tbeindit

October 3rd, 2011 at 2:25 PM ^

You know, it does annoy me when people fail to make that differentiation, but let's not forget that sometimes people will craft words to fit the max character count on twitter....I know I have in the past.  

Kind of a pointless rip on msu....you should at least mention 1 brawl involving a player to have a proper msu joke...

ijohnb

October 3rd, 2011 at 2:40 PM ^

do what the rest of America is doing right now.  Contemplate whether dropping thousands and thousands on a degree of higher education is really the move right now when cost of such an education is increasing rapidly and the job market for graduates in free fall.  Contemplate whether learning a trade and going into the black for a few years may make a little more sense when college graduates are stuck underneath boulders of debt with little more than a slight hope of finding a gig that is going to begin to crack that debt before reaching "retirement age."  Consider whether kids being streamlined to college without really deciding for themselves may actually be hindering American ingenuity.  Consider all of these things, and then also consider the difference between "your" and "you're."

MGoBender

October 3rd, 2011 at 2:50 PM ^

Feel free to consider.  The right choice is still college.

It all comes down to work ethic.  Work hard and you'll be successful, college or not.  Don't work hard, then don't be expected to be handed a job, college or not.

My UM degree and work ethic had me turning down job offers in a field that is very saturated.  Yeah, I'm paying off a huge chunk of my paycheck in loans, but I'm also living very comfortable doing something I love.

That's another big difference.  If you don't go to college you likely are going to end up doing something you dislike.  Is that worth not having loans to pay?

Moleskyn

October 3rd, 2011 at 3:37 PM ^

I disagree. My wife and I both graduated from college a year and a half ago, my wife is employed at a very reputable company, I'm now on my second job (quit the first one to move to Cleveland when I got married), I was able to buy my wife a really nice engagement ring without going into debt for it, and we're on pace to be out from under our student loan debt (and totally debt free!) less than two years from now; and we both attended a private university where tuition was not cheap. As Tom from AA said, if you work hard enough, the jobs are there. And if you manage your money wisely, you can set yourself up to pay down debt quickly.

LSAClassOf2000

October 3rd, 2011 at 6:23 PM ^

I was raised in a household where both parents had masters-level education - college was not only  the logical choice, it was the only one. 

A trade is indeed an education unto itself, but consider also that many jobs in the trades are just not there in the same quantity that they once were, and the unemployment rate for people without a college education is pretty high. I live in a blue-collar neighborhood in the downriver communities of Detroit. I can guarantee you that unemployment on my street is probably about 25%, and that lack of a college diploma has a lot to do with it as well as the near-death  experience of the auto  industry in America. 

Funny thing about me - I have two undergraduate degrees from  the U, and an MBA on top of that, and to get myself into my current company, I had to take a union position in what is essentially a trades-style position, so I get what you're saying - nobody around me in that position had my education, but they are no less valuable to the company.

ijohnb

October 3rd, 2011 at 3:00 PM ^

and end up doing something you love, it is worth the loans.

If you go to college and end up doing something you decided to take out huge loans in order to do before you had time to decide what you loved, it can come with regret, along with no ability to change mid-stream because of the debt.

Have I revealed a deep unsettled dissatisfaction yet.....?

ywc2003

October 3rd, 2011 at 3:22 PM ^

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Mark Hollis knows the proper use of "you're" and "your", but had to purposely misuse "your" in his last statement so the Sparty fanbase could understand what he was saying.

Red is Blue

October 3rd, 2011 at 4:58 PM ^

While we're being extremely picky (for no apparent reason), isn't the convention to list the home team second?  So, shouldn't it be Michigan vs. Michigan State?

allintime23

October 3rd, 2011 at 7:05 PM ^

Sweet profile pick as well. Not surprised, the guys amazing. Thanks to him I have a picture of izzo and the situation just waiting to be used thus winter.