OT: MSU suspends women's gymnastics coach.
Michigan State University has suspended longtime women's gymnastics coach Kathie Klages in the midst of a sexual assault investigation related to former team doctor Larry Nassar, according to an email the State Journal obtained.
So much awfulness going over there it's hard to keep track.
http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/local/2017/02/13/msu-susp…
February 13th, 2017 at 3:48 PM ^
"According to court documents filed last month, Klages is alleged to have cautioned a teenage girl in the late 1990s who brought concerns about Nassar's treatments to her that reporting could result in serious consequences for Nassar and the girl."
February 13th, 2017 at 3:58 PM ^
February 13th, 2017 at 4:10 PM ^
Hollis was too busy putting out fires to comment:
February 13th, 2017 at 4:22 PM ^
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February 14th, 2017 at 9:33 AM ^
He was supposed to be working with the selection committee for the next 2 weeks but left for MSU to do "Athletic Director Duties". My feeling is that names are coming out....
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2017/02/as_mark_hollis_reported…
February 13th, 2017 at 10:28 PM ^
knew way back then what Nassar was or at least had an idea and didn't do or say anything?!
Cover up?
February 13th, 2017 at 3:50 PM ^
Oh man, this is not good. This is institutional cover-up, with apparently unrelated but damaging issues of the same nature popping up everywhere. This is just not a good thing...
February 13th, 2017 at 5:10 PM ^
February 13th, 2017 at 8:00 PM ^
It might just come to that.
That being said, as crappy as this is, it's a chance to get right what PSU clearly failed to do. I hope MSU can take responsibility which, years later, PSU has not even come close to doing. Such an interesting sychronicity that Sandusky's kid was arrested on the same day as this revelelation.
If MSU can take responsibility, they can ultimately be forgiven and emerge better. Fuck Penn St.
February 13th, 2017 at 8:03 PM ^
Fuck Baylor too.
February 13th, 2017 at 10:52 PM ^
punishment PSU got compared to the size of the crime(s), MSU is better off denying and doing as PSU did.
If this is institutional, however, MSU deserves to get nuked. PSU still deserves it and it is disgusting they satill have an athletic department.
February 14th, 2017 at 10:51 PM ^
From a legalistic standpoint maybe, from the standpoint of public opinion not really. With PSU, Baylor and now MSU it all seems to be institutional. When that happens it's really time to clean house and start over with an apology, an effort to right wrongs, and a clean slate. Easier said than done for sure.
February 13th, 2017 at 3:52 PM ^
wtf is wrong with people?
February 13th, 2017 at 3:54 PM ^
I'm guessing Mr. Hollis is not enjoying his job very much these days. This is insane.
February 13th, 2017 at 3:59 PM ^
think it is important not to jump to conclusions regarding the football team suspensions and its possible connection to the Nassar investigation. From what I have seen, the football assault, discussed vague and broadly, took place very recently. I don't think the football team suspensions are arising from an institutional coverup, at least not the ones recently handed down. Now, could all of it together reflect on a permissive culture toward sexual assault? Absolutely, but one may have nothing to do with the other also.
February 13th, 2017 at 4:28 PM ^
Right... But that's only because they couldn't cover them up knowing this shit storm was on the horizon.
February 13th, 2017 at 4:28 PM ^
I can understand your caution and skepticism but you'll soon find out that the smoke is emanating from a big fire.
February 13th, 2017 at 4:46 PM ^
February 13th, 2017 at 4:58 PM ^
on restraint
February 13th, 2017 at 5:31 PM ^
Did you and Mark46 use the read only option in your settings?
February 13th, 2017 at 8:47 PM ^
February 14th, 2017 at 9:57 AM ^
i hate all chicago and i have no restraint
February 14th, 2017 at 12:49 PM ^
February 13th, 2017 at 6:05 PM ^
It is fun to read a lot of comments without always commenting, IMHO
February 14th, 2017 at 7:09 AM ^
February 13th, 2017 at 8:42 PM ^
February 14th, 2017 at 10:21 AM ^
Somebody call for lurkers?
February 13th, 2017 at 4:03 PM ^
Not sure if I can feel sorry for Hollis. This is starting to feel like a PSU/JoePa type thing.
February 13th, 2017 at 7:50 PM ^
February 13th, 2017 at 3:54 PM ^
This is honestly just depressing. So now in this case, abuse went on for over 17 years after there were warning signs. This is just horrendous, and looking more and more like the Penn St. situation.
February 13th, 2017 at 4:00 PM ^
The question now is how widely was this known and how high up the chain did it go. Did it somehow stop with the head coach? Were assistant coaches, other students, et al aware of this? Did any of them go over the coach's head to the AD's office, campus police, other administration? How many students were assaulted? Too early to start throwing out definite comparisons to penn state, but just a terrible, heart-breaking situation...
February 13th, 2017 at 4:24 PM ^
If this has been going on that long, one would think that, even if no one dared to go to Holls's office, he would have heard some rumors himself. East Lansing's not that big of a place.
February 13th, 2017 at 4:25 PM ^
But in regards to Michigan State University, it’s our position that Michigan State bears a large part of why this continued to happen. We have young women who notified coaches and trainers at the university going back as far as the late 90s that this was occurring to them. As opposed to the university taking any pro-active attempts to look into this further or stop Dr. Nassar or make reports to the police, they would tell the girls, “what’s happening is appropriate” and “if you tell someone, there’s going to be serious consequences.”The link is basically a transcript of the part that covers MSU and their involvement in the Nassar case. There is a link at the top to the entire 22 min. interview.
February 13th, 2017 at 4:29 PM ^
has been digging into this situation and will have its expose shortly.
February 13th, 2017 at 4:48 PM ^
February 13th, 2017 at 4:54 PM ^
http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/page/msu_doctor_alleged_sexual_assa…
I just came across this article and was surprised how in depth it is.
February 13th, 2017 at 5:42 PM ^
February 13th, 2017 at 8:34 PM ^
Really, just let it go. It was ten years and two full coaches ago. It's a simple rule: If you don't want to get caught cheating, it's best not to cheat.
February 14th, 2017 at 12:15 PM ^
Never.
February 13th, 2017 at 3:55 PM ^
It's almost as if this kind of behavior is a pattern throughout Michigan State athletics.
February 13th, 2017 at 4:03 PM ^
it may be a pattern throughout Michigan State University. Raise your hand if you have spent considerable time around MSU and did not find it a little morally sketchy, and a little...... icky.
I am not seeing that many hands.
February 13th, 2017 at 4:14 PM ^
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February 13th, 2017 at 6:10 PM ^
February 13th, 2017 at 4:40 PM ^
I rarely find myself in disagreement with your opinions, and I cannot tell if this one is tongue-in-cheek.
The standards around MSU are not what they are at Harvard and Stanford, but I do not know that if they are that different than many, many other universities, especially public ones.
Many cultures, police included, will circle the wagons when wrongdoing comes to light.
College towns and campuses can be fun, especially if you are young, but when you mix a lot of alchohol and a transient community, stuff happens.
February 13th, 2017 at 4:49 PM ^