Hoke on Tressel
Brady Hoke comments (in MGoBlog's Favorite Newspaper) on Tressel:
http://www.freep.com/print/article/20110309/SPORTS06/110309037/Michigan…-
Regular version, in case the Print one expires:
http://www.freep.com/article/201103091350/SPORTS06/110309037
His remarks seemed too unrehearsed and off-the-cuff for my taste. Just saying Tressel is a "good man" (however preposterous that might be to some) and a "good coach" (much more supportable) would be fine.
But adding "... they'll fight through that situation ..." and then "... I don't know that situation ..." is, at best, awkward. Why say anything like that? Certain other coaches at UMich have been tattooed for being "unpolished."
One wonders what Corporate Guy Brandon (who would not be expected to shoot from the hip) thought when reading that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7rwjB5vo7I&feature=fvsr
Watch about 1:30 in. It's awesome.
Outstanding ... thanks.
I imagine Brandon feels just fine reading the following quotes from Hoke;
"He's a good man, and I have a lot of respect for him, and they'll fight through that situation, and it will have no effects on the rivalry," Hoke said today during a meet-and-greet luncheon with his coaching staff.
"I've known Jim Tressel a long time. He's a quality guy, a doggone good football coach, and I don't know that situation," Hoke said. "I know what we're focused on at Michigan."
That's essentially coach speak for 'no comment.' Any of 1000 coaches in D1 (if there were so many!) could have said that.
The fact that you, Jasper, find this 'unpolished' or in some way objectionable clearly says more about your opinion of Hoke than anything.
and not bash any one particular person of your rivalry. To me it's just fine to say you hate OSU but don't jump on one guy and pile on. I'm not gonna look to far into the fact he said Tressel was a good man and not just a good coach because that might just be his standard complement to someone. I would have liked to have seen maybe a back-handed complement to Boren's "not a family" comment about us. Could be something along the lines of "I think Tressel is a good man but I hope with the drug trafficing investigations and a coach asked to keep silent about any situations that may arise, that the parents of the players feel good about the state of affairs at the university."
Classy response by Hoke.
As shocking as it may be, Tressel is a good man. He made a mistake. It happens. He'll pay a price. Hopefully he'll learn from it.
What sold you on that, the spectacles or the vest? Please qualify statement.
Personal contact with him. Other people's stories about things he has done. Contact he has had with my family, etc..
Frankly, I don't give a rat's ass about what Brady Hoke says about Jim Tressel, the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, the Afghanistan situation, Canada, or Alzheimer's research. He's a football coach, and hopefully he's a good one. If he can raise a little bit of money for Mott Children's Hospital and do a few other good deeds on the side, then good for him.
Let's not put the head football coach on a pedestal where he has to be a spokesman for his counterparts, the world, etc. He's not running for President.
In a perfect world that would be the case.
the words "Ohio" and "State" have still never come out of his mouth. +1 Coach Hoke!
Hey, remember when Tressel came out and supported Michigan after the Freep story broke? Like it or not, most coaches likely have a lot of respect and might even be friends with each other, no matter what schools they coach for. In another world, Hoke and Tressel might have been working on the same staff and good friends.
Of course, this doesn't apply to Saban. I don't know if any other coach in the world could stand him.
And you just beat me to making this post. Tressel was very generous to our cause when the ink was still wet on the 8/30/09 Sunday Free Press. And I am not going go forget that. I respect Jim Tressel. (Tim Brewster of Minnesota was the other guy who spoke up.)
"No comment" would have been a stupid and churlish thing for Hoke to say. I think Hoke handled this just right.
To ignore that the Vest didn't throw us under the bus, then turn around and do it to him. Give him a compliment, benefit of the doubt, but then don't say anything that might get proven wrong if they get hammered. Brady handled it perfectly. It's "our" job to trash Tressel, not his.
Are you kidding me? I seriously think he said everything correct. He doesn't know the situation so he didn't talk about it. (No one really knows except tressel and gang) All he said was that he is a good coach, which is very true.
I'm in the minority, perhaps, but I think Hoke should seize the day. He shouldn't comment on the details, of course. And he shouldn't personalize it or go overboard. But I'd be thrilled if he took a subtle dig at OSU. Reference Gee's idiotic comment or somesuch. Make a little splash.
This is an awful awful idea.
What's worse than "awful"?
Terrelle Pryor?
Pryorific?
I'm still waiting for a picture of Brady Hoke on top of Jim Tressel (ie, Hoke on Tressel).
The hideousness of that [foot] thought will haunt my dreams forever.
Wish I knew how to cross out text...
Did anyone really expect Hoke to say otherwise? That's pretty much what you should say to the press in this situation, regardless of how you might feel deep within. Why get yourself in hot water? Watch Tressel simmer from afar.
Hoke is on the precipice of saying something really bone-headed. Something that would get him in trouble with the media. While I don't think this instance is it, I think he needs to improve his public speaking. He by no means needs to be a classic orator, but something better than what he exhibits now.
