What's Our Path to the CFP Now?

Submitted by BursleyHall82 on

As I see it, we have a better than 50 percent chance of getting in if:

- OSU beats MSU and we win out.

- Stanford beats Notre Dame.

- Our chances improve even more if all the Big 12 teams cannibalize each other and no one has better than two losses.

Wins over Penn State, OSU and Iowa will make us a more attractive two-loss team than any other two-loss team, including Stanford and Notre Dame. They won't take more than one team from any conference, so the final four would then be Clemson, Alabama, Oklahoma State (or some other Big 12) team and us.

I'm not saying it's a slam dunk if all this happens, but I think it's our best chance. Am I wrong?

Gofor2

November 18th, 2015 at 3:03 PM ^

Is to go to Stub Hub and by Tickets, that's the only chance Michigan has of being at the playoff. There are far to many highly regarded teams ahead of UM, unfortunately UM just isn't respected by the CFP committee, or anyone really. Maybe better luck next year..

treetown

November 18th, 2015 at 10:17 AM ^

Pinky: What are going to do tonight?

Brain: What we do every night - try to take over the world.

If the Wolverines can beat PSU, OSU and then Iowa they would have beaten a former #1 rated team (and still a top#4 team) and a currently #5 team - they would be conference champs and the loss fo MSU would be just a single bad play fluke. So yes, it is possible - just have to win out.

Padog

November 17th, 2015 at 10:12 PM ^

I keep saying this but, next week will make it a lot more clear. If we win and Ohio State loses we can look into each possible scenario. There could be some upsets this week like TCU over Oklahoma for example that clear the way for us to move up.



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I Like Burgers

November 17th, 2015 at 10:20 PM ^

No way its high as 80%.  I'd put it more around 40% if they win out.  If Michigan wins out the rest of the regular season, that's probably only good enough to get them up to #6 or 7.  Ohio State would drop out of the top 4 and would likely be replaced by the winner of Oklahoma - Oklahoma State.  So you'd have a top four of Clemson, Alabama, Notre Dame, Okla/Okla St.  They'd play #5 Iowa in the Big Ten champ game, and unless they crush Iowa it would be tough to justify more than a move up to Iowa's #5 ranking.

Outside of winning out, the best thing Michigan fans can cheer for is Stanford beating Notre Dame, and then (probably) USC beating Stanford in the Pac-12 title game.  That would clear the path for Michigan to move into the top four to make it Clemson, Alabama, Big 12 winner, Michigan.

TrueBlue2003

November 17th, 2015 at 10:51 PM ^

for the committee to distinguish between a 2-loss Stanford PAC12 champ and a two loss Michigan B1G champ but we play a tougher opponent in each of the remaining (hypothetical) three weeks so it'd be a shock if we didn't pass them on the strength of a better conference champ opponent (or before).

Very close resumes though.  Both teams have lost to 2 loss teams in one another's conf, which is kinda crazy.

funkywolve

November 18th, 2015 at 12:33 AM ^

Would the committee look at the fact UM got both common opponents at home, and Stanford played them on the road?

Also, if Stanford beats Utah in the Pac-12 title game that would be one more common opponent and then UM and Stanford would both be 2-1 against common opponents.

ijohnb

November 18th, 2015 at 9:30 AM ^

looked at all of this already I believe.  I think they were spooked big time by the Indiana game.  Stanford and Michigan are firmly in the long shot category, the "sneak in" group.  I think that the Committee was banking on Michigan continuing to have an elite D that would justify them getting into the playoff and also being competitive once we got there.  I think they watched the Indiana game and saw possible signs of Michigan being fraudulent and that Stanford is the more "reliable" opponent to give a #1 ranked team a game.  They want good games and they don't want to have to answer for an opponent that quite obviously did not deserve to be a playoff team in retrospect, and Michigan's defense against Indiana set off alarm bells.  I think it is possible for Michigan to correct it without a Stanford loss but they would have to play some really, really good football from here on out.

The Stanford angle is still in play for us.  Aside from ND, Cal is no pushover and they Pac 10 title game is in play(preferably NOT against Utah) for them to lose as well.  That said, Big 12 chaos is our best hope now.

joeyb

November 17th, 2015 at 10:36 PM ^

I know that he said USC, but if it ends up being Utah instead of USC, Michigan and Stanford would both be 1-1 against common opponents. If Utah wins, they'd obviously have the head-to-head. So, we really need USC to win out or for Utah to lose to UCLA.

