Rittenberg: 7 wins or less and RR is gone
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Some dumb Virginian broad, who is self-proclaimed hot shit, wrote in to Rittenberg claiming that RR needs 10 wins to keep his job this year. Rittenberg's rebuttal says that RR needs 8, maybe 9, wins to keep his job. This number seems to get larger and larger all the time...
The problem is, with the way our team is set up for 2011, you'd be doing the program a disservice by firing Rich Rod just because he fails to meet some arbitrary mark. Our team is stacked for 2011, and firing the coach and having to make that transition again would waste what's being built.
In my mind, I don't even count 2008 against him. More importantly, I see the future being laid for the program.
The last thing we need right now is for our program to look like a revolving door. We'll lose transfers and our recruiting will take a massive hit, regardless of who comes in (I'm hoping for Harbaugh if RR does get the boot). Kids will be afraid to come here.
April 16th, 2010 at 10:22 PM ^
Really? If you can stand in the doorway for three years, lose a bunch of games, garner NCAA sanctions and alienate a sizable portion of the fan base...the door isn't revolving. It's stuck.
Kids will be afraid to come here if we continue losing. Winning will change everything.
April 16th, 2010 at 10:44 PM ^
Revolving door? 4 football coaches in 40 years...
April 16th, 2010 at 10:58 PM ^
it will be 3 coaches in 5 years.
That's ND territory.
April 16th, 2010 at 11:34 PM ^
It'd be 3 coaches in 17 years. You can't act like Lloyd was here one year...
April 18th, 2010 at 10:27 AM ^
was that we need to avoid the *perception* that our program is a revolving door. Whether it is one taking the long-run historical perspective doesn't really matter, since most high school and college kids don't have very long memories.
Which certainly could be the start of a revolving door.
"Revolving door"...right....Using your logic, the hire of RichRod began the revolving door as he was coach number 2 in just 2 seasons. At that point, we were on pace for a new coach every year. How could any kid commit to Michigan when they so clearly had a revolving door in the coach's office?
April 16th, 2010 at 10:45 PM ^
What makes you think that if we cut ties now, we'll win soon? Don't you think continuity will be better for winning soon than another changeover?
Also, why would he be able to fire him and take his time finding a replacement? Because we'd like all the kids we're recruiting to forget about us? You really haven't thought this through too much dahblue, it sounds like you're just a dogmatic RR hater who can't look past this fall.
We are going to be stacked for 2011 and I would be really disappointed if RR didn't get a chance to coach the squad he built. If 2011 rolls around, and with "his guys" as upperclassmen and tons of returning experience he still can't win, I'll be right there with ya. Until then, it's too early to make a 9-win ultimatum.
April 16th, 2010 at 11:02 PM ^
I'd still be curious as hell to see what he would do with the team he'll have in 2011.
April 17th, 2010 at 12:30 AM ^
I'm curious as hell to see what he will do with his team THIS year. I'm not willing to give him a free pass to 2011 before this season even begins.
April 17th, 2010 at 12:56 AM ^
You and the poster above nailed it. If we suck in 2010, what make people think we'll magically get better in 2011?
Sorry. I for one am not buying this magical turned around somewhere in the future. Fans will always pin their hopes on the future, but at some point we need to see results.
I said above that I think Brandon will be lenient with RichRod. If I had to put a number on it, I'd say 7 wins total (bowl included); or 6 wins - with a few big wins and a few close losses.
If we go 5-7 again, then I don't really care to see what kind of magic we can conjure up in 2011.
April 17th, 2010 at 12:18 AM ^
Remember that sign? Yeah, that was RichRod making the whole Michigan family feel welcome. I, actually, was a big supporter initially. I was a supporter during the last season...until...maybe the Illinois game or so. It's a big mistake of blind loyalists to casually dismiss concerned alums as "haters".
By the way, what are you talking about saying that you'd "be disappointed if RR didn't get a chance to coach the squad he built". Is he the equipment manager? Frankly, I'm very hopeful for this upcoming season. I was also hopeful the last two years. We'll see.
