Top Performers at Miami Camp & Ballz Movement

Submitted by alum96 on

The Saturday night Miami camp seems to have been lost in the discussion of the Tampa and PA camps.  There is a nice (free) blurb on 247 on the 5 top performers which include two 2017s and a 2016 QB; one assumes the latter is not applicable to UM but hell who knows at this point with how Harbaugh operates.   Lower on the page some movement on crystal ballz (excluding the 1 guy who has crystal balled 150 people to UM the past 72 hrs).

It is interesting that Devin Bush Jr is not one of the 5 named by 247 analyst Bartow.  (Edit - Looks like Bush didn't attend the camp his dad ran - bummer)  Thomas sounds very interesting and UM is the first P5 offer; a positive to be in early.  Merrell is a similar situation. 

2017 WR Clevan Thomas - It was his show. He's one of the best wide receiver prospects in south Florida in 2017. The guy killed it last Sunday at the loaded Miami 7-on-7 including a lethal one-handed touchdown grab underneath the goalpost. The beat continued in front of the eyes of the Michigan staff. Thomas has burst, ball skills and most of all, that dog, that you need to compete. Temple offered first. Michigan offered second.

2017 RB Jordan Merrell - Brilliant spring evaluation by Cincinnati recruiter Eddie Gran to offer and get a commit from this explosive slot. Good luck hanging onto him. Merrell has that south Florida speed. Something you can only find in paradise. His second move is as fast as his first. He can beat DBs deep with his second and third gear. Look for his stock to explode soon.

2016 DE Terrell Lucas - Has over a dozen verbal offers. Michigan added their name to the list along with Syracuse and Minnesota, among others. Lucas is a prep defensive end that will likely transition to a 3-4 outside linebacker in college. He has a good frame. Takes coaching well. He was outstanding at last week's Alabama camp and was equally good in front of Michigan's staff.

2016 QB Kato Nelson - The best among a small group of QBs. Ideal, wise fit to hop on the Akron offer a few weeks ago, a league that's produced many good QBs over the years. He's one of the nation's best 7-on-7 QBs as he's the dealer for mega power, The Florida Fire. Nelson has a smooth release and tremendous accuracy.

2017 LB Tyler Dunning - Cerebral and gets downhill in a hurry. Slippery pass rusher that's already readymade in terms of inside backer size (6-1, 222). The early 2017 four-star Miami commit is a high character person and a physical presence on the field.

 

It looks like Harbaugh is very much going to take a barbell approach at least in the 2016 class - the normal guys UM recruits in the top 300 on one end and then a lot of guys way out in the boondocks in terms of recruiting services.  It will be interesting to see if this is a 2016 situation or this is how Harbaugh will be rolling consistently.  By 2017 he will have more typical length of relationships with the players in that class so might not have to 'reach' quite so often - but maybe he will want to.

In terms of crystal ball movement a few items:

  • Lucas had 3 guys move him to UM, including Ace and Lorenz.  The 3rd guy is the beforementioned dude who has gone on a crystal ball spree.  UM would be his best offer so the vein of undiscovered (hopefuly) gem.
  • Little known safety Josh Mettelus has 5 crystal ballz now to UM.   More on him shortly.
  • With Austin Mack headed to OSU, a lot of Rutgers types are crystal balling WR Ahmir Mitchell to UM.  I would like to see Lorenz flip from his OSU call there.  The OSU guy from Land-Grant Holy Land has also not flipped him yet.  But momentum seems to be building.
  • With MSU landing two top 100 DEs this weekend, the playing time argument for Khalid Kareem is now better at UM and he was trending our way seemingly even before this weekend but a lot more ballz have hit this weekend for him.  He announced Jun 24th I believe.

 

We see a strategy forming here.  Harbaugh APPEARS to be building specific pipeline schools both in FL and AL.  Maybe it is just coincidence but there are now 3 Pratville (AL) kids who are commits and Mettelus the safety is from the same HS (Flanagan) as Devin Bush Jr.   And that stud 17 WR that is about to explode on south florida?  Also from Flanagan.   That was also the school that hosted the camp. Flanagan is in Pemrbroke Pines, FL which is not far from St Thomas Aquinas which is a NFL factory and Urban has benefited from big time at both FL and now OSU.  The Miami - Ft Laud area has a plethora of NFL athletes, by far and away the most fruitful concentrated area in the country.

