in jeopardy, and likely costing himself a few bucks in the draft probably brought on a hefty dose of stress.
February 22nd, 2014 at 7:44 PM ^
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February 22nd, 2014 at 5:45 PM ^
February 22nd, 2014 at 5:52 PM ^
Seriously.
February 23rd, 2014 at 1:57 AM ^
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February 22nd, 2014 at 6:14 PM ^
Knowing nothing other than the posting history of Read your Guard I believe him. He's not one to post rumor and innuendo unless it's extremely well sourced rumor and innuendo.
Serioulsy though I dont think I've ever read a rumor posted by RYG so that's good enough for me. And his take on stress related weight loss is extremely accurate too. More so than a missed cycle of roids causing that extreme of weight loss. Because the flip side to weight loss when under stress is weight gain and I'm pretty sure max didnt play this season as heavy as he weighed in at during the Shriine game.
February 22nd, 2014 at 10:11 PM ^
The steroid thesis is absolutely viable though. As one who works in physical science and research I'd be confident that his sort of weight loss could certainly occur with cycles cut since December. In that time framed his muscle mass would slowly start to decrease (every day each of us are either adding or subtracting) without the PED and at his size 6-7% in 8 weeks is reasonable.
Guy should man up and answer the question but aim sure he doesn't want the world to know that team were " Spartan Frauds" like the Mandarich era.
February 22nd, 2014 at 6:23 PM ^
much of the conjecture in this thread, at least with respect to PED's and some other illicit substances, is that the B10 did, in fact, test everyone on the travelling roster for the B10 Title game (including Bullough)...That was how Spence got his 3-game suspension for, as he essentially put it, "getting slipped a micky!"
February 22nd, 2014 at 6:25 PM ^
an asshole for hoping he gets busted and this, at a minimum, casts a very dark cloud over the entire MSU football program?
February 22nd, 2014 at 6:27 PM ^
February 22nd, 2014 at 6:32 PM ^
So we've gone from one guy taking drugs to an entire University being complicit?
Okay.
February 22nd, 2014 at 10:12 PM ^
February 22nd, 2014 at 10:21 PM ^
Malik's Momma was right.
February 23rd, 2014 at 6:33 AM ^
February 22nd, 2014 at 6:49 PM ^
Who is giving this dunce advice? Certainly not anyone smart. So now he's letting other people control his life instead of him standing up, explaining himself fully, then all is forgiven, let's move on.
Why is this sooooo top seceret? It's not something criminal or else there would be a police investigation. So just come clean one time and try to get your reputation back.