Travis Walton denies allegations... victim comments on ESPN story
Not sure if this is thread-worthy, but I found this interesting. Since there isn't another thread on Walton's statement today, I figured it might be worth posting.
As you guys probably saw, Walton denied both allegations with a written statement today. I was looking through the comments on ESPN and saw that the victim Ashley Thompson actually commented on the article, saying, "It was plead down because Tom Izzo runs East Lansing, period."
Insane that this girl had a documented concussion and nothing came of this.
I'm not a Twitter person, but if you are it might be worth passing this screencap on to the Twittersphere, maybe tagging some reporters or something.
January 30th, 2018 at 11:04 PM ^
January 30th, 2018 at 9:11 PM ^
In your estimation did your player assault the woman? Was he involved in a subsequent sexual assault? What was the thinking that brought you to invite the young man to live with you after these alleged incidents?
January 31st, 2018 at 11:05 AM ^
Travis should sue. And in fact if it were all lies he might have a case. So let's see if that happens. Anyone taking odds? In the slim to none range? Yes, he might threaten. . .
January 30th, 2018 at 8:40 PM ^
January 30th, 2018 at 9:01 PM ^
....have no fear, columbus welcomes all!
January 30th, 2018 at 9:12 PM ^
an opening.
January 30th, 2018 at 9:30 PM ^
....nah, he already sucked in dan enos.
January 30th, 2018 at 8:42 PM ^
January 30th, 2018 at 8:46 PM ^
January 30th, 2018 at 8:51 PM ^
I really don't understand the lack of backlash against Valenti/MSU folks posting witch hunt on every social media site in existence. Thought I'd already lost faith in the world, until I started reading comments on this article. I really think society is on the path to exterminating itself.
January 30th, 2018 at 11:24 PM ^
The "top" comment on the article is someone calling the victim in the article "fat". What the hell is wrong with people.
January 31st, 2018 at 12:37 AM ^
January 30th, 2018 at 8:55 PM ^
January 30th, 2018 at 9:01 PM ^
January 30th, 2018 at 9:03 PM ^
Walton also denied that he was ever accused of a gang rape to ESPN, yet there is an internal MSU memo saying that he and 2 players were accused and the matter was discussed with the team.
(1) Was Walton lying to ESPN or was Hollis lying on the internal memo? Is it possible that Hollis took the alledged gang rape and didn't even notify the players that they had been accused? If not, why did Walton lie to ESPN?
(2) Why wasn't Title IX contacted per US laws?
January 30th, 2018 at 9:34 PM ^
January 30th, 2018 at 9:36 PM ^
January 30th, 2018 at 9:55 PM ^
If I remember right, the police recommended charges, but the ESPN interview with the rape victim, the prosecutor (who is an MSU fan) pressured her to drop the matter as she was too weak to withstand the pressure. Now that prosecutor works for MSU on these sorts of cases - what a racket!
January 31st, 2018 at 8:18 AM ^
Walton was accused along with two as yet unnamed players.
January 30th, 2018 at 11:13 PM ^
January 31st, 2018 at 12:10 AM ^
ESPN has the goods on Walton, most likely. Their targeted questions lead one to believe that they were steering Izzo in a certain direction.
Any Sparty who believes that Hollis just retired is a moron. He got out before the shit hit the fan.
He'll still be liable though and his reputation ruined with the rest of them.
Remember when God Fearing Hugh Freeze and Ole Miss were innocent also?
January 31st, 2018 at 6:00 AM ^
Yes, ESPN says they have an internal MSU memo.
Per the memo: (1) a female student claimed that Walton and 2 unnamed basketball players raped her AND tried to rape another student as well. (2) Hollis handled the investigation. (3) Izzo was informed. (4) No players were reprimanded. (5) No mention of contacting the Title IX office or any outside the atheltic department assistance was used.
It is illegal for Hollis and Izzo to know of an alleged rape through their occupation and not report it to the Title IX office.
ESPN asked MSU if this alleged gang rape was reported to the Title IX office and MSU gave a non-answer response about having high standards that they don't always live up to...which can imply no that they did not contact Title IX.
Hollis and Izzo broke the law. What will Izzo's excuse be? That he thought Hollis already reported it so it was okay for him not to? So in the meantime, he kept the 3 alleged rapists on the team.
Wouldn't it be a dandy if the two alleged rapists from the memo, which weren't named, were Payne and Appling where Spartan Silence is giving them a second pass to rape someone! Payne and Appling were still on the team during this alleged rape. If so, MSU deserves a post-season ban.
January
February
Serial-Rapists?