So one theory (mine) is this is about establishing a beachhead.  Some of these offers are surely about the kid but also but the long game.  When you get 2-3 kids out of a school in 1 class the 2017s and 2018s in that school notice.  And then other area kids begin to take it seriously than you can go "up north".   We also have begun doing this with Paramus Catholic in NJ (not all Harbaugh, obviously Hoke started that).  Apparently the PA camp was loaded with Paramus kids including their young class of 2018 QB.  So essentially we are building Cass Tech's throughout the country now.

Fun fact per Nick B - in 6 months Harbaugh has doubled the # of commits from the SEC (6) footprint than Hoke had in 4 years.

 

TyTrain32

June 8th, 2015 at 10:45 AM ^

know how funny and origional your joke was, keep up the good work.

And don't worry, in about 3 days I'll have 3 full months off for a vacation and since I wont be sitting behind a computer all day this board will be the furthest thing from my mind. Have fun "working from home"...

BlueCube

June 8th, 2015 at 10:08 AM ^

Not really surprising. He was not there. He and many other top south Florida players were at another camp. I think it was a Nike camp or something.

Sione's Flow

June 8th, 2015 at 10:17 AM ^

I think it's smart to establish a pipeline in these schools. Harbaugh had to draw from all over the country for Stanford. He obviously was able to make that work pretty well.

ScruffyTheJanitor

June 8th, 2015 at 10:14 AM ^

is good. The one thing I worry about: how much attrition are we expecting? It sounds like 11-12 people gone, minimum. Chances are a couple of them will be contributors. 

Space Coyote

June 8th, 2015 at 10:27 AM ^

And then you start to realize that the attritition, in all likelihood, only needs to be ~5 players to get the next class to 25. There will certainly be attritition, but I don't think it'll be the massive wave some think it is; nor does it need to be.

alum96

June 8th, 2015 at 10:56 AM ^

There was a thread on this yesterday.  It is really actually pretty easy to get to 25 eliminating just guys who have not really contributed on Saturdays.   The 2012 class was big, and had very little attrition.  The flip side of that is, there are a larger then usual # of guys in that class who really have not played much at all and are in a Russ Bellomy type of situation.   Guys who left early this year - after 4 years in the program - like Hayes and Heitzman played much more than the guys I am speaking of.

There are some other relatively obvious ways to get there without eliminating anyone who has taken a meaningful snap in the Big10.  Other guys are simply going to leave because they have been passed up or there is not playing time which is normal in any program. 

MGoViso

June 8th, 2015 at 10:35 AM ^

I would love to hear personally from a coach someday about the theories you mentioned regarding strategy - do coaches think in long-term patterns about building a presence in an area, winning particular schools, etc.? I am sure if you asked a coach in public, the answer would be, "We try to get the best kids we can every year, period," and that would be somewhat believable in that there is so much scouting and recruitment to be done every year that coaches may not have time or energy to worry about long-term strategy.

Can anyone with solid NCAA coaching connections comment?

Farnn

June 8th, 2015 at 10:44 AM ^

Recruiting is heavily about relationships, and that is one of the reasons Harbaugh has struggled with the 2016 class.  Many of these kids have known the other staffs for over a year and Michigan is just trying to establish relationships.   And as much scouting as there is, there are only so many head coaches and schools you can get to know so it's best to prioritize big schools that produce a lot of talent.  One of the nice things about these camps is it allows coaches to build these relationships for 2017 and 2018 and not just at 1 school but at an entire area.  Even if they are shut down after this year, Michigan will have made a lot of headway into future classes and then results on the field should kick in.

alum96

June 8th, 2015 at 11:02 AM ^

Wheatley was in the NFL lately not NCAA.  And ironically he has been killing it on the recruiting trail.  That is the last guy you should be directing anything towards - he has been instrumental in a whole bunch of commits already.

Who is this Durkins guy?

I dont think Drevno came in with a great reputation as a recruiter - he has a great reputatin as a developer.  Which is fine, not every guy on staff has to be a stud recruiter.

I don't know about Durkins but we definitely hope to hear more out of Durkin - he did have a great reptutation as a recruiter pre UM. 

