Trey Burke Update
Well, a few hours ago Brian posted on Twitter according to a source that Trey was having a change of heart and also the Free Press shared the same story. Apparently in the last hour or so on twitter, pictures of Trey Burke's dorm room have been posted and unfortunately all his bags have been packed. I think it is safe to say he is gone.
Link to the picture: https://twitter.com/#!/nrothschild3/status/187762662606782465/photo/1
should not care about whether or not certain players' actions throw the team into disarray - they should care only about the careers of those players. Interesting. So by this logic nobody should have been mad that Justin Boren transferred, because it turned out to be a good "career move" on his part, winning 3 Big Ten Championships (plus a Rose and Sugar Bowl) and all.
What on earth does Trey Burke owe you, personally?
I never once said it was about me. All I'm saying is that if you truly believe Burke doesn't owe it to the University of Michigan to stay one more year, then the Michigan community does not owe him their affections.
You don't owe him affection. Claining he is "abandoning" and "rejecting" the school is pretty ball-clinching rhetoric, though.
It's his life, and he's doing what he thinks is right for him. Is he right? Nobody knows for sure. But characterizing it as "rejection" is breathing some sort of motivation into his actions that doesn't exist.
And my whole point to begin with was just that everyone out there complaining about Michigan fans being fickle are being unreasonable. If Burke doesn't owe it to the University to stay one more year, I just don't see why Michigan fans owe it to him to not be mad with his decision to leave.
Remember when Rich Rod told some Michigan fans to, "get a life?"
He was talking to you.
belong on Mlive. I said nothing unreasonable, and now you're just trolling.
There is a reason every one of your posts has been collapsed, and it's not because you're some great crusader, speaking truths in the face of mass delusion.
This argument has been over for hours and now you're going out of your way to tell me that I need to get a life if I'm upset that Burke is (possibly) leaving. Where did I go wrong here exactly? I stressed that I think Burke is a commendable young man, but that it isn't unreasonable of some fans to be mad at him for leaving, when his doing so will have an enormous negative impact on the team. Is that really so terrible of an opinion to have?
And my posts are collapsed because I happened to be arguing against 3 people who strongly disagreed with me and made it a point to immediately neg me every time I made a comment. Go figure.
Now, because I've commented on a few of your posts, you think I have some vendetta against you.
I'll tell you why people around here don't appreciate your posts. You come across as an arrogant, spoiled, petulant, entitled, douche bag.
You may not be any of these things, but that's what is communicated via your posts.
Trey deciding to leave is not him "abandoning" the University, or slapping his teammates in the face. One of the products of recruiting a higher caliber of player and building a strong basketball program, is that guys will leave early.
Guys will leave who are excellent players, and those guys leaving will undoubtedly have a negative impact on the program.
However, it is completely and totally classless to insinuate that a player does care about Michigan or his teammates, or cares less about Michigan or his teammates, simply because he chooses to make a very personal decision about his future.
There is no reason to be "mad" at Burke for leaving. That is completely ridiculous. You're only mad because what might be best for Burke (going pro), doesn't match up with what you would like to see (Burke staying). That's why someone called you out and said you're putting your own self interests above all else, because it's true. No player is bigger than the program, but the program isn't bigger than any one kid.
If it does make you mad, take some time off following sports. Get a new hobby, but don't come onto mgoblog and trash an 19 year old kid by saying that he abandoned Michigan, or implying that he doesn't care about his teammates. If you want to be mad or lash out, scream into a pillow. Most of us don't want to hear that nonsense.
And another thing, if he doesn't love Michigan as much as me or you, so what? Why get mad about something that trivial?
I now realize I said some things that were out of line but that wasn't the intent going in. The only reason I even entered the conversation was because 26 de Julio was tearing everybody down who didn't agree with Burke's decision and acting like they were being irrational. But what I said was bad, and I did it because I am "arrogant, spoiled, petulant, entitled, and a douche bag."
Quick question though: is it wrong of me to feel that someone like say, Denard Robinson, cares more about his teammates and the University of Michigan than Burke does, because of the fact that he chose to stay?
It's fine if you feel that way personally, but it becomes a problem when you're espousing something that is generally unknowable, trying to build a narrative from it, and posting it on mgoblog where everyone else has to see it.
It's a given that if Trey Burke leaves, every single fan of Michigan athletics will be unhappy about that information, but we can choose how we react to it.
Getting mad at the kid is probably the least desirible reaction, and having been a member of this board since before it was a board, I can tell you with absolute certainty that the majority of posters will not respond kindly to such behavior.
EDIT: Just so you are aware, I am not the one negging your comments.
point received.
*cringes*/*looks around like a frightened squirriel for person negging my posts*
To go work for the Tigers. Just sayin'.
but whatever it was (or maybe it wasn't anything actually said) it was enough to make Frieder fear for his job and make a hurried lateral move to a lesser program.
Bo's "Michigan man will coach Michigan" comment has been misremembered by many and was probably misunderstood by some at the time. Frieder's failure to be what Bo considered a Michigan man wasn't triggered by his leaving (though I'm sure that didn't help) but by his running his program in a sloppy, borderline-sleazy and completely un-Bo-like manner. Bo was ready to clean house; when Fisher won the national title three weeks later that was no longer feasible so Bo left instead.
None of this has anything to do with Trey Burke.