MBB 2015-16 Trending Up Posbang

Submitted by YoungGeezy on

I think we all were a little worried early on with some truly dissapointing basketball. When you pair that with an abysmal last season and losing out on some big name recruits, it would be easy to express concern over the direction of the program. 

But after the recent blowout wins (albeit against the most garbage of teams) and solid play overall from out most important contributers, I think we should start feeling good about this team. We may not be elite this season, but we are definitley a tournament team that has really turned things around in a short period of time as we assemble a solid resume.

Quality Wins:

  • Texas (8-3 with notable victories over now #7 UNC, and @Stanford)
  • @NCST (9-3 victory over potential #1 pick Ben Simmons and LSU)

Blowout Wins:

  • YSU 59 pt win
  • UNCC 55 pt win
  • DSU 47 pt win

Quality Losses:

  • #6 Xavier (12-0)
  • #18 SMU (11-0)
  • UConn (Currently 8-3 with losses to 9-3 SYR, 10-3 Gonzaga, and #4 Maryland)

Key Performers:

  • Caris Levert 17.3 pt, 5.4 rb, 4.8 a, 1.2 st, FG% .503
  • Duncan Robinson 12.5 pt, FG% .574, 3PT% .595
  • Derrick Walton 10.4pt, 4.7rb, 4.3a, 1.8st, FG% .485, 3PT% .528

SharkyRVA

December 24th, 2015 at 11:43 AM ^

The way I see it UM has 6 highly likely losses to begin with. We are lucky enough to get Purdue and MD twice, MSU, and on the road at Iowa. That leaves 12 games to get 10 wins. In other words, this Illinois game is already huge. Obviously if we can steal a game from one of the top 6 above that would be a big step towards March Madness. My predictions are below for UM getting 11 wins. Thoughts? at Illinois * W vs. Penn State * W at Purdue * L vs. Maryland * L at Iowa * L vs. Minnesota * W at Nebraska * W vs. Rutgers * W vs. Penn State * W vs. Indiana * W vs. Michigan State * L at Minnesota * W vs. Purdue * L at Ohio State * W at Maryland * L vs. Northwestern * W at Wisconsin * L vs. Iowa * W

WindyCityBlue

December 24th, 2015 at 1:08 PM ^

I watched half that game.  OSU looks like to be a much better team than us.  They have lots of talent (much more than us), but young.  I see them as a team that will come into form and be a very good team, and a very tough team to beat on the road.

I agree that Beilein is a better coach than Matta, but Matta runs circles around JB with regards to recruiting.  Matta teams always seem to have talent, and sometimes (maybe even most of the time) that is superior to teams with less talent and better coaching.

Blau

December 24th, 2015 at 12:48 PM ^

The only teams I feel comfortable declaring losses are MSU and Maryland on a level, healthy playing field. MSU even looked straight up pedestrian although against a decent Oakland team without Valentine. Actually I think if we played OU right now, it would be a very close game.

 

Also this:

aiglick

December 24th, 2015 at 11:49 AM ^

If Irvin gets his shooting stroke back we'll be very good offensively and teams will have to keep up. Our defense though requires massive improvement. If they can get to around 50th - 75th most efficient defense this could be a very good season. I do think this offense could be lethal given how many shooters we have. That defense needs to improve though.

xtramelanin

December 24th, 2015 at 11:50 AM ^

and not likely to be remedied nearly well enough to have any hope of even a .500 record in the B10.  our bigs don't anticipate, don't move well, and are physically weak.  these deficits will show up more then next 60 days.  hope for the best, but i wouldn't worry about making reservations to one of the 1st round regionals.

 

Lanknows

December 24th, 2015 at 12:11 PM ^

It's not a slam dunk that this team makes the tournament but they are a good bet to.  The D is going to be bad; it's always bad under Beilein, but especially bad now.  The bigs are bad; Beilein's proven he can win with mediocre/bad play from bigs, but they're especially bad now.

That said...there's reasons for optimism.

1. The rotation has solidified.  People now know who they are and what they are supposed to do. Roles have clarified and players are more focused.  That should help across the board, including....

2. The D should improve.  Nothing prevents Walton, LeVert, and Irvin from being bad defenders and it sounds like this is a point of emphasis with the team right now.  Dawkins and MAAR both have defensive potential and are fighting for minutes they won't get if they play bad D.

3.  The 3 point shooting is better than ANY team Beilein has ever had.  4 starters who can hit over 40% is tough for anybody to defend and Robinson is a flat-out special shooter playing around 3 guys who can create.

4.  The bigs should get better.  If for no other reason than there are 4 of them, the odds are someone is going to take a step forward during the season. It won't be a strength, but the performance floor will increment upward.

