OT: Grayson Allen starting tonight
January 4th, 2017 at 6:56 PM ^
I wish Draymond Green would show up out of nowhere and kick this dude in the balls
January 4th, 2017 at 6:57 PM ^
Let one douchebag teach another douchebag a lesson.
January 4th, 2017 at 7:09 PM ^
You can't triple-stamp a double-stamp!!!
January 4th, 2017 at 7:40 PM ^
It takes a douchebag to catch a douchebag.
January 4th, 2017 at 6:58 PM ^
Well, that sure was quick, must be a big game tonight. Laettner must be so happy that there is finally another dukey who America hates more than him!
Over/Under on how many games until he trips another player and throws another hissy-fit.
January 4th, 2017 at 7:23 PM ^
man. Weak, weak sauce. 1 game? You want to sell me 3? Maybe. 4? Fine. 1 game? Nice K. Real nice. Somebody put up the gif of the guy at the game with the confused "what the...." look on his face. You all know the one. That would make this thread way better.
January 4th, 2017 at 7:46 PM ^
Then we'll see who takes responsibility for reinstating Allen. I rarely root against college players but I'm making an exception.
January 4th, 2017 at 6:58 PM ^
we'll see if he's learned his lesson, but I personally doubt it.
January 4th, 2017 at 7:19 PM ^
Duke logic: Indefinite = 1 Game!
Wonder how long would "Double-Secret" Indefinite Suspension be for???
January 4th, 2017 at 8:06 PM ^
Do we have other proxies for non-basketball technicals and associated suspensions?
I'm thinking a flagrant elbow swing to the face technical. A trip is less damaging than that, IMO. Do we see suspensions for the elbow technicals? If so, are they multiple games?
Fwiw, I'm totally fine with a One game suspension. He got a technical, was benched a game on top of it, and hopefully that rectifies the situation. If not, 3 game suspension next.
It's just a trip.
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January 4th, 2017 at 8:35 PM ^
It pains me to say it, but I agree. Because it is Duke (and especially Allen!) a harsh punishment is *really* tempting. But if this was some generic player on a generic team I think I would shrug it off and accept that one game is reasonable.
January 5th, 2017 at 6:23 AM ^
quite a bit of dislike for Duke basketball, fwiw.
January 4th, 2017 at 9:48 PM ^
But it's not just a trip. It's at least the fourth time he has done it and just the first time he's gotten in trouble for it.
January 4th, 2017 at 10:07 PM ^
Yep. Well you can't suspend him after the first time, that could've been incidental. Second time raises eyebrows so maybe you have an off-court conversation or non-public punishment to make sure it doesn't become a thing. Third time, yeah, it's a pattern...maybe you suspend him then.
In the end, maybe this suspension is one incident late...but you can't go from nothing to three game suspension. Hell, that would've been more than Suh was suspended for stomping on a dude with his previous pattern of extra-curriculars, too.
I guess you should've suspended him half a game after the 3rd time...maybe even a full game then to show you're serious. But alas, they can't change the past.
January 4th, 2017 at 6:59 PM ^
Did he finally get his Range Rover in white not silver?
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January 4th, 2017 at 6:59 PM ^
Shouldn't the league take disciplinary action aside from / in addition to the school?
January 4th, 2017 at 6:59 PM ^
Throwing down the hammer!!
January 4th, 2017 at 7:21 PM ^
That guy looks like if Napoleon Dynamite and Brian Scalabrine had a kid.
January 4th, 2017 at 8:48 PM ^
I think Carl Fargus worked his way in there too.
January 4th, 2017 at 7:00 PM ^
I think you answered your own questions. Duke fans (I know a few here in NC) think that Allen (and Duke) is being persecuted for a 'personal foul.'
January 4th, 2017 at 7:10 PM ^
I didn't want to potentially poison the dialogue with my own thoughts in the OP but I think that Coach K probably planned to sit him for 2-3 games but once he lost on Saturday, he just couldn't take the risk of Capel starting out 0-2 in conference before even playing the likes of Louisville, UVA and UNC.
January 4th, 2017 at 7:01 PM ^
As long as his mentor Dre Green can continually kick people you can't really sit him.
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January 4th, 2017 at 7:02 PM ^
Coach K is a cheating douchbag
January 4th, 2017 at 7:07 PM ^
....or maybe given that he is out due to back surgery, a lying douchebag???
January 4th, 2017 at 7:07 PM ^
As a Duke alum, I'm really displeased by this.
