One of the MSU Tunnel Assaulters facing gun charges
April 14th, 2023 at 12:38 PM ^
Was Mazi there?
Not even comparable. Why would you even bring this up?
It was not my intention to insinuate Mazi did anything wrong. My apologies to Mazi.
What in the hell was your intention?
I was being flippant and failed.
If Mazi was allowed to be innocent until proven guilty the same is afforded to them as well, as it should be. Just because they are guys with whom we have bad blood can't change that.
In the interest of full disclosure, I have not read the article so I don't know what happened but obviously no one will be convicted off of a news story.
Logged in just to down vote.....idiot.
Can I down vote your handle name?
/s
My initials? Of course you can.
You got a problem with Dan Dickerson?
Boo this man....
Normally I'm a fan of DD's, but in this instance...they just hang a little too low for my liking.
Kidding aside, innocent until proven guilty, and if guilty, I really hope this kid can get his **** straight. These kids have too many opportunities available to ruin with poor choices.
A couple more posts like this and you won't be able to start any threads.
Change your handle to Double-F because you just Freaking Failed, man.
April 14th, 2023 at 12:39 PM ^
Man. That just sucks. Hate to see young men do dumb stuff and hate to see guns not respected.
Hope he gets on the right track and receives a punishment appropriate for the issue that allows him to learn but not ruin his life, especially in light of what Mazi Smith was given.
April 14th, 2023 at 12:41 PM ^
Unfortunately things are going to get worse for him as his plea deal for the tunnel assault requires him to not commit a crime for 6 months. Not a great combination.
Considering that he goes to STAEE, are we absolutely sure that he could count to 6?
Username checks out.
April 14th, 2023 at 12:48 PM ^
"especially in light of what Mazi was given" ... ??
Maybe I didn't follow it that closely, but wasn't Mazi essentially doing what was legal, but for his permit still being in-process?
This guy is charged with a felony and a misdemeanor, with the misdemeanor being related to alcohol or drugs while in possession of the firearm.
I'm a strong 2A supporter ... active hunter and recreational shooter. And there is no place for mixing "under the influence" with firearms.
That's not remotely close to Mazi's situation.
Yeah, but if you only read the headlines, the two situations are identical...
MSU football culture. Not even a little bit surprising. Tuck comin.....so is felonious conduct
I think we’re doing this wrong. Instead of pointing out to the state slappies that the situation with Mazi & this dude aren’t the same we should agree with them that yes, they’re exactly alike and yes, everyone likes us MUCH better hence Michigan players getting preferential treatment in the press & legal system.
We should lean into their paranoia and persecution complex, not deny it, that will drive them truly insane.
How on earth can a state slappy say these are exactly the same when this guy is already facing assault charges?
You really can't ignore stacking crimes one on top of another in succession. Anyone arguing otherwise has absolutely no basic concept of the criminal justice system.
"Its a dangerous world" said his lawyer in a simple attempt at concealed carry rights and so forth. Um, yeah, your client is assaulting people, drunk and carrying a gun.
Throw their valentism's back at them. Michigan Mafia at it again!
April 16th, 2023 at 12:07 AM ^
We can build the Blue Wall brick by brick.
April 23rd, 2023 at 10:37 AM ^
They're already truly insane. At best they're truly delusional
Yeah, but if you're a OSU or MSU fan any time anyone from that school does something wrong you are contractually obligated to find something in the Big House-sized ballpark that a UM athlete did to whatabout with it.
The fact that the MSU player was in possession of a firearm while intoxicated was much different than Mazi. And it doesn’t matter if the MSU player had a permit or didn’t have a permit. That is a felony. And the charges probably include a DUI. The article didn’t state that but if he was operating the vehicle he would be charged with a DUI.
April 14th, 2023 at 11:00 PM ^
Plaxico says hi.
Under the influence with a firearm and the second time in court in 6 months? I hope he serves time.
April 14th, 2023 at 12:44 PM ^
I surprised myself at how little I care about MSU players getting in trouble. At this point, it comes across as "water is wet".
The "news" is that MSU voluntarily dismissed him from the team.
April 14th, 2023 at 12:59 PM ^
Helps that he isn’t really all that impactful.
He's likely to be involuntarily dismissed from society for a stretch.
Exactly. And who knows how much the mass casualty gun violence on campus had as much to do with his immediate dismissal as any other prior incident or charge. Spartan Strong.
It's not news - he was a nothinburger player. Remember all the plays he made last yea... (checks notes). Err...
Meanwhile if Jacoby Windmon does this he will have to run the stairs at Spartan Stadium once at 6:45 AM.
I agree. In the immortal words of Gomer Pyle, "well suuuprise, suuuprise, suuuprise!"
April 14th, 2023 at 12:44 PM ^
Will be amusing to hear how Valenti threads this needle.
April 14th, 2023 at 12:48 PM ^
He's going to say MSU threw this guy off the team and Mazi Smith played in the playoffs and the only reason no one is pointing out the hypocrisy is the BLUE WALL.
April 14th, 2023 at 12:49 PM ^
It has already started. Harbaugh should take notes, this is how you handle things, well done by Mel, too bad the prosecutor didn’t go to MSU, etc.
April 14th, 2023 at 12:51 PM ^
I would expect a whole lot of "but Mazi" ... but there is no reason to listen to Valenti ever except in the event of truly epic Sparty FAIL.
Valenti just pandering to his base. My favorite is his inconsistency on Melllll and Juwan….
1) Tuck getting ridiculed by media because of RACISM!, and all hating on Mel for the $100mm contract because he’s black! , not the 7 losses.
2) Juwan is out of control, should he be fired for bad performance (1missed ncaa tourney) and being “unhinged”?
His whataboutisms are right out of the kgb playbook.
April 14th, 2023 at 12:50 PM ^
I hope this kid gets his life on track. He's from St. Louis which is one of the most dangerous cities in America. My educated guess is he has been around guns for a very long time, and having one (legally able to conceal or not) has probably been a way of life for a lot of his upbringing. He is an adult; a young one albeit, so there needs to be accountability and consequences for doing this especially since he was under the influence.
I still hate to see lives ruined so young. He was awarded an opportunity that he definitely worked very hard for to be able to receive a free education and maybe play football at the next level. Something that could have helped him, his family, and community. Now, you gotta fear that he will end up possibly back to the environment that originally fostered this.
St. Louis - I am surprised he is being prosecuted.
April 14th, 2023 at 11:26 PM ^
I don't know where in the St. Louis area he grew up, but he graduated from a well-respected private Christian high school associated with the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod, located in the suburbs. There's no basis to assume he has been around guns, legal or illegal, his whole life.
You know, I remember being younger and being taught the guns versus butter example of a production possibility curve. This thread got me thinking that we just don’t talk enough about butter these days.
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The biggest difference between this and Mazi is alcohol, turns the charge into a felony.