Speight to Return ?

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Nick Baumgardner says Wilton could return if Patterson ineligible.
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JonnyHintz

January 25th, 2018 at 9:26 PM ^

You’re talking about a 5th year with a year and a half of starting experience and complete knowledge of your offense. Even if just for depth purposes, there’s not a coach in America that would say no to that. It has nothing to do at all with who Harbaugh does or doesn’t want to play. Same as adding Patterson. He’s just doing his job and doing whatever it takes to make the team better. Take a look at our depth chart at QB right now. Assume for a moment that Patterson is ineligible. You TAKE a 5th year senior that knows your system and has a year and a half experience starting in the system.

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JonnyHintz

January 26th, 2018 at 7:33 AM ^

Still a better option than having to turn to an incredibly raw true freshman that is still learning the playbook And completed less than half of his passes as a high school senior. Nobody is saying automatically start Speight. But he’s a great addition for depth at the very least.

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JonnyHintz

January 27th, 2018 at 8:23 AM ^

A true freshman that was lightyears ahead of Joe Milton developmentally. Sure. Compare a college ready kid coming out of high school to Milton who has continued to drop in the rankings throughout the year due to his piss poor mechanics, his accuracy issues that haven’t gotten any better, and the scouting reports that have said he may not even end up playing QB in college. Kid is barely a functioning QB and can’t even complete half of his passes in high school. But sure. He’ll work out justttttt like Tua.

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JonnyHintz

January 25th, 2018 at 9:32 PM ^

Don’t know how people can neg this. At worst you’re getting an experienced guy who knows your system like the back of his hand. You’re getting a guy who has completed 60.1% of his passes, averaged 195 passing yards per game and has a 21/9 TD:INT ratio. And he already knows your playbook and has chemistry with your wideouts and tight ends. After an injury plagued year and what we saw happen to Maryland’s QB room, that’s definitely a player you would take. Even if just for depth.

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Mr Grainger

January 25th, 2018 at 7:35 PM ^

I'd welcome it. Competition is good, and for all this talk about Harbaugh not being able to develop a quarterback people forget how well Speight played for the first 9 games of 2016.

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Michael Burnham

January 26th, 2018 at 5:15 AM ^

Blah blah blah competition, blah blah.  That's all people do here, parrot Harbaughisms. For all his talk about competition at Michigan , we got out-competed by Staee, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Pedo State, and ... South Carolina.  Most of those teams that we lost to don't have the level of talent we have, and yet here we are, with bad QB play, an OL that is undependable, receivers that can't get separation and run routes.  So now our savior is a 5th year QB who didn't play well.  Who, if had our defense not played so well, would have had a worse record.  Who decided to leave the team.  And who now is recovering from a spinal injury.  

All of the other teams including the playoff teams, they eventually take a risk on their younger quarterbacks.  Coach them up, see how they do.  We seem to do that with the defense, where Harbaugh arguably has the least influence.  On the offensive side, we seem to be this conservative, backwards-looking, risk-averse operation that appears to be regressing.

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jblaze

January 25th, 2018 at 7:36 PM ^

And I could be QB next year.

If Speight had any inclination to be QB next year, he would have practiced for the Bowl game (maybe not played if he wasn't 100%, but at least have practiced).

From what we (and I know we don't know everything), Shea's NCAA waiver paperwork hasn't even been filed, so nobody even has an educated guess of whether it will pass. Regardless, there is no more info re: Shea's eligibility now than there was 3 weeks ago.

My guess is that Nick's trolling for clicks.

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goblue16

January 25th, 2018 at 7:37 PM ^

Worst news I’ve heard all day. Not because I hate Speight I wanted him to succeed but man oh man why did harbaugh recruit peters and McCaffrey if he doesn’t think they have a shot as juniors and sophomores

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Bill22

January 25th, 2018 at 11:35 PM ^

I would like having him in a QB competition, if possible. What’s the downside? I think by now it’s pretty the issues on Offense were more than just QB (WRs can’t get open, Oline can’t block stunts, RBs can’t pass protect, play calling and game plan was bad/too complicated). If Patterson can’t play, I would feel much better having Speight in the mix.

