Arizona v. BC: Advocare 100 Bowl
Didn't see a thread on this. Arizona up 21-6 at half. Pretty impressive to see what Arizona is doing with a QB that didn't receive a single scholarship offer at any level in high school.
Also, Ken Griffey, Jr. (whose son plays for Arizona) has a very nice Nikon set-up on the sidelines.
December 31st, 2013 at 5:11 PM ^
December 31st, 2013 at 5:14 PM ^
2011 was all Lloyd's guys
/s/
December 31st, 2013 at 5:20 PM ^
Quit with your ''talent'' argument. I bet most of the players on our team were ranked a lot higher in recruiting rankings than Arizona's. It's called developing players, something our coaches can't do.
December 31st, 2013 at 6:31 PM ^
This post is truly insane and I see you have already been fisked accordingly.
You might as well revert to the inane "He's a good coach but just didn't fit in here" meme. It's all the anti-RR people will have left soon.
January 1st, 2014 at 10:21 AM ^
Michigan appears to be further back at this point than Zona. I think that much can be said.
You're inarguably the most clueless poster on these boards. I think that much can be said.
December 31st, 2013 at 3:57 PM ^
December 31st, 2013 at 4:01 PM ^
You are a superb troll.
December 31st, 2013 at 4:06 PM ^
For some, "vindication" must mean a national championship.
I think of "vindication" in terms of his proving that he is not a bad coach; that he should never be judged as a 3-8 coach; and the publication of a book that more or less documented how horribly he was treated in his last job.
I have a very hard time knowing what to wish for; that Rodriguez is so successful at Arizona that he remains there (with successively more lucrative contract extensions) for the rest of his career, or that his success brings offers at better football schools that he cannot possibly refuse, and we see him again at an elite football power school.
December 31st, 2013 at 3:37 PM ^
It appears we're going in the wrong direction.
December 31st, 2013 at 3:37 PM ^
RR runs a fun offense to watch- I love seeing his teams play, its fast, anything is possible, and its exciting. Football shoud be fun to watch. I don't find Hoke's team entertaining at all, he loses in a boring, frustrating way. I can take a loss or two if it was fun. I am starting to think maybe RR was right when he said UM was on the verge of exponential growth in his last season here.
December 31st, 2013 at 3:41 PM ^
said his team was on the verge? Jim Schwartz.
Hoke and RichRod both did not do or are doing great jobs at Michigan. Both left a lot to be desired. Saying one did better than the other is to ignore the reality.
December 31st, 2013 at 3:37 PM ^
Its sad to say, but I think RichRod's Zona team could beat us right now.
December 31st, 2013 at 3:44 PM ^
RichRod didn't fit here and it remains to be seen if he will be great at Zona. But it looks like he is making good progress. It's a bitter pill for Michigan fans to swallow to see two straight coaches fail, but that is what we are facing.
December 31st, 2013 at 5:09 PM ^
December 31st, 2013 at 5:43 PM ^
BUT HE WON 12 GAMES AT BALL STATE!!! yeah I mean, he did lose the championship game and only had one winning season for the other 5 years there.... but THIS IS MICHIGAN.
/s
December 31st, 2013 at 5:23 PM ^
then why did you decide to post (repeatedly) on a thread that you knew was certain to be pro-RichRod? You can't possibly presume you will be changing minds?
There can only be two reasons: (1) you hate RichRod and feel the need to tell us ad nauseam--believe me something we know all too well, or (2) you get pleasure from raining on a parade, er, trolling.
Truly these are moments when silence would be the better course of valor.
December 31st, 2013 at 3:43 PM ^
"i don't advoCARE about this game" ? yet?
or
"i advo-don't-care about this game"
they should have
December 31st, 2013 at 3:45 PM ^
Mark May and Lou arguing whether 3-3-5 works. What was Arizona ranked in defense this year? They still weren't very good.
December 31st, 2013 at 4:00 PM ^
Arizona defense was ranked 25th in Defense +/- FEI rating and 20th in FEI defensive rating. So they're pretty good this year.
December 31st, 2013 at 4:19 PM ^
December 31st, 2013 at 3:48 PM ^
and alot of you people are revisionist idiots, sadomasochists, or both.
the worst development of the year has been the constant comparisons between michigan and RR. this place was 95% more pro-rr than anything else on the internet, and the only one upset over the firising was His Dudeness, or whatever ... everyone else saw it coming - even brian.
by the way, he was fired because he had the worst defense in the history of michigan football, was blown out by rivals, and let wisconsin run the ball 40 straight times. (seriously, does anyone remember that wisconsin game or are you all living in bizarro-world, where rr was a successful coach at michigan but somehow got ran out of town...?)
he is doing mediocre at arizona, but so what? he failed at michigan, for almost all reasons that were his fault; whatever he does at arizona will not affect that fact one way or the other.
December 31st, 2013 at 3:51 PM ^
Hey Man, you're harshing my buzz.