5.  The team is adapting as they learn their weaknesses.  Those triple doubles you are seeing reflect better passing (necessary with all the shooters we have) and guards rebounding more (necessary with the putrid rebounding from the center position).

6.  John MFing Beilein knows what he is doing.  Last year's rag tag group looked like it was on the verge of being a tournament-caliber team by season's end (going toe to toe with MSU, Wisconsin, etc.)  This year's team is FAR better than that team, already.

7.   Beilein teams get better.  '13-14 team that made the great 8 lost to Iowa State, Charlotte and was blown out by Duke before the calendar turned.  Though the lack of toughness was deflating, this team's 3 losses won't look any worse come March. 

 

 

alum96

December 24th, 2015 at 12:32 PM ^

Irvin regaining his shooting touch and Dawkins going back to something like he looked like the last month of last year rather than looking like a kid who has never played college bball will prob be the 2 main variables the rest of the year. 

Mo will probably have 4-5 B10 games he looks like a revelation ....and 10 he looks lost...  he is a yr away from any consistency.  I am surprised he did not play more vs these JV squads the past 4 games to get him experience for a lot better big men in conf.

Everyone else is pretty much a known commodity at this point.

Lanknows

December 24th, 2015 at 1:23 PM ^

Irvin's a shooter.  I would not consider his shot an unknown going forward.  He had back surgery and a few off games.  Sometimes shooters miss.  Sometimes it takes a few games to get back into the flow.  etc.  If Irvin doesn't shoot over 35% from 3 for the rest of the year I'll eat a bag of rocks.  I expect him to hit in the 38-42% range that you'd expect from a shooter.  Which, he is.  Irvin is a shooter. But not JUST anymore.  Still can shoot though, because he's a shooter.  [In case you can't tell I think this concern is wildly overblown.]

Dawkins is a little bit of an unknown, I guess.  Defensively, we don't know if he will play better because frankly he has stunk.  Physically he has it, mentally - ???.  While I don't expect him to hit 3s as well as he did last year, he can obviously finish.  Other than defense, I think we know what we have.  I attribute his struggles with a lack a certainty about his role.  The mystery is gone now and he's your 6th man.  This isn't last year.  He doesn't have to do much on offense and I think he knows that now.  His role probably won't grow (and we don't need it to grow) on offense until next year at the earliest.  He's a 3&D guy without the D right now.  Lets hope the D comes.

Agree on Mo.  My point is just that we have a lot of options at center, so the probability of improvement is higher.  If Mo can go from play well 1 out of 5 games to playing well 2 out of 5 games that'll be progress.

My Top 10 Unknowns for the rest of the season:

1. Doyle.  The guy can play physical and tough - we've seen it.  We haven't seen it consistently and the lack of improvement from last year is probably the most frustrating (lack of) development on the year. No reason he shouldn't be better as a roll man.  No reason he can't rebound better.  This team will go as far he takes them.

2. Dawkins on D.  Play it Aubrey!

3.  LeVert on D.  LeVert's a fantastic player right now and he can score 30 ppg if he wants.  That's not what this team needs though.  It needs somebody to get up in the face of Tremble, Valentine, and the other elite creators in this conference. NBA scouts are watching - LeVert's not going to be an elite NBA scorer, so his pitch is going to be about versatility and all-around skillset.  That means playing D.

4. Wagner.  Defense is going to be a liability until he gets stronger and smarter, but if he can draw dudes away from the rim and be a good roll man, you can see our offense clicking on all cylinders, even against MSU, Maryland, Iowa, etc.

5. Zone defense.  It needs to get better because Michigan can't go man-to-man down low all year.

6. MAAR on D.  For a guy who has a good rep for playing defense, it's not there consistently.

7. MAAR's A/TO ratio.  Last year he was a TO machine and didn't pass. Now he's the backup PG and showing signs of improved vision and more restrained shot selection.  Also he's hit a few 3s....let us hope.

8.  Kam vs Wilson.  This seems like the only legitimate playing time battle right now and we're only talking about 5-7 minutes per game tops.  Still - both have talent and if one emerges as a rebounder/defender against bigger opponents it could be win you a game or two.

9.  Donnal.  Pretty low chance that he does much but I think people should remember where Horford was when he was a skinny sophomore.  There's a chance Donnal can give you 10-15 minuts without being a liability and that would be HUGE for this team.

10.  Robinson at the 4.  I wonder if they'll try to match him up a bit against some PF types and if he can hack it without getting into foul trouble.  Watch some Novak highlights kid.

