OT: Grayson Allen starting tonight

Submitted by Go Blue in NC on January 4th, 2017 at 6:54 PM
Duke G Grayson Allen is starting tonight against GT after sitting out 1 game (Saturday's loss to VT). Was one game enough? Did Capel make the call/would he even be allowed to make that call, even though Coach K is away for 4+ weeks with back surgery? Did Saturday's loss, compounded with seeing UNC lose to this very GT team, initiate enough concern that Duke going 0-2 to start conference play would be worse than any blowback from playing Allen tonight?


East German Judge

January 4th, 2017 at 6:58 PM ^

Well, that sure was quick, must be a big game tonight.  Laettner must be so happy that there is finally another dukey who America hates more than him!

Over/Under on how many games until he trips another player and throws another hissy-fit.


January 4th, 2017 at 8:06 PM ^

Do we have other proxies for non-basketball technicals and associated suspensions?

I'm thinking a flagrant elbow swing to the face technical. A trip is less damaging than that, IMO. Do we see suspensions for the elbow technicals? If so, are they multiple games?

Fwiw, I'm totally fine with a One game suspension. He got a technical, was benched a game on top of it, and hopefully that rectifies the situation. If not, 3 game suspension next.

It's just a trip.

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January 4th, 2017 at 10:07 PM ^

Yep. Well you can't suspend him after the first time, that could've been incidental. Second time raises eyebrows so maybe you have an off-court conversation or non-public punishment to make sure it doesn't become a thing. Third time, yeah, it's a pattern...maybe you suspend him then.

In the end, maybe this suspension is one incident late...but you can't go from nothing to three game suspension. Hell, that would've been more than Suh was suspended for stomping on a dude with his previous pattern of extra-curriculars, too. 

I guess you should've suspended him half a game after the 3rd time...maybe even a full game then to show you're serious.  But alas, they can't change the past. 


January 4th, 2017 at 7:41 PM ^

I see this whole situation as overblown....I guess it's cause he's a college player...draymond green didn't trip but kicked people in the ballz....there's tripping in every soccer game...if what he did was so bad why wasn't he kicked outta games? He gets a tech so what if he gets a another he's gone, there's rules for this...another social media penalty


January 4th, 2017 at 7:44 PM ^

I really believe that Coach K had no intention of disciplining Allen. He had him apologize to the other player, just like he had done the other times, and I think he thought it would go away. To his surprise people are tired of his shit, and called out Duke up on their ivory tower. This one game was a farce, as far as I'm concerned.

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January 4th, 2017 at 11:44 PM ^

I'm convinced K only suspended Allen because if he didn't, the ACC would have, and K's press conference after the Elon game showed that more than anything else, he doesn't like being told how to run his program.  He put out an "indefinite suspension" to shut everyone up and then repealed it as soon as it was convenient.

He wouldn't have done shit if he didn't think the conference would've acted, and he only acted so they wouldn't.


January 4th, 2017 at 7:56 PM ^

light, but there is not much of a precedent for something like thiis, is there?  I mean, a continued use of a non-basketball move, that did not really injure anyone...not sure where they could look to find a similar suspension length.  

I think they suspended him for the road game, to keep the crowd off him.  They probably could have kept him out tonight against Tech and then again against Boston College, and won both games.  But I don't think they wanted him out for 3 games, to try to follow that up with road games at Florida State and Lousiville.  


January 4th, 2017 at 8:04 PM ^

I'd rather be tripped in basketball than take a charge or be elbowed ....as coach harbaugh has said, it's a knee jerk reaction....if it's so bad why don't the refs kick him outta the game bc it's a tech....similar how the targeting should be judged...once is a yellow/tech second time gone ....bc he tripped someone  twice before last year and once this year who cares he was never kicked out of a game but deserves a suspension?


January 4th, 2017 at 8:37 PM ^

the length are very unfamiliar with how this works. I guarantee if Coach K or any other coach who had a player like this in the ACC left it to the conference to suspend him, it would've been one game too. Very rarely are first suspensions for something minor like tripping people more than a game. (minor compared to people getting in trouble with the law and such)


January 4th, 2017 at 8:44 PM ^

Wrong, this goes beyond just the "crime". For that one game is not unreasonable. There are clearly emotional/psychological issues at play with him as he has a history of this sort of thing. Maybe he was "treated and released" in the short period of time but I doubt it.

This 100% reeks of desperation after just losing to VaTech coupled with coach K not wanting to lose on his way to the OR. I think it is sad and we shall see how it turns out for this kid.