December 31st, 2013 at 4:04 PM ^
You know how many times AZ has won more than 8 games in the last 20 seasons? Exactly once, when they went 12-1 back in 1998.
Which means for Arizona, he's doing pretty well in his first two seasons, and for them, it's far better than "mediocre."
December 31st, 2013 at 4:17 PM ^
December 31st, 2013 at 4:18 PM ^
December 31st, 2013 at 9:23 PM ^
The spread will never work in the Big Ten. We play Manball here.
December 31st, 2013 at 4:19 PM ^
The difference between RR's defense at Michigan, and Michigan's current defense... is what exactly?
December 31st, 2013 at 4:21 PM ^
Arizona is a great place to have a mediocre defense because its miles better than what they had been seeing before RR's arrival.
December 31st, 2013 at 4:56 PM ^
Greg Robinson leaves and Greg Mattison arrives.
If RR had Mattison—or Casteel—when he was at Michigan, my guess is that he's still coaching here. But he made the singularly disastrous choice of bringing GERG onboard, and he was a dead man walking defensively from then on.
Water under the bridge for me. I think AZ is a better place for RR than Michigan, if for no other reason he doesn't have labor under 125 years worth of high-falutin' tradition and all the expectations that went with it.
December 31st, 2013 at 5:06 PM ^
December 31st, 2013 at 5:22 PM ^
Our defense sucked ass this year. I wouldn't be calling Mattison so great right now.
December 31st, 2013 at 7:40 PM ^
better watch out the Hoke apologists will get you!
December 31st, 2013 at 4:24 PM ^
What is 8-5, no wait, 7-6 at Michigan?
Doesn't make me feel better.
December 31st, 2013 at 5:54 PM ^
Held opponents 5 points under their season average this year. Michigan's D....2 points.
So I would say he's doing a hell of a lot better right now at Arizona than Brady Hoke is doing at Michigan
December 31st, 2013 at 7:02 PM ^
"... for almost all reasons that were his fault ..."
Now, *that* is some revisionist history.
December 31st, 2013 at 9:40 PM ^
January 1st, 2014 at 10:24 AM ^
And yet so many of us are still trying to argue with you.
December 31st, 2013 at 7:20 PM ^
You Fail to mention that for the lack of a measly 5 grand & a contract offer, RR could have brought his Def Coord. with him. Compare that to the salaries & other arrangements for the current staff. Hoke has been given the Red Carpet treatment while his predecessor had one roadblock after another strewn in his path. Bah Humbug to you Sir !
December 31st, 2013 at 4:23 PM ^
Hoping for better from Hoke.
I guess that's all I can say.
December 31st, 2013 at 4:37 PM ^
Brandon is just an ex-Bain guy who never ran anything until he was planted as CEO in one of their acquisitions. At Domino's, he was the guy who poured ketchup on cardboard and called it pizza.
He's a bum. Guys I knew said he always was a self-promoting bum.
Now we're stuck with Hoke until Brandon decides whether he wants to try to be governor of the state.
December 31st, 2013 at 5:56 PM ^
December 31st, 2013 at 4:48 PM ^
I read through this and see people bashing RR for going 8-5 with Arizona. Some of the same people I see supporting Hoke for going 7-6 at Michigan.
smh
December 31st, 2013 at 5:01 PM ^
Congrats to RichRod and long live the spread-n-shred offense!
December 31st, 2013 at 5:01 PM ^
Why am I not surprised this game garnered 159 comments?
RR is doing well in Arizona; I think Hoke will do well at UM. We need to let it go.
December 31st, 2013 at 5:04 PM ^
December 31st, 2013 at 6:32 PM ^
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December 31st, 2013 at 5:55 PM ^
If Michigan had hired a good football coach and not a glorified cheerleader who spouts Bo quotes every time you pull the string on his back, and who's idea of coaching players up is 'hope they execute the gameplan"
December 31st, 2013 at 6:35 PM ^
He's better than that. Hoke is a competent coach who can recruit and should be more successful going forward. He may even be an "elite" coach in the way that guys who can take advantage of lots of strengths can be elite. I'm fine with that. I also don't think RR was some savior who was going to win multiple MNCs at UM. But the bitching around here that RR was a no-talent hack flies in the face of all evidence, and that's always been my issue with that line of thought. A guy doesn't win 100+ games by dumb luck.
December 31st, 2013 at 5:53 PM ^
I love the Rich Rod offense. When it's humming it really is a thing of beauty. It's up tempo, exciting to watch, any play can go the distance, good run-pass balance, etc. Now it appears they have a decent D as well. I really like where Rich is taking the Arizona football program.
December 31st, 2013 at 7:40 PM ^
Apparently better talent there or he just took hold better there since he's had back to back 8-5 seasons. Maybe getting Casteel really made that big of a difference to him.
Hope he does well but I'd also be happy to never hear about him ever. Just win a lot out there in the desert Rich and don't tell me about it