April 17th, 2010 at 12:59 AM ^
It's just that if 2010 doesn't go so well, then I'll be out of reasons to think that 2011, 2012, or anything beyond that will go particularly well either.
I've been wrong the last two years, that's for sure.
I think the David Brandon hire actually helps RR, at least in getting to '11. I'm not saying anything new when pointing to that year as the first legitimate chance to make national noise. The Team should be ready to bust out.
Brandon won't fire Rich until at least 2011, unless he sees a regression in institutional control.
April 17th, 2010 at 12:57 AM ^
I see the first two games as being crucial to the success of the season. They are obviously swing games against opponents that represent "unknowns". They are also both at home. To me they are the difference between 9-3 and 7-5 regular season. Win or lose those, having played two games with a young team, I can see 7-3 afterwards. If we can take those two 9-3 is solidly in play, maybe even better.
I think we win both.
is in South Bend in 2010. I fear this will be enough for UofM to lose the game to the hated Domers as SB has usually been a House of Horrors for UofM.
April 16th, 2010 at 10:25 PM ^
The team goes 3-3-5 this year. Everyone knows that. Geez.
April 16th, 2010 at 10:34 PM ^
Well the Union army lost both battles at Manassas Junction, better known as Bull Run, to those pesky Confederates, but the Union Army ended up persevering and eventually subduing the Rebellion. To hell with this dumb Kelly bitch from Old Virginny, she couldn't get elected to the House of Burgesses. Really she couldn't, back in them days they didn't let woman hold public office, it was one of the many peculiarities of the day.
RR now needs to emulate Shermans march to the sea, but not onto Savannah, Georgia, and the Atlantic Ocean, but onwards through Columbus Ohio, the Midwest, ending in Pasadena, California and the 2011 Rose Bowl.
Yes, I think this dumb bitch from Manassas, Virginia, is indeed a positive omen. The Michigan God Hating Whatever you guys call it, has indeed taken a fortuitous turn from evil to good, from losing to winning, from despair to football's valhalla.
April 16th, 2010 at 11:34 PM ^
on the Big House the past two years. To my knowledge, no anesthesia was used in the many procedures. Hopefully, he'll be back to his usual self next fall.
April 16th, 2010 at 10:39 PM ^
And you know what they say about opinions...
April 16th, 2010 at 11:18 PM ^
7-5 with five losses by a total of, say, 15 points is a lot different than 7-5 with more of the 38-13 drubbings.
Remember 1996? We finished a disappointing 8-4, but we could have won every one of those games. And we know what happened the next year.
April 16th, 2010 at 11:37 PM ^
Barring a disaster, RR will be here in 2011.
Our President previously commented on the amount of time that Coach Amaker was given:
“I don't think it's fair to coaches to bring them in and say, 'We're going to give you three years,’” Coleman told the paper. "When (former Michigan basketball coach) Tommy Amaker came in, we stuck with him for six years. It just wasn't going to work; it wasn't the right fit. But it wasn't a rushed decision.”
See http://www.annarbor.com/sports/michigan-president-mary-sue-coleman-stan…
But it didn't take me six years to see that Amaker wasn't working out.
is missing a bowl game yet again a disaster? I would say so. Therefore, he needs 6 wins.
...but we're on post #103...
April 17th, 2010 at 11:43 AM ^
If Michigan goes 1-11, but that one win is the national championship, RR is set!
There's not much mention of Bill Martin. He's done an excellent job financially for Michigan. But his two biggest decisions, the hiring of Beilein and RR, have so far been disappointments. If RR ends up being a disaster and Beilein can't at least compete in the Big Ten, shouldn't the responsibilkity fall on Martin?
i feel as if rich rod has to win atleast 7 this year and that 7th win has to be against OSU. i think 7 wins and another loss to the bucks will seal his fate but i dont see him being here next year because of all the baggage and drama that he has brought to AA