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UMForLife

January 25th, 2018 at 7:48 PM ^

It is confusing. Coach gets hired and he might leave in a week. QB decides to transfer and changes his mind. Everyone keeps saying Pep is gone but he is out there recruiting. I really Don't believe anything anymore. Now you are going to tell me we really did go to moon. So much drama and it is not even February.

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Michigan Arrogance

January 25th, 2018 at 8:01 PM ^

LOL, WS obvisously is choosing to leave - his decision, not a handshake situation for a 5th year guy by Harbaugh.

but he may stay at a place he'd rather choose to leave?

sounds like a *great* situation to be in. Kind of like the Alex Mitchell deal 10 years ago. That was a bit of a harbinger, it's fair to say.

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GhostofJermain…

January 25th, 2018 at 8:04 PM ^

I was told WS leaving really bothered coach.  As much as we all may want him to go, I'm of the opinion that coach thought WS was the starter going into next year before all the Shea business.  Falk and Fisch spoke to WS both in depth to try and understand his decision and if there was anything that could help change his mind.  After that bowl game, if we are all honest with ourselves WS probably gives us the best chance to win next year assuming Shea not eligible.  I do not think he is coming back, but this would explain a lot.  Kenny Allen was in today and made it sound like WS was going to be in California with him next week.  I'm not sure if WS is taking classes or not.  

 

Some very important people that work in Schem Hall think Shea and all the ole Miss boys are going to be eligible for whatever that is worth.  

Cheers

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MGoKalamazoo

January 25th, 2018 at 8:12 PM ^

I’m going to disagree. Seems like the grass is always greener on the other side. We all saw Speight up to the Purdue game and he was awful. Granted the offensive line was terrible but against Cincinnati and Air Force he still looked terrible. He is what he is as a qb at this point. I’ll root for him if he comes back but I personally want to see what Patterson, Peters and McCaffery can do.

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Putt4Birdie

January 26th, 2018 at 6:03 AM ^

A lot of it was terrible play calling and the Drevno effect. How disheartening after the game hearing that Gamecock defensive player say they knew almost all the plays every time we lined up. Anybody would have struggled when the defense knew the play including Speight who probably would have thrown another pick six to add to his record.

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gobluedave

January 26th, 2018 at 6:42 AM ^

peters really looked poor at times and to top it all off, he looked scared out there. he's not a great Passer yet and didn't really use his legs. 2 plays the will always stick out for me with him is when he did a baseball slide at the end of the SC game rather than dive for the 1st down and another in an earlier game when a player reversed field and he opted not to participate as a blocker.

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DelhiWolverine

January 26th, 2018 at 8:33 AM ^

Yeah, but what if Drevno had no choice but to call the game that way because Peters couldn’t handle a more complicated playbook? I don’t know if we have enough data to determine whether the Outback Bowl fiasco was on Drevno or Peters. If the kid can’t handle a more complex game plan, can you really put it all on Drevno? Short term, it would make sense to completely change the offense to minimize our deficiencies at QB, but long term it makes sense to practice this more complex pro-style offense with the entire offense. I believe that Harbaugh is betting on the long-term right now and is willing to endure a mediocre year in order to put his team in a much better place for the next several years. I’m ok with that.

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Fezzik

January 25th, 2018 at 8:16 PM ^

Speight must of thought he'd be getting much more free agent attention than what he actually is. How would the team feel about this? Speight bailed on them for the bowl game to find a new team. Now he could be like "just playing everyone I'm still your QB and leader."

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Reader71

January 26th, 2018 at 12:01 PM ^

It’s probably not much different than a grad transfer coming in. Maybe better for the team, because they know him. Plus, maybe he’s just decided to compete for the M job while getting a free year of quality graduate studies instead of competing for another job at a less quality school. Even if he comes back, it doesn’t mean he’ll play. I think he would, but who knows.

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