I think too many people on this board undermine the importance and good media etiquette. I was thinking last night how bad JT was with the media - imagine if were BH up there in front of all those media vultures. Yikes!
I wouldn't expect Hoke to say anything bone-headed while running a clean program. If he does something against the rules he may not be skilled at talking his way out of it. I expect him to run a clean program and hold everyone accountable. If he fails to do that, then yes, he may say something bone-headed. Other than that he seems like an upfront guy.
....but I a more concerned with how he handles himself after a tough loss. I'm sure we are going to have our fair share of those (probably more than most in the next couple years).
I am of a different opinion. I believe off-the-cuff statements are much safer than carefully calculated statements. They are usually more truthful, and are rarely dissected to the Nth degree. A polished speaker is polished for a reason. They are full of horsedung and they have to carefully craft their words to seem otherwise, and those carefully crafted words are deconstructed until the break of dawn. In this chaotic world full of unseemly pretzels and chainsaw lightswitches, good media etiquette is a devil's party, and Hoke's spontaneity is the sign of championship thighs. He obviously defeats those earthworms with his words. Keep talking with your heart, coach.
Step back from the precipice and take a look at your writing. Bonehead is as bonehead does.
...what is so bone-headed about my writing? I'm looking for tips to improve. Any help in this regard would be greatly appreciated.
You should edit your writing. See a few suggestions, below.
Hoke is on the precipice of saying something really bone-headed [cliche, becomes mixed metaphor ] [Something --cut and continue with "that"] that would get him in trouble with the media. While I don't think this instance is it [what does "it" refer to? something? or, "that would get him in trouble"?] , I think he needs to improve his public speaking. He by no means needs to be[come] a classic orator, but he needs to improve.
something better than what he exhibits now.[cut this wordy phrase]
I think too many people on this board underestimate
undermine the importance and [cut this wordy phrase]
good media etiquette. I was thinking[do you mean you were thinking last night about JT,or do you mean that JT handled the media badly last night? ] last night how badly JT handled the media. -[Can you] imagine if [it] were BH [standing]
up there in front of all [cut this wordy phrase]
before those media vultures. Yikes!
thx!
I mean. Thank you for correcting my colloquial style of writing. I should know better than to write in this style on a blog.
let's face it, no one's going to be coming to Brady Hoke for brainy or cogent observations on such subjects EVER. If he succeeds it will be as the uncomplicated and utterly unegotesticle beloved and inspirational (etcetera) leader of our gritty gridiron squad(s). Thoughtful members of the jury are still out, and may be for some time. . .
I know someone else no one is coming to for brainy comments...
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<br>Though it does sound painful.
take in, my tired friend. When Brady Hoke utters anything but a cliche, the heavens will crack open and serpents pour forth from them. Even the people who are geeked on him understand that.
March 10th, 2011 at 12:04 PM ^
Is that you?
As I recall, Tressel referred to Rich Rod as a good coach in his public statements and did not pile on with the Freepsters over stretching gate.
I think Tressel`s in trouble, deservedly, for lying to the media, hiding information from his AD and from the NCAA, and I hope that the NCAA holds him to a much stricter account than has his school. Brady Hoke, however, handled the question as a fellow coach should handle it. He expressed respect for Tressel and declined to comment on the the situation. I'm fine with that.
barf bag.
Brady Hoke is no Shakespeare but you are reading into things that just aren't there. I think he answered everything just fine...
what Hoke said, which strikes me as perfect. Absolutely perfect. I would have remembered no comment. This one, nope, can't recall.
It is Brady Hoke's job to not give any school, especially TSIO, any bulletin board material. Since every reporter except Angelique is always trying to elicit controversy in every interview, this is no small feat.
This was a great job by Hoke and I expect to see more of the same in the future. While Hoke is very media-friendly, and the media have treated him very well so far, don't think for a second that he doesn't know how fast the media will take controversy and run with it, often creating it out of thin air if there isn't any.
There will be no Dantonio-isms coming out of Ann Arbor.
- He is aware of the basketball team's bubble status
- A shady character is head of the selection committee
"They'll get through it, but I have never experienced this problem myself."
Until the guy starts getting crushed by our conference on a consistent basis, let's give him the benefit of the doubt. I get the impression that pro-RRs are saying "what the hell??? why would RR have been ripped for something like this and Hoke gets a free pass?" Answer: The dude hasn't even played a game yet and has done everything else as well as possible. If he puts out a mediocre product for 3 years, he will be more closely scrutinized for these things.
I don't think RR would have been criticized for saying this. (Not everything he did got him flack.) Heck, he largely said the same thing this morning.
March 11th, 2011 at 11:42 AM ^
We have our own dag-gone Bill Stewart. (Sorry, reading the article yesterday about WVU and Dana Holgorsen made me a sad panda again.)