Michigan: Quarterback U

Submitted by Everyone Murders on June 18th, 2014 at 8:54 AM

An ARTICLE at nfl.com analyzes which schools have produced the most quarterback talent for the NFL over the past 25 years.  Michigan comes out tops in the B1G, finishing second only to USC.  The methodology is not fully clear, but the evaluation

took into account their history of producing NFL quarterbacks over the past 25 years, the quality of signal-callers they've produced, the offense they typically run and even took a look into future a little bit to see what kind of pipeline there is for the school.

Second place in the country (really world ... really, space!) is a testament to the pedigree of the program.  Granted, the article rightly notes that Tom Brady has skewed things a bit in Michigan's favor, but the rest of the list is pretty good too.

The paragraph on Michigan states:

Thanks mostly to Brady, the Wolverines might have one of the better hit rates on sending QBs to the NFL in recent years. All seven quarterbacks drafted in the past 25 years started at least one game in the NFL and four of them have thrown for more than 10,000 yards as a pro. While it's unclear if head coach Brady Hoke will keep his job much longer, it's doubtful Michigan moves away from a pro-style offense after the failed Rich Rodriguez experiment. With a big brand name and the ability to get signal-callers from any part of the country, this is one area where Michigan wins a head-to-head with its rival, Ohio State.

So pay attention QB recruiting prospects.  Here you can play school and play ball.  And we promise never to saddle you with the likes of Lane Kiffin.

Comments

Everyone Murders

June 18th, 2014 at 9:08 AM ^

It seemed a bit negative (but in fairness Hoke's long-term future is not exactly crystal clear - I'm optimistic, but not certain that Hoke's success rate will increase in the W-L column).  NFL.com does seem to get that Michigan is unlikely to deviate from a pro-style attack in the near future, so I don't have a problem with their main point in referencing Hoke's troubles. 

Everyone Murders

June 18th, 2014 at 9:06 AM ^

Michigan State comes in at a surprising No. 9 on the list, with Jim Miller, Tony Banks, Jeff Smoker, Drew Stanton and Kirk Cousins having been drafted, and Connor Cook making a good impression. 

No other B1G school makes the list, and the highest ranked SEC team is LSU checking in at No. 5 (showing that there is some element of quantity over quality in the analysis).

MGoLogan

June 18th, 2014 at 9:14 AM ^

I would have thought Purdue would be higher than MSU.  Since 1980 they have put Mark Hermann, Scott Campbell, Jim Everett, Drew Brees, Kyle Orton, and Curtis Painter in the NFL.  Sure, Campbell and Painter were only backups, but the other four were all starters and had better careers than the MSU group, in my opinion.  

Everyone Murders

June 18th, 2014 at 9:21 AM ^

If I'm remembering correctly, there was a sense that Steinbrenner paid a premium to get Henson to sign with the Yankees, since Steinbrenner was also an OSU alumnus.  Not only did he get a good prospect, he got a chance to stick a fork in Michigan's eye - and took that chance.

So I'm with GoWings2008 here - screw Steinbrenner.  Although it would have been funny to me if a Michigan alum like the Mets owner had yoinked TPeezy from the Buckeyes, so I sort of tip my cap to Steinbrenner while cursing him.

Real Tackles Wear 77

June 18th, 2014 at 9:26 AM ^

Steinbrenner offering Henson that amount of money had nothing to do with Michigan/OSU. Henson was a big time baseball prospect and the Yankees have always paid players more than their market value if they really want them, both free agents and draft picks. Benefit of bringing in the largest profits.

Everyone Murders

June 18th, 2014 at 9:36 AM ^

I agree that Henson was a big-time baseball prospect even in high school at Howell.  Huge, in fact.  But my recollection is that Henson's dividing his attention between baseball and football during his time at Michigan was irritating both the Yankees and Coach Carr.  Steinbrenner offered Henson a large contract in large part to get him to forego playing football.

So on one hand I agree.  The Yankees almost always overpay for talent.  But I find it unlikely that Steinbrenner (an OSU alumn and supporter of OSU athletics) didn't notice that by signing Henson he was depriving "that school up north" of its starting QB.  Extremely unlikely. 

So I stand by my "stick a fork in Michigan's eye" statement.

Sllepy81

June 18th, 2014 at 9:17 AM ^

to start his own recruit at QB beyond Shane Morris so you can't really judge him. Granted he probably would've taken Gardner but who knows he might still be a WR if hoke had been coaching during RRod years because we would've never seen Denard Robinson.

mgobaran

June 18th, 2014 at 10:01 AM ^

Just saying, if we were Quarterback U, wouldn't we be number 1? 

I mean USC = Quarterback U right now. We are like, second place. That is like saying the NY Rangers are the Stanley Cup Champions because they were 2nd place.

LSAClassOf2000

June 18th, 2014 at 10:22 AM ^

The opinion in the article since it is based on cumulative pedigree in the recent past, among other things. The reason they gave for the rating on USC is an interesting but compelling one within the framework of their argument - all but two multi-game starters for USC in the last 25 years have been drafted. We can talk about the let-downs a few of those guys were in the league, but that's a phenomenal hit rate when compared to other programs really. 

As for Michigan, while it isn't at the sheer volume of USC, we've put some rather productive QBs in the NFL and I would think that might be a good case for being on the list. There's not really a reason that it must be one school, after all. 

MGoStrength

June 18th, 2014 at 10:31 AM ^

UM typically has had tall, pocket passers with big arms...Grbac, Collins, Griese, Brady, Navarre, Henne, etc. until RR came along.  The only one with some running ability to mind since Bo retired was Henson.  OSU has had their share of pocket passers too like Bobby Hoying and Craig Krenzel, but they've also had a lot of mobile QBs that can use thier feet like Troy Smith, Terrelle Pyor, Braxton Miller, Joe Germaine, Stanley Jackson.  But, it's been these guys like Smith, Pryor, and Miller that gave UM fits to defend.  I've always thought it's harder to defend a dual-threat QB.  For whatever reason it doesn't translate to the NFL though.

MGoStrength

June 18th, 2014 at 2:00 PM ^

It didn't help that his completion was like 70% against UM.  He was lights out.  Although Henne had a fantastic game in '05 too, it just wasn't enough.  '05 and '06 still haunt me as the two most important games UM just couldn't win.  If those 2 games went UMs way a lot in this rivalry would be different for the past 10 years IMO.  

MGoBender

June 18th, 2014 at 8:12 PM ^

Sorry, but only Michigan fans would see articles that name them second in both positions and call themselves QBU and OLU.

As Ricky Bobby once said, "If you ain't first, you're last."

ChiefLB

June 18th, 2014 at 10:58 PM ^

My how times have changed.  When I was growing up we always got knocked for not producing any NFL QBs.  Harbaugh was supposed to change that but as a rookie Ditka made him ride the pine.  It wasn't until Captain Comeback in Indianpolis that Harbaugh became respected.  And shortly thereafter Griese won the NC, quieting the UM QB naysayers.  With that said, IMO without Brady our QB output is a list of serviceable NFLers but no stars.