Demar Dorsey and Possible legal issues?
Just saw this at GBW and didn't see it here.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:03 PM ^
it isn't coming through.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:05 PM ^
not good.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:05 PM ^
how do i make it into a link?
January 29th, 2010 at 8:10 PM ^
try www.tinyurl.com, as your link appears to use every character, symbol, and number on the keyboard several times.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:15 PM ^
you get a +1 for directing me to that site.
I always saw that "tinyurl" thing as links, but never knew what it was. Now, I do
January 29th, 2010 at 8:12 PM ^
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Interesting that this is from '08 and is the first I've heard of it.
January 31st, 2010 at 10:59 AM ^
Makes me wonder about the authenticity of the link/site it is linked to. Can't believe that the press (Freep) wouldn't have been all over this earlier.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:06 PM ^
Its pretty long, just copy and paste it in.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:11 PM ^
I don't know if this was in response to me or not, but Im the one who posted it. How do I make the long thing underlined in blue aka a link to the site. Don't post much so I don't know how to do it.
January 30th, 2010 at 1:15 AM ^
But if this is indeed true, that kid can stay his ass in Florida, I don't want him. There aren't a whole hell of alot of ways to get charged with robbery with a deadly weapon without actually doing it. Unless this is mistaken identity or a hoax, that kid can keep his troubles in his own hood..........
January 30th, 2010 at 3:56 PM ^
and who is to say that it wasn't mistaken identity?
Remember, he was acquitted and there are fewer ways to skate any substantive charges of armed robbery than there are to be wrongly accused.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:08 PM ^
I've gotta be honest, this is not extremely surprising news.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:10 PM ^
Why is this not surprising?
January 29th, 2010 at 8:12 PM ^
I figured something was fishy when Florida dropped him.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:22 PM ^
did you even bother to see the incident was in June of 2008? do you think these schools magically haven't found out or were aware of the incident when they offered a year or more later? that people on the internet discovered a felony charge that was never disclosed by his coaches, administrators, etc? this shit would be on his school record, let alone the material provided to schools interested in a player.
you figured nothing.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:26 PM ^
He has two felony charges.
Florida randomly drops a player at a needed position for no apparent reason.
No, nothing possibly fishy about that situation.........
January 29th, 2010 at 8:35 PM ^
my point is i find it insanely arrogant that someone claims they 'thought something was fishy' all along while Florida just found out recently and dropped their offer. there's about 15 other reasons Florida may have dropped him. if you don't think someone with what appears to be TWO felony charges had this information widely known is ridiculous.
if the NCAA recruiting system is not transparent enough where teams are being surprised by charges that were filed between a year and a year and a half ago i'll eat my weight in bologna. you think somehow coaches are unaware, the school is unaware, his parents felt like they could hide public record and only recently Florida hired the A-Team to find this out?
i'm getting increasingly annoyed by posters on here acting like they're masters of the recruiting terrain and understand complexities that the coaches are still working on. like they're the Good Will Huntings of things that if only coaches would hire them everyone would be saved.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:42 PM ^
So let me get this straight.
Somehow, from my statement "I figured something was fishy about Florida dropping him" you have somehow twisted in your head to mean that I believe I am a "master of the recruiting terrain and understand complexities that coaches are still working on".
It's Friday night. Relax for an hour or two.
Take a deep breath before your next post for the sake of everyone.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:51 PM ^
it wouldn't be the first time you've ranted on here about being all-knowing.
btw, it's way more likely that Florida cooled on him because of his academics and unwillingness to commit fully.
January 29th, 2010 at 9:04 PM ^
If he doesn't have the grades to get into Florida, I can't imagine he would be able to qualify at Michigan. His unwillingness to commit fully certainly could have played a role, but he was kicked to the curb pretty quickly IMO for that being the only justification.
January 30th, 2010 at 3:52 PM ^
If Florida has a full house in terms of DB recruits and some recruits at a position of need are looking at the number they have offered v. the avaiable slots and have some doubts about their position in the class, it absolutely makes sense that FL would solidify their class numbers by removing a player that isn't fully committed at a position where they are stocked. Especially when Florida's position on him taking more visits was fairly common knowledge to those that follow recruiting.
It makes much more sense than thinking they have had a player committed to their class for a long time and just now, less than a week before signing day, dug into his background and summarily drop him b/c of a 2-year old charge for which he was acquitted.
I think the objection to your statement that something was 'fishy' is that it was made without knowing anything else and simply jumps to the worst conclusion without bothering to look into any other possible factors.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:42 PM ^
what? arrogance on this site? noooooooo.......
January 29th, 2010 at 8:37 PM ^
Needed position?
No apparent reason?
January 29th, 2010 at 8:55 PM ^
for noticing it also
January 29th, 2010 at 10:10 PM ^
I normally don't do this, but lol @ whoever negged my post.
Maybe it's because I was too vague. Hopefully this will be clearer:
Needed position? They have Ahmad Black, Josh Evans, Dee Finley and Will Hill already on campus, and have Jonathan Dowling, Matt Elam, Jordan Haden and Josh Shaw (who may be a safety) committed. Dorsey was a luxury to them.
No apparent reason? It was known WEEKS ago that they told Dorsey he would no longer have a scholarship to Florida if he continued to take visits. He visited FSU...and the Gators told him to kick rocks.
