GONZO735

January 30th, 2010 at 1:15 AM ^

But if this is indeed true, that kid can stay his ass in Florida, I don't want him. There aren't a whole hell of alot of ways to get charged with robbery with a deadly weapon without actually doing it. Unless this is mistaken identity or a hoax, that kid can keep his troubles in his own hood..........

Geaux_Blue

January 29th, 2010 at 8:22 PM ^

did you even bother to see the incident was in June of 2008? do you think these schools magically haven't found out or were aware of the incident when they offered a year or more later? that people on the internet discovered a felony charge that was never disclosed by his coaches, administrators, etc? this shit would be on his school record, let alone the material provided to schools interested in a player.

you figured nothing.

Geaux_Blue

January 29th, 2010 at 8:35 PM ^

my point is i find it insanely arrogant that someone claims they 'thought something was fishy' all along while Florida just found out recently and dropped their offer. there's about 15 other reasons Florida may have dropped him. if you don't think someone with what appears to be TWO felony charges had this information widely known is ridiculous.

if the NCAA recruiting system is not transparent enough where teams are being surprised by charges that were filed between a year and a year and a half ago i'll eat my weight in bologna. you think somehow coaches are unaware, the school is unaware, his parents felt like they could hide public record and only recently Florida hired the A-Team to find this out?

i'm getting increasingly annoyed by posters on here acting like they're masters of the recruiting terrain and understand complexities that the coaches are still working on. like they're the Good Will Huntings of things that if only coaches would hire them everyone would be saved.

aaamichfan

January 29th, 2010 at 8:42 PM ^

So let me get this straight.

Somehow, from my statement "I figured something was fishy about Florida dropping him" you have somehow twisted in your head to mean that I believe I am a "master of the recruiting terrain and understand complexities that coaches are still working on".

It's Friday night. Relax for an hour or two.

Take a deep breath before your next post for the sake of everyone.

aaamichfan

January 29th, 2010 at 9:04 PM ^

If he doesn't have the grades to get into Florida, I can't imagine he would be able to qualify at Michigan. His unwillingness to commit fully certainly could have played a role, but he was kicked to the curb pretty quickly IMO for that being the only justification.

mtzlblk

January 30th, 2010 at 3:52 PM ^

If Florida has a full house in terms of DB recruits and some recruits at a position of need are looking at the number they have offered v. the avaiable slots and have some doubts about their position in the class, it absolutely makes sense that FL would solidify their class numbers by removing a player that isn't fully committed at a position where they are stocked. Especially when Florida's position on him taking more visits was fairly common knowledge to those that follow recruiting.

It makes much more sense than thinking they have had a player committed to their class for a long time and just now, less than a week before signing day, dug into his background and summarily drop him b/c of a 2-year old charge for which he was acquitted.

I think the objection to your statement that something was 'fishy' is that it was made without knowing anything else and simply jumps to the worst conclusion without bothering to look into any other possible factors.

The Other Brian

January 29th, 2010 at 10:10 PM ^

I normally don't do this, but lol @ whoever negged my post.

Maybe it's because I was too vague. Hopefully this will be clearer:

Needed position? They have Ahmad Black, Josh Evans, Dee Finley and Will Hill already on campus, and have Jonathan Dowling, Matt Elam, Jordan Haden and Josh Shaw (who may be a safety) committed. Dorsey was a luxury to them.

No apparent reason? It was known WEEKS ago that they told Dorsey he would no longer have a scholarship to Florida if he continued to take visits. He visited FSU...and the Gators told him to kick rocks.

He was committed to Florida for 15 months. They didn't just magically find out about some character issues two weeks before he was scheduled to sign with them. They dumped him because they didn't want to deal with him looking around anymore.

KinesiologyNerd

January 29th, 2010 at 8:10 PM ^

This is from a year and a half ago and I have to think the coaches know about it. It would be interesting to see what came of the charges. I just feel like all these high-profile schools wouldn't want to recruit somebody convicted of robbery with a deadly weapon.

EDIT: OK probably Florida and USC, but RR wouldn't want that time bomb on his hands.

Dark Blue

January 29th, 2010 at 8:15 PM ^

To quote Rilo Kiley, "Everyone fucks up its going to be okay"

Kids make mistakes, lets let this one go until one of the coaches addresses it. Remember these kids do read this blog.

Dark Blue

January 29th, 2010 at 8:56 PM ^

Kids fuck up, some worse than others. It's nice to know that there are people out there like you who don't believe in second chances. I'm not saying what this kid may or may not of done is right, all I'm saying is lets hold off on making judgments, if Coach Rodriguez thinks he's good enough for Michigan, than thats good enough for me.

Captain

January 29th, 2010 at 9:44 PM ^

I absolutely believe in second chances, but nowhere in that bargain does it demand that we act as though the felony never happened. Part of being given a second chance is learning from the prior mistake. To do that, one cannot be shackled by a bad decision, but nor can one be entirely immunized from adverse consequences.

The difficult question is where the limit on those adverse consequences should lie, and you and I seem to disagree as to whether we should refrain from discussing the matter until a coach weighs in on the subject. (Unless you meant something else by "lets let this one go until one of the coaches addresses it").

Blue_Bull_Run

January 29th, 2010 at 9:43 PM ^

Sure, it might have been a one time thing. Or, it's possible that the crowd he hangs with thinks its normal for everybody to be packing heat.

I have no patience for that kind of crowd - RichRod better (and surely will) do a ton of due diligence to see whether it was an isolated instance, or the norm.

mtzlblk

January 30th, 2010 at 3:41 PM ^

For all you know it was a case of mistaken identity and court proceedings convined the jurors of that.

Being charged with a crime in no way impunes the kid's rep in my eyes unless he is found guilty.

If you are in the wrong place at the wrong time and match the description of someone that just committed armed robbery, you could get picked up, charged and have to clear your name in court. Would that constitute 'past activity' on your part?

Geaux_Blue

January 29th, 2010 at 8:19 PM ^

http://tinyurl.com/yfomf4w

keep in mind this

What is "Disposition Entered*"?

Case and count status of "disposition entered" signifies that although either a Court ruled on or disposed of the underlying case or count, or it was otherwise disposed of by operation of law, it nonetheless allows for the possibility that there may still be other actions or matters pending or due on or related to that case or count, including but not limited to, fine, fee or cost payments due; probation, restitution or special conditions pending; attorney's fees motions pending; defendant declared unable to stand trial and committed to a hospital; appeals pending; and others. Again, for complete and accurate information, you are cautioned to consult the official records of the Clerk of Court, which are only those records which are kept in the court files in the Clerk of Court's office in the Broward County Courthouse.

The fact all of these coaches are piling on for the kid should bring to light either
a) it's somehow not the same Demar Dorsey
b) charges were pushed aside for the sake of a misunderstanding
c) who the hell knows

sec20

January 29th, 2010 at 8:27 PM ^

I thought Juvenile records are sealed, Like with Justin Feagin no one knew about his prior problems becasue his recored were sealed, I am not sure if this is true but I thought I heard this somewhere. or I could be making it up