CompleteLunacy

November 18th, 2015 at 8:31 AM ^

Otherwise you're leaving it in the hands of the committee, who could very well pick Stanford over Michigan in the situation where they win out. Now, I find that unlikely, but then again Stanford is still a spot ahead despite losing to Oregon and the committee's general love for Stanford leaves reasonable doubt. It's a slam dunk if Stanford loses to USC in their championship tho.

ijohnb

November 18th, 2015 at 9:46 AM ^

man.  You have to look at this closely.  If Utah beats UCLA and wins out until the Pac 12 championship game they will be ranked about 8.  ND is ranked 4 right now and is going to smothercrush BC.  So, in this scenario we would be beating #3 OSU and #5 Iowa.  Stanford would be beating #4 ND and #8 Utah.  There is not a whole lot of difference there when Iowa is presumed to be fraudulent and Stanford will have just beat a Utah team that already beat Michigan.  If we get in on the Stanford angle it is going to be because they either lose the Pac 12 title game(preferable to USC and not Utah) or we win so big that we just jump them based on eye test.  But it is not as simple as beat OSU and Iowa because they will basically have done the same thing in the last two weeks of the season.  Once again, shift focus to Big 12 chaos.  That is likely our ticket now.

Or Michigan State could just beat OSU this weekend and ijohnb would put on his sad face.

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UMForLife

November 18th, 2015 at 9:54 AM ^

If they look at it closely, they will realize that unbeaten teams were beaten by Michigan. And Michigan beat NU convincingly. It will be a judgmental call, but at the end of the day, beating 2 or 3 loss teams in the championship game is not the same as beating undefeated teams. It will sort out this week with a win over PSU, in the point of view of Stanford being a threat.

Maizen

November 18th, 2015 at 10:13 AM ^

No you listen man. Michigan would have the two best wins in the entire college football season BY FAR if they beat two undefeated top 5 teams in back to back weeks. The B1G has 6 teams in the top 25 (most by far) and if you think Alvarez, Osborne, etc are going to leave out a massive brand like Michigan for fucking Stanford (see OSU over TCU and Baylor last year) you're out of your mind. Right now Utah doesn't even control its own destiny to win its division let alone get in a conference title game with Stanford right now. Stanford losing to NW is another tie breaker in Michigan's favor. It's really mind boggling people are having a hard time understanding this.

ijohnb

November 18th, 2015 at 10:32 AM ^

listen man.  Ask yourself this question.  If the Northwestern game means anything at all, why on earth is Michigan not ranked above Stanford right now?  Do you think the Committee just didn't notice that we beat our one common opponent by 31 points? And If the "brand" meant anything they would have gotten out in front of it this week in order not to have to explain why Michigan would jump Stanford when both teams closed the season with wins over Top 10 opponents.

Maizen

November 18th, 2015 at 11:14 AM ^

Because the committee doesn't give a shit about teams outsie the top 10 right now. If Michigan and Stanford both win out and Michigan gets left out for Stanford I will never post here again. Hw about you do the same if the opposite is true deal?

BigBlue02

November 18th, 2015 at 12:27 PM ^

The committe wouldn't have to explain anything. They would just be operating on the assumption that beating OSU and Iowa in consecutive weeks is better than beating ND and Utah/USC

I Like Burgers

November 17th, 2015 at 10:13 PM ^

It'll be tough.  They need MSU to lose to Ohio St, Notre Dame to lose to Stanford, and Stanford to lose the Pac-12 champ game ideally.  Some more carnage in the Big 12 would help too.  If Michigan wins out, they'll have wins over the #3 team, and the #5 team and that might be just enough to squeak in as a 2-loss #4 team.

TrueBlue2003

November 17th, 2015 at 10:16 PM ^

the B1G championship, and ND loses to Stanford, we are in.  Even if ND wins, there's a chance the Big 12 beats itself up enough (OK loses to TCU and beats Ok St, etc) that we still get in.  Which is why I agree that if we win the B1G championship, there's about an 80% chance we get in.