 

alum96

December 24th, 2015 at 12:12 PM ^

Looking over NC State they have 1 "quality win" and some bad losses.  Kenpom #69 below teams like Tulsa, South Dakota St, Evansville etc.  They almost lost to someting called High Point last week.  (won by 3)  Let's give that some time to breathe to detemine if it's quality. 

I agree Texas is a solid win. 

As others have said the losses are to good teams but it is one thing to lose by 6 in a spirited game and quite another to be chased out of your own gym or a neutral floor by 20 etc.

UM looks to be like one of those better mid major teams you dont want to play in round 1 ( well "2") in the NCAA becaue if they have a great shooting night you are in all sorts of trouble but 4 out of 5 nights a team with quality bigs and a top 20 roster should beat due to athleticism and defensive deficiencies. 

smwilliams

December 24th, 2015 at 12:15 PM ^

I mean, they didn't have the best non-conference slate, but it wasn't the worst outcome either. They picked up a quality neutral site win against Texas and a road win against a potentially okay ACC outfit (or avoided a bad loss to a bad ACC team), lost games to three tournament teams (1 at home, 1 on the road, 1 on a neutral court) and didn't have any bad losses.

10-8 in the Big 10 with a 1-1 record in the Big 10 tourney gets this team in in the 8-11 range.

12-6 puts them in a 5-7 seed range.

14-4 gets them a Sweet 16 seed.

jcouz

December 24th, 2015 at 12:22 PM ^

footwork, and rebounding are huge concerns. It is scary to think what big physical teams like Purdue and Sparty will do to Michigan if UM doesn't shoot out of their minds. As pissed as I was watching UM get owned in the paint by Xavier and SMU, I will be 10x as pissed watching Sparty do it. This team needs more tenacity. They need to play with more dog in them.

Black Socks

December 24th, 2015 at 12:37 PM ^

I give the team props.  That being said our bigs are soft as Charmin.  They get dominated by 6"5 guys from small schools.  The Big 10 will be a major challenge.

alum96

December 24th, 2015 at 12:42 PM ^

Current Kenpom - difficult to use now due to variability of non conf schedules but an idea at least.

  • #4 Purdue
  • #5 MSU
  • #15 Maryland
  • #17 Iowa (again as stated above a quality team)
  • #23 Indiana
  • #34 UM
  • #45 NW (11-1 but playing a lot of garbage teams like we have of late)
  • #50 OSU (bad record but very young team with athleticism that will only get better as season goes by)
  • #53 Wisc

Then a massive gap below those 9:

  • #115 Ill
  • #128 PSU
  • #130 Neb
  • #150 Minn
  • #261 rutgers

I do think of these bottom 5, Ill is underranked.  They only lost to teams like ISU by 9 and ND by 5.  We will know on 12/30.

 

Saint_in_Blue

December 24th, 2015 at 2:00 PM ^

Having 13 teams in one conference all ranked in the top 150 on Kenpom is pretty good. Rutgers is a damn anchor though. Purdue being so high blows my mind as I would rank them down near Iowa in the 15-20 range, but metrics say otherwise. I think the B1G isn't as top-heavy as they have been in the past, but is very strong in the middle. Again...........Rutgers though.

Wolvie3758

December 24th, 2015 at 12:55 PM ^

In my mind this is a HUGE HUGE game on the road...Ill be a believer again if we can win this one on the road....but right now Im not...our rpi dropped 10 spots after the Bryant game...all of these cupcakes are really hurting our rpi and I dont care for this many cupcakes..2 maybe 3 tops ...

Mr. Yost

December 24th, 2015 at 1:50 PM ^

I'll wait until they play someone with a pulse before I get too excited.

Now I don't think they're ASS. I think they're a bubble team. But I'm not going to start with the rah rah bullshit until they start beating good teams regularly.

Saint_in_Blue

December 24th, 2015 at 1:54 PM ^

If the non-conference slate is any indication of how the Big Ten season will go, Michigan will not finish top 4 in the conference. It looks like Maryland and MSU are the top two teams; the next tier consists of Iowa, Purdue, and MAYBE Ohio State after a win against Kentucky; then there's a logjam in the 3rd tier which includes Michigan. Rutgers is alone as the absolute worst team in the conference. It's hard to predict the season with so many games that are considered "toss-ups". I'd say the goal for this team is .500 or better with a win in the B1G Tourny to secure a spot in the NCAA tourny. This team is going to live on the bubble all season.

champswest

December 24th, 2015 at 2:53 PM ^

a guy puts up a posbang thread about one of our teams on Christmas Eve and he gets more down votes than up votes. And people talk about the Sparty blogs and fan base. Or, maybe the trolls are the ones doing the down voting. Not sure.

Anyway, Merry Christmas everyone.