Winter is Coming - Michigan Lockdown to Start Wednesday [Locked]

Sad, but true, and right.

People were not policing themselves with high school sports; amazingly, things seem to have gotten more lax than from September. I follow a Michigan HS Sports account which posts highlights from various events. There was a high school volleyball game that had at least 150 fans in the stands (most appeared masked, which is good, but def not all); that doesn't include the players, coaches, refs and what looked to be the JV team. These were top-notch private schools in metro Detroit who know having people inside, for hours, is not a safe practice -- yet there they all were.

For some football games, I still saw student sections with dozens of kids crowded at the railing, yelling and cheering, w variable masking. Unbelievable.

When our state is racking up record number of cases & hospitalizations, and deaths are going to be at 100-plus per day, that just couldn't continue.

Oh, just in case we get any "it's not that bad!" folks on here...it's bad. Health care workers are burned the fuck out, and there's no one who can travel her from out of state to relieve them b/c it's bad to terrible everywhere.

https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/2020/11/12/west-michigans-spectrum-health-says-hospitals-near-capacity-amid-covid-surge/

I think Whitmer will allow the MHSAA football tournament to continue.  

Whitmer is a political swamp creature first, so she'll decide this primarily from a political lens. There will be a pretty big outrage if the tournament is cancelled at this point - the remaining players and teams have the finish line in sight, and they've worked hard to get there.  She'll calculate the outrage from those folk won't be worth it.

This won't affect the Lions, Wolverines or Spartans.

They aren't allowing fans (most high schools were) and, more importantly, they have a testing & tracing regime that high schools can't remotely match. So it's high school & middle school sports which are getting paused/canceled.

Our football season (for better or worse) will continue.

Oh no - there is no way the universe will allow that game to be cancelled this year. Deeper suffering seems unfathomable yet also inevitable.

"By the way, I and others are highly dubious this will be "just for three weeks."  We've seen that game before."

Didn't the last lockdown end? Or are you still of the belief that it's just a power-grab to destroy people's lives?

"Also, as usual, these sets of edicts will not be a joint partnership between the Executive and Legislative Branches.  Why exactly does Michigan have multiple branches of Government at this point?"

When the Legislative Branch is run by an obstructionist party determined to prove government doesn't work, that's what happens.

That's the reality we are in.  Given that, what is honestly the point with another set of edicts?

Fewer dead human beings. That's the point.

We all get you are a right lean but this simplification of the situation as an "it is what it is" is as shallow a commentary as you could create absent of gloating over the actual hundreds of thousands of dead.  Truly astonishing, even in this keyboard safe ignorance we live in.

All could be aided by simply wearing a mask.  Sort of like strapping your baby in a car seat, wearing your own seat belt and giving your keys to a sober driver when you are drunk.  No real impact on your fucking liberties, just decency and common sense.

Human Studies of Masking and SARS-CoV-2 Transmission

Data regarding the “real-world” effectiveness of community masking are limited to observational and epidemiological studies.

• An investigation of a high-exposure event, in which 2 symptomatically ill hair stylists interacted for an average of 15 minutes with each of 139 clients during an 8-day period, found that none of the 67 clients who subsequently consented to an interview and testing developed infection. The stylists and all clients universally wore masks in the salon as required by local ordinance and company policy at the time.32
• In a study of 124 Beijing households with > 1 laboratory-confirmed case of SARS-CoV-2 infection, mask use by the index patient and family contacts before the index patient developed symptoms reduced secondary transmission within the households by 79%.33
• A retrospective case-control study from Thailand documented that, among more than 1,000 persons interviewed as part of contact tracing investigations, those who reported having always worn a mask during high-risk exposures experienced a greater than 70% reduced risk of acquiring infection compared with persons who did not wear masks under these circumstances.34
• A study of an outbreak aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt, an environment notable for congregate living quarters and close working environments, found that use of face coverings on-board was associated with a 70% reduced risk.35
• Investigations involving infected passengers aboard flights longer than 10 hours strongly suggest that masking prevented in-flight transmissions, as demonstrated by the absence of infection developing in other passengers and crew in the 14 days following exposure.36,37

Seven studies have confirmed the benefit of universal masking in community level analyses: in a unified hospital system,38 a  German city,39 a U.S. state,40 a panel of 15 U.S. states and Washington, D.C.,41,42 as well as both Canada43 and the U.S.44 nationally. Each analysis demonstrated that, following directives from organizational and political leadership for universal masking, new infections fell significantly. Two of these studies42,44 and an additional analysis of data from 200 countries that included the U.S.45 also demonstrated reductions in mortality. An economic analysis using U.S. data found that, given these effects, increasing universal masking by 15% could prevent the need for lockdowns and reduce associated losses of up to $1 trillion or about 5% of gross domestic product.42

What really disappoints me is the number of people who still watch commercials, and furthermore think those commercials might impart information you could find useful.

Yes, but Whitmer may issue and executive order declaring the OT season starts now.  She could.

Yep. They dumbed down the slogan too much, so a bunch of people thought they could just pretend that nothing was happening after the first 2 weeks.