April
January 31st, 2018 at 12:54 PM ^
the appling/payne rape occurred at freshmen orientation, iirc. this rape allegation involving walton has been reported to occur a few months before that one. so my guess is that walton was with two other likely important players, and since this one was hid under the rug, msu also had to cover-up the appling/payne rape.
they couldn't take a risk of what appling/payne would do if dismissed from the team, knowing the other incident was covered-up. why dismiss them if no action was taken against walton et al? disgusting i know, but once you set a precendent...
January 30th, 2018 at 9:36 PM ^
I do not posess a MENSA member card, so could someone please explain to me just how in the fuck can an assault charge be dropped and replaced by a littering charge?
This is probably going to get negged like a bitch, but I asked my wife that same question and she said that maybe the prosecutor decided that since Winston was responsible for placing her on the ground that he somehow littered....she said this in bewildered jest mind you.
But seriously, anyone out there with legal or prosecutorial experience...how does this even make sense?
January 30th, 2018 at 9:43 PM ^
it is a legal fiction created when the charge and the resolution are quite different. it was a civil infraction in place of a misdemeanor. it happens in some scenarios. the example above seems way out of line, but i'll give you one that happened today and is fairly normal. a guy got a ticket for fishing without a license. he actually bought one on-line while the DNR guy wrote him up, everyone was pleasant about it. the prosecutor offered a civil infraction. the final 'charge' was a civil infraction for violating state forest rules, fine up to $500.
in the digital age a misdemeanor of any sort can really screw up a person's school/employment/credit. a civil infraction won't.
January 31st, 2018 at 8:51 AM ^
January 31st, 2018 at 11:18 AM ^
for the DNR stuff, tags and all.
January 30th, 2018 at 10:21 PM ^
They had to come with some bullcrap minor charge to give him, and "littering" was the one they drew out of a hat.
January 30th, 2018 at 11:08 PM ^
It's the AntiBartertown: Want a deal? Spin the wheel!
January 30th, 2018 at 11:03 PM ^
Thats like charging someone with failure to hitch your horse when at the post office. Like it might still be in the books but I cant say anyone here ever met someone accused of littering.
Although , I suppose, leaving a girl out cold sprawled on the ground like trash ... yeah, littering, I can see that, sure.
January 31st, 2018 at 1:11 PM ^
I'm not a prosecutor, but I see enough conviction records and incident repots in my job and talk with my friends who are/were prosecutors to comfortably say that in general, pleas down to lesser charges happen all the time.
Now from assault to littering? I think that's much less common, but fact-specific. You'd probably need a decent reason to go that low. Perhaps, influence from a powerful school athletic department or something similar.
January 30th, 2018 at 9:39 PM ^
January 30th, 2018 at 9:55 PM ^
More...
January 30th, 2018 at 10:08 PM ^
Damn!! Yet, Izzo walks, eats, and sleeps well. I really don't know how he does it...
January 30th, 2018 at 10:24 PM ^
She should really have more than one "like" for being brave enough to post that.
January 30th, 2018 at 10:22 PM ^
on other threads, do not be suprised if this goes much deeper than MSU and straight into the Ingham County prosecuters office.
January 30th, 2018 at 11:29 PM ^
January 31st, 2018 at 12:59 AM ^
office back to MSU. Would prosecutors drop cases just because they were fans or did they have more of a relationship with well placed people at MSU?
January 30th, 2018 at 10:24 PM ^
January 30th, 2018 at 10:39 PM ^
January 31st, 2018 at 12:43 AM ^
January 30th, 2018 at 10:45 PM ^
With Engler now the Interim Pres. Izzo and Dantonio will be safe. Engler is buddies with Pete Secchia who is a big time MSU donor. There is no way he fires Izzo and Dantonio.
Engler will make sure Izzo and Dantonio are not liable on any of the accounts, but that it was the prosecutor's fault. As much as a weasel Izzo is and as much of a douche canoe Dantonio is, I am afraid the will still be at MSU.
January 31st, 2018 at 1:04 AM ^
The board still has to vote on that to make it official. MSU's faculty group has said they will call for a vote of no confidence in the board if they do hire Engler. They're not happy.
January 30th, 2018 at 10:56 PM ^
January 30th, 2018 at 11:03 PM ^
Has a few years left before they retire. You can tell this stuff has aged them in a hurry.
January 30th, 2018 at 11:17 PM ^
I don't know how Dantonio feels, but Izzo looks like he's breaking down right now. Regardless of what his new bosses do, I expect him to retire.
January 31st, 2018 at 2:03 AM ^
It looks to me like Izzo actually has a tiny bit of conscience or morality and his guilt is eating him alive now that his sins are being brought into the public light. Dantonio on the other hand seems sociopathic where even after his sins are (likely) proven he somehow believes he has done no wrong.
January 31st, 2018 at 9:07 AM ^
I would love to meet him somewhere and look him in the eyes and tell him "PRIDE COMES BEFORE THE FALL."...Every day... and watch his smug reaction.
January 30th, 2018 at 11:05 PM ^