BlueCube

June 8th, 2015 at 12:07 PM ^

I guess he could do better but he had a late start.

The list is somewhat subjective because it's difficult to break out the Harbaugh effect and position coach from the primary recruiter but he is clearly successful and is getting a lot of praise.

BlueSpiceIn SEC.hell

June 8th, 2015 at 11:03 AM ^

I don't know why this got down-voted.  

At most schools it seems the asst. coaches are recognized for being the reason for recruits coming.  We have some great ones in the fold... Let's not forget Mattison - if I am not mistaken, didn't Meyer say we were getting the best recruiter in college when he came on staff with Hoke?

Mr Miggle

June 8th, 2015 at 11:29 AM ^

for mistakenly including Wheatley (NFL) and Zordich (only 1 year at an FCS school) to a short list of names. Then he doesn't seem to recognize that Wheatley has been a big factor in our in-state recruiting. If he wants to rag on the coaches, fine, but that's a weak post.

One of the main challenges this staff faces in recruiting is that very few of them have been doing it the past few seasons. It's unlikely you could find a staff that's more true for.

Magnus

June 8th, 2015 at 11:11 AM ^

I must not understand the question.

Wheatley is the Detroit-area recruiter. Michael Onwenu just committed last Tuesday.

Zordich was not exactly recruiting on this level.

Durkin paid off with a couple Florida recruits in the 2015 class, as well as Nolan Ulizio. He also might pay off in the near future with some of the guys we're pursuing.

Drevno is the guy with California connections. Most of those kids haven't had a chance to visit Michigan yet...because they live in California. It's not a surprise that they wouldn't have committed, but lots of them have Michigan in their top group.

Farnn

June 8th, 2015 at 11:20 AM ^

I have wondered the same thing given the recruiting chops of coaches like Mattison and Durkins and I don't really have an answer.  I don't think Zordich or Drevno were ever great recruiters and Wheatley was in the NFL.

But people want to compare the recruiting of Harbuagh to Meyer's first years at OSU and Franklin's first years at PSU and they really aren't alike.  Meyer was only out of CFB for 10 months and was still around the college game working for ESPN.  Plus he benefitted hugely from the PSU scandal and got credit for kids who would have gone to OSU any other year but didn't due to Tressel and an incompetent interim staff.  And Franklin never left college ball and could sell on the rebuilding of PSU that was only down due to scandal.  Michigan has been in a slump for almost a decade and the kids being recruited were in elementary school in 2006. 

Mr Miggle

June 8th, 2015 at 11:05 AM ^

Is it even true that Harbaugh has struggled with recruiting this class? I guess that depends on your expectations. Sure, those relationships help, but he's on track for a pretty strong class as it is. Better than anyone else coming off a losing record That's without anyone seeing a decent product on the field here for awhile. Some of the high ranking recruits will be looking for thatin the fall.

alum96

June 8th, 2015 at 10:59 AM ^

Well Jim is going back to the NFL in 2 years per all I hear on rival sites so it is nice he is setting the groundwork for the next coach.

If I was a coach I'd be doing this strategy esp if my plan was to stick around a decade.  Find the hotspots in college football and get a school or two where I direct a ton of my energy early.  Then in year 3-7 it will be like dropping a pebble into a lake... my waves will start hitting a much wider range.  I think he will do this in Houston as well.  Not so sure on Fresno - that might be a combination of Caleb Kelly + I believe Baxter has a very long history in the area.  But SE FL, Houston, NJ, PA - these are areas so many prospects come out of.  Hope if the camps are not banned next year they go into the VA/D.C. area as well with a camp as that is a major fertile area without an in house dominant program.

alum96

June 8th, 2015 at 12:44 PM ^

I think it is always going to be difficult to get west coast kids to come all the way to Michigan.  If we get 1 a class I'd consider that a success.  Especially with USC being USC and UCLA being effectively Michigan west in terms of academics + football.  And now Stanford is a serious player when it wasnt in Michigan's decades of doing very well off.  I see a lot of Stanford commits with UM offers.  And that's without even talking Oregon.  Just tough to pull a kid all the way across the country. 

If Stanford had fallen off the map and Mora Jr left UCLA I'd have a different view - to a degree.