Some Pairwise chat before the Duel in the D

Submitted by mfan_in_ohio on February 17th, 2020 at 12:35 AM

Michigan's road win in East Lansing jumped them all the way to #20 in the Pairwise rankings, with the bubble in reach. However, it is still quite the uphill climb to get to at-large territory, and tonight's matchup is especially huge for multiple reasons:

  • Besides the fact that it's Sparty, and it's the Duel in the D, Sparty is one spot behind us in the Pairwise, so we would drop below them with a loss.  The loser of this game (if there is one) may have to win out in the final two weekends and go deep in the B1G tournament to get an at-large spot.
  • Neutral and road wins have a larger RPI impact than home wins, so next weekend's home series with Notre Dame won't give Michigan as much of an opportunity to move up. 
  • A win would vault Michigan into 3rd place in the B1G, 3 points behind Penn State and final regular season opponent Minnesota.  Minnesota and Penn State face off next weekend, so if they manage to split their points, Michigan could catch them both heading to the final weekend.  That top spot is important, with home ice throughout the tournament on the line.
  • Even with a significantly higher RPI ranking, Michigan is currently losing its Pairwise comparison with Michigan Tech by virtue of having lost the GLI championship game and having a worse record against common opponents, one of whom is Michigan State.  A win over Sparty tonight would flip that comparison, but anything else would lock the comparison up in Tech's favor until the conference tournaments begin. 

There are 16 teams in the NCAA tournament.  Of those, autobids will go to at least one (Atlantic Hockey champ) and probably 1-2 more teams that are not currently in the top 16, so Michigan will need to get to around 13th in order to be safe.  Notably, the B1G is getting perilously close to being a 1-bid league because the teams are beating each other up and are mostly ending up just on the wrong side of the bubble. Unfortunately, the current RPI gap between #20 Michigan and @19 Providence is larger than the gap between Providence and #13 Ohio State, so even with a win tonight you probably wouldn't see Michigan's Pairwise spot change, but it would be a huge step closer to the target. 

It was unimaginable back in December that Michigan would even be thinking about the NCAAs, but they've been on fire for the last six weekends and have put themselves in position to make some noise in March.

 

Wolverine Devotee

February 17th, 2020 at 7:58 AM ^

Need to just cancel the Duel in the D and put that game back on campuses.

LCA is absolute crap with zero appeal. Feels like a mall with an ice rink in the middle. Zero prestige that the Joe had.

Just my opinion tho. 

lilpenny1316

February 17th, 2020 at 11:18 AM ^

I think it's the same as missing Riverfront Stadium (Cincinnati) or Three Rivers (Pittsburgh).  They were cool in their day, but definitely showed their age when newer ballparks came up.

I always thought Tiger Stadium was timeless.  I think if the Corktown revivial would've started in the 90s, they might not have left The Corner.

Toe Meets Leather

February 17th, 2020 at 12:19 PM ^

The only reason a lot of us like the Joe was because 1) the history - the Wings won so much there over the years, and 2) we grew up going to games there so it was nostalgic and comfortable.  You have to have good teams to build history at your arena and unfortunately it hasn't happened yet.  I think once the Wings get back to the playoffs The Slice will be rocking. 

Michigan_Caltech

February 17th, 2020 at 8:29 AM ^

Great analysis. Just pointing out that while we're behind Penn State in the standings, they've played 2 more games than us. Michigan still controls their destiny in terms of a Big10 championship.

Kevin13

February 17th, 2020 at 9:06 AM ^

A loss tonight would be devastating to their chances and would put them in a spot where they would probably need to win B1G tourney to get in. Get tonight’s game and they will put themselves in a good position to make a run at an at large spot 

Sambojangles

February 17th, 2020 at 10:17 AM ^

It's almost better to be the B1G 2, 3, or 4 seed than 1, since the 1 gets a bye but the rest get a home series to get to more RPI-boosting wins. Yeah, if you're the 1 you only have to win 2 home games to get an auto-bid, but that seems like a risky play - you're in single elimination plinko territory. Of course, winning the remaining regular season games might be enough to get into safe pairwise territory, regardless of what happens in the B1G tournament.

mfan_in_ohio

February 17th, 2020 at 3:46 PM ^

The problem with that is that, with the #2 seed, a home series against Wisconsin does little to boost the RPI even with a sweep, and winning 2 out of 3 might be a net loss because home losses are given 50% more weight in the RPI than home wins.  Wisconsin might be a distant 7th in the league, but they gave Penn State a tough weekend, getting a split in two one-goal games, so they're no gimme. 

Plus I'd rather hang a regular season banner than not hang one. 

WCHBlog

February 17th, 2020 at 11:16 AM ^

I don't think an at-large bid is going to be realistic. Winning the Big Ten and then winning both tournament games is their most likely avenue if they want to get in.

umbig11

February 17th, 2020 at 11:47 AM ^

Completing the sweep against Sparty and a sweep of ND will move Michigan from 20th to 15th in the Pairwise rankings.

1North Dakota

2MSU-Mankato

3Cornell

4 (6)Boston College

5 (4)Minnesota-Duluth

6 (5)Denver

7Clarkson

8Massachusetts

9 (10)Penn State

10 (13)Ohio State

11Arizona State

12 (16)Minnesota

13 (12)Bemidji State

14 (9)Northeastern

15 (20)Michigan

lhglrkwg

February 17th, 2020 at 12:39 PM ^

Honestly, it makes sense to me. The rest of the small schools in D1 hockey will take great offense to this, but most of D1 hockey is a bunch of whodats. Even some of the better recent teams out on the plains like Minnesota State and St Cloud are going to be unknowns outside of the college hockey universe. ASU is a well known school in a nice climate. It might be tough to beat out a kid recruited by North Dakota, BC, etc. but they should be able to out recruit most of the smaller cold weather schools

Sambojangles

February 17th, 2020 at 12:43 PM ^

There are plenty of reasons. It's a huge school with the resources to compete, probably more than any except Big Ten, North Dakota, and maybe the Boston schools. It's not tied to a conference so they can schedule however they want, and they're not blocked by traditional powers in a conference. If you're a recruit, ASU is very attractive. There's more talent in California now and ASU is the closest D-1 hockey school. 

mfan_in_ohio

February 17th, 2020 at 12:31 PM ^

Also the last weekend is @Minnesota, where a split would actually improve our standing. I think finishing the season 4-1 would put us tentatively in the field pending the conference tournaments.  Part of what I was saying in the OP was that a win tonight won’t improve our ranking, but would put us within range of the bubble, while a loss would be pretty devastating to our at-large hopes.

lhglrkwg

February 17th, 2020 at 12:42 PM ^

I'm not getting my hopes up for the tournament, it's just such a steep hill to climb and Shawn Hunwick isn't walking through the door. It is very nice to see the team improving though with a few dynamite classes coming in over the next few years. This team could get back to the late 90s / early 2000s in the not so distant future

lhglrkwg

February 17th, 2020 at 1:47 PM ^

Yeah not trying to take anything away from Mann. I just mean the Hunwick team run was so incredible, that I'm skeptical I'll see Michigan hockey pull that off again. That team made the Frozen Four* in Detroit after being lifeless half the year....so maybe the stars are aligning again....for us to be epically screwed in the regional final

k1400

February 17th, 2020 at 6:07 PM ^

This pairwise crap makes my head hurt.  Is it a legit way of making comparisons between teams?  From reading the OP it sounds like pairwise hurts conferences that have good teams that beat each other.  Imagine pairwise for B1G basketball this season.