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January 4th, 2017 at 7:10 PM ^
Tough love by Coach K /s
January 4th, 2017 at 7:16 PM ^
I'm shocked I tell you, shocked
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January 4th, 2017 at 7:41 PM ^
I see this whole situation as overblown....I guess it's cause he's a college player...draymond green didn't trip but kicked people in the ballz....there's tripping in every soccer game...if what he did was so bad why wasn't he kicked outta games? He gets a tech so what if he gets a another he's gone, there's rules for this...another social media penalty
January 4th, 2017 at 7:59 PM ^
is not a basketball play. The only purpose it to inflict possible injury. I get it, it is an impulse control thing, be he needs to check it and he doesn't seem to get that. One game is not enough.
January 4th, 2017 at 8:03 PM ^
a bad flagrant foul? Would you also propose a suspension, not just an ejection?
January 4th, 2017 at 8:20 PM ^
a third one with the same MO as the first two? Yes I would.
January 4th, 2017 at 7:44 PM ^
I really believe that Coach K had no intention of disciplining Allen. He had him apologize to the other player, just like he had done the other times, and I think he thought it would go away. To his surprise people are tired of his shit, and called out Duke up on their ivory tower. This one game was a farce, as far as I'm concerned.
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January 4th, 2017 at 11:44 PM ^
I'm convinced K only suspended Allen because if he didn't, the ACC would have, and K's press conference after the Elon game showed that more than anything else, he doesn't like being told how to run his program. He put out an "indefinite suspension" to shut everyone up and then repealed it as soon as it was convenient.
He wouldn't have done shit if he didn't think the conference would've acted, and he only acted so they wouldn't.
January 4th, 2017 at 7:52 PM ^
If it hadn't been blown up on espn or Twitter coach k wouldn't have suspended him...what's 1 game?!
January 4th, 2017 at 8:00 PM ^
Obligatory "You're"
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January 4th, 2017 at 7:56 PM ^
light, but there is not much of a precedent for something like thiis, is there? I mean, a continued use of a non-basketball move, that did not really injure anyone...not sure where they could look to find a similar suspension length.
I think they suspended him for the road game, to keep the crowd off him. They probably could have kept him out tonight against Tech and then again against Boston College, and won both games. But I don't think they wanted him out for 3 games, to try to follow that up with road games at Florida State and Lousiville.
January 4th, 2017 at 8:04 PM ^
I'd rather be tripped in basketball than take a charge or be elbowed ....as coach harbaugh has said, it's a knee jerk reaction....if it's so bad why don't the refs kick him outta the game bc it's a tech....similar how the targeting should be judged...once is a yellow/tech second time gone ....bc he tripped someone twice before last year and once this year who cares he was never kicked out of a game but deserves a suspension?
January 5th, 2017 at 8:15 AM ^
Yeah, it's not a basketball play in any shape or form. Taking a charge is part of the game, how in the hell can that be equated to this?
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January 4th, 2017 at 8:10 PM ^
I hope he fucking trips somebody
January 4th, 2017 at 8:24 PM ^
So what's going to happen when he gets to the NBA and tries to trip LeBron, Durant, Westbrook or Curry?
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January 4th, 2017 at 8:31 PM ^
I hope he trips and falls on her dick! Or wait, how does it go?
January 4th, 2017 at 8:37 PM ^
the length are very unfamiliar with how this works. I guarantee if Coach K or any other coach who had a player like this in the ACC left it to the conference to suspend him, it would've been one game too. Very rarely are first suspensions for something minor like tripping people more than a game. (minor compared to people getting in trouble with the law and such)
January 4th, 2017 at 8:44 PM ^
Wrong, this goes beyond just the "crime". For that one game is not unreasonable. There are clearly emotional/psychological issues at play with him as he has a history of this sort of thing. Maybe he was "treated and released" in the short period of time but I doubt it.
This 100% reeks of desperation after just losing to VaTech coupled with coach K not wanting to lose on his way to the OR. I think it is sad and we shall see how it turns out for this kid.
January 4th, 2017 at 10:14 PM ^
Emotional / psychological issues because he tripped up some people over two seasons? Yep, username checks out. Lol.
January 5th, 2017 at 1:46 AM ^
He was probably diagnosed with intractable douchbaggery when the physician signed for his birth certificate displaying the name "Grayson"
January 4th, 2017 at 8:38 PM ^
Someone needs to deck that guy
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January 4th, 2017 at 8:41 PM ^
"You're" absolutely right this is a minor foul that shouldn't warrant a suspension...if it was so bad then he would've been ejected
January 4th, 2017 at 8:55 PM ^
Time to begin the Grayson Allen Trip Tracker again.
Number of Games Without a Trip = "0"