He was committed to Florida for 15 months. They didn't just magically find out about some character issues two weeks before he was scheduled to sign with them. They dumped him because they didn't want to deal with him looking around anymore.
January 29th, 2010 at 10:12 PM ^
hell, my score updates were getting similar attention
you're still the only other brian in my heart.
January 30th, 2010 at 2:50 PM ^
florida has plenty of DB talent to fill his spot and they didnt appreciate his looking around at other schools. not very fishy
January 29th, 2010 at 9:06 PM ^
for getting Meyer to take you?
January 29th, 2010 at 8:09 PM ^
Robbery with a deadly weapon at 16? Wow I guess he'd fit in at Free Shoes U though.
January 29th, 2010 at 9:06 PM ^
I didn't think Wisconsin was recruiting him.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:10 PM ^
This is from a year and a half ago and I have to think the coaches know about it. It would be interesting to see what came of the charges. I just feel like all these high-profile schools wouldn't want to recruit somebody convicted of robbery with a deadly weapon.
EDIT: OK probably Florida and USC, but RR wouldn't want that time bomb on his hands.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:15 PM ^
To quote Rilo Kiley, "Everyone fucks up its going to be okay"
Kids make mistakes, lets let this one go until one of the coaches addresses it. Remember these kids do read this blog.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:48 PM ^
Armed robbery = no worries, kids make mistakes?
Despite what you may have heard to the contrary, not everybody murders, kills people, steals from you, or steals from me.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:56 PM ^
Kids fuck up, some worse than others. It's nice to know that there are people out there like you who don't believe in second chances. I'm not saying what this kid may or may not of done is right, all I'm saying is lets hold off on making judgments, if Coach Rodriguez thinks he's good enough for Michigan, than thats good enough for me.
January 29th, 2010 at 9:44 PM ^
I absolutely believe in second chances, but nowhere in that bargain does it demand that we act as though the felony never happened. Part of being given a second chance is learning from the prior mistake. To do that, one cannot be shackled by a bad decision, but nor can one be entirely immunized from adverse consequences.
The difficult question is where the limit on those adverse consequences should lie, and you and I seem to disagree as to whether we should refrain from discussing the matter until a coach weighs in on the subject. (Unless you meant something else by "lets let this one go until one of the coaches addresses it").
January 29th, 2010 at 9:43 PM ^
Sure, it might have been a one time thing. Or, it's possible that the crowd he hangs with thinks its normal for everybody to be packing heat.
I have no patience for that kind of crowd - RichRod better (and surely will) do a ton of due diligence to see whether it was an isolated instance, or the norm.
January 30th, 2010 at 1:21 AM ^
I LOVE Michigan Football.....I LOVE Michigan......I would NEVER recruit a kid who was charged with ANY VIOLENT crime......I understand mistakes, just not when it involves violent crime. The best predictor of future behavior is PAST behavior......
January 30th, 2010 at 3:41 PM ^
For all you know it was a case of mistaken identity and court proceedings convined the jurors of that.
Being charged with a crime in no way impunes the kid's rep in my eyes unless he is found guilty.
If you are in the wrong place at the wrong time and match the description of someone that just committed armed robbery, you could get picked up, charged and have to clear your name in court. Would that constitute 'past activity' on your part?
January 29th, 2010 at 9:00 PM ^
drop him. i would rather play walk ons than criminals. just my opinion.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:17 PM ^
eeek.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:44 PM ^
every time i see your user name i think of the movie hackers and Zero Cool. i love that movie
January 29th, 2010 at 9:08 PM ^
Yea! Early Angelina Jolie flick, with her first husband, Jonny Lee Miller, aka Zero Cool, aka Crash Override.
January 29th, 2010 at 10:04 PM ^
From Trainspotting.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:18 PM ^
Sounds like a great fit for Miami.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:19 PM ^
keep in mind this
What is "Disposition Entered*"?
Case and count status of "disposition entered" signifies that although either a Court ruled on or disposed of the underlying case or count, or it was otherwise disposed of by operation of law, it nonetheless allows for the possibility that there may still be other actions or matters pending or due on or related to that case or count, including but not limited to, fine, fee or cost payments due; probation, restitution or special conditions pending; attorney's fees motions pending; defendant declared unable to stand trial and committed to a hospital; appeals pending; and others. Again, for complete and accurate information, you are cautioned to consult the official records of the Clerk of Court, which are only those records which are kept in the court files in the Clerk of Court's office in the Broward County Courthouse.
The fact all of these coaches are piling on for the kid should bring to light either
a) it's somehow not the same Demar Dorsey
b) charges were pushed aside for the sake of a misunderstanding
c) who the hell knows
January 29th, 2010 at 8:23 PM ^
It's definitely the same Dorsey, same birthdate and everything, the coaches must know something that we don't.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:24 PM ^
Another felony charge 6 months earlier.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:27 PM ^
I thought Juvenile records are sealed, Like with Justin Feagin no one knew about his prior problems becasue his recored were sealed, I am not sure if this is true but I thought I heard this somewhere. or I could be making it up
January 29th, 2010 at 8:32 PM ^
I thought the same thing, but I think if a little google stalking can find, the coaches will find it. Maybe Feagin was a special case.
January 29th, 2010 at 8:33 PM ^
Maybe he was charged as an adult, rather than a juvi?