Dave Brandon watches film w/coordinators WITHOUT Hoke
Saw this roll across my feed. These guys have 59,000 followers and are followed by some prominent people like Angelique, Bogenschutz and Bob Stitt(!).
The strangest thing I’ve heard about Dave Brandon is that he watches film on Sundays with the coordinators individually (without Hoke).
— FootballScoop Staff (@FootballScoop) October 2, 2014
If now isn't the most necessary time to play this, I don't know when is.
October 2nd, 2014 at 3:40 PM ^
In 7 habits of highly effective people. . .
October 2nd, 2014 at 3:44 PM ^
October 2nd, 2014 at 3:51 PM ^
Normally, something based on a single tweet framed like this would go, but here's this -
LINK - from last November.
"Hoke appreciates the support he gets publicly and privately from Brandon. The athletic director and former Michigan football player said he attends one or two practices each week and watches film with both coordinators the day after every game."
It doesn't necessarily mean Hoke is not there, but it means that Brandon definitely is.
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:11 PM ^
I love how everyone references Brandon's time "playing" under Bo. Did he even see any real game time?
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:17 PM ^
According to Bando Calrissian he played exactly one snap in four years. Brandon isn't in the statistical archive database so he must've done nothing on that play.
He only lettered one year. Yet he acts like he was Dave Gallagher or something with him going on the 1973 Tiebreaker documentary. Pathetic, really.
October 2nd, 2014 at 3:51 PM ^
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW.
Bradon comes over with his playbook, other coaches not paying attention, then he switches it with Nuss's playbook. Nuss takes it next day, hand to secretary.Copies get made, handed out to players.
What was: Jumbo Right 26 Power
Now: 26 Right Pepperoni where OL pass blocks for a running play
They should have noticed the pizza smell!
October 2nd, 2014 at 3:54 PM ^
The guy who runs FBS is the brother of the guy who runs coachingsearch. He’s a reliable source.
This is most likely true.
October 2nd, 2014 at 3:56 PM ^
Dave Brandon is in no way shape or form a football coach. I could maybe get sitting down with Brady, but sitting down with the coordinators does....what? You gonna tell two guys who have been coaching their whole careers: "Hey Greg, you should think about having your guy make the tackle there". "Ok thank you Mr. Brandon"
October 2nd, 2014 at 3:59 PM ^
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:05 PM ^
setting in with the offense, but those guys were players. DB not so much so.
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:11 PM ^
I could imagine Bo or Barry Alvarez sitting in--they'd actually have something to contribute. Did it ever happen?
October 2nd, 2014 at 11:52 PM ^
Bo always said he didn't want to overshadow Mo and Lloyd. I believe he mainly only offered his opinion if they directly asked.
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:05 PM ^
Brandon put on a Brady Hoke costume a la undercover boss.
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:08 PM ^
self made note of Morris starting Saturday and thought that might be Nuss' idea. My worst case was that it was Brandon's idea.
this actually might make that plausible.
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:23 PM ^
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:28 PM ^
...if it were Nussmeier's idea. He's the OC and he's the QB position coach. The decision is ultimately Hoke's to sign off on, but who would know better than Nussmeier where things stand with the quarterbacks? I'd be disturbed if he wasn't part of the conversation.
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:14 PM ^
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:16 PM ^
Is this before or after he is breaking down rowing tape with our coxswain?
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:19 PM ^
I've followed these guys on twitter for quite awhile. They're extrememly well-connected in the coaching community and they don't tweet something unless there's good reason for it. I do believe they were the ones that broke the Nussmeier hire back in January. So... what I'm saying is, this is almost certainly true. Now, notice they didn't say how frequently this happens. But the thought of it still makes me cringe and is consistent with the other things we know about Brandon re: micromanagement. And who introduced Nussmeier at his presser, after all?
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:21 PM ^
Now, is it with coordinator w/o Hoke? I'm not sure, but my guess is that's true b/c why wouldn't he, based upon these statements he's made (from Huge Show in 2010)? Only way he would NOT is if Hoke somehow stopped him (Brandon's comments below are from RR's last year).
""I'm going in those locker rooms before the game, during the game and after the game and practices, seeing how the team responds in difficult situations. Going over the game films and finding out exactly where the breakdowns occur and why they occur. I do that. I don't know if that's normal or not, but I understand, and I can tell you when it's real time? on television with the angles and such you don't get a real sense for what's happening. You almost have to play the play back five or six times to see where did we get it right and where did we get it wrong.
"I'm sitting in on film sessions and having the opportunity to really look at how the game's unfolding, because I want to know. It's a big part of our program. I tell people all the time, the University of Michigan athletic department cannot be successful unless Michigan football leads our success. Mark Twain once said, 'if you put all your eggs in one basket, you'd better watch your basket.' Football is our basket, so I watch it very carefully. That's my job, and I do that."
http://southeasternohiopreps.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=74500&p=1772473
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:56 PM ^
Atleast this explains why the basketball program is so successful..
October 2nd, 2014 at 5:14 PM ^
I know many people have said they heard this before, but here is an actual quote from Brandon and discussion of the process (at least from last year). From a Detnews article in 2013:
"Hoke appreciates the support he gets publicly and privately from Brandon. The athletic director and former Michigan football player said he attends one or two practices each week and watches film with both coordinators the day after every game.
“That’s always nice if you’ve got people who you work with that are positive,” Hoke said.
Brandon, the man who fired Rodriguez and hired Hoke from San Diego State, said it wasn’t easy to watch film of the game Sunday. He watched the offensive snaps with Hoke and coordinator Al Borges and the defense plays with coordinator Greg Mattison."
October 2nd, 2014 at 7:49 PM ^
That's just bad management by Brandon. No decent manager I've ever heard of meddles with his direct reports' employees. You hire the right guy and he handles his own people. That is meddling to the nth degree
October 2nd, 2014 at 9:40 PM ^
It's weird - where he says, "you have to watch the film 5 or 6 times to figure out what went wrong" - THAT is what the coaching staff is paid to do! Not the AD!
In most organizations that ends up hurting the very leaders who are responsible for the results they were hired to go after. Because the message is that the leaders are disrespected and undermined.
October 2nd, 2014 at 8:12 PM ^
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:21 PM ^
John Beilein is the best.
Beilein says he texts Hoke at least two times a week. He says he is very supportive.
— Josh Newkirk (@JoshNewkirk7) October 2, 2014
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:31 PM ^
He also endorsed Dave Brandon FWIW
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:32 PM ^
What else is he supposed to do?
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:48 PM ^
Just pointing it out man.
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:23 PM ^
Guys, please stop with this, you're hurting Dave's feelings.
October 2nd, 2014 at 5:06 PM ^
You're hurting his family's feelings.
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:28 PM ^
Why this matters is beyond me, but even if it is true who really cares? Of all the stupid stuff these guys have done, watching game film at different times is WAY down the list of issues.
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:44 PM ^
You're kidding right? If this is true it may be at the very TOP of the issues and would explain volumes on why the team seems so damn disorganized & listless on Saturday. It would also explain this ridiculous infatuation with "manball" and even the starting of Morris last Saturday.
THE FUCKING HEAD COACH IS BEING USURPTED BY HIS BOSS.
I honestly dont know what you would consider a bigger deal than this.
FWIW I posted on Sunday I think that I wondered if Hoke left Morris in the game to stick it to somebody who "ordered" him to start. Not after the head shot but for the second half when it was clear the game was moving WAY too fast for him. Sort of a "you wanted this - you got this" type of reaction.
Again, if true, I think I might have been right.
October 2nd, 2014 at 7:51 PM ^
but in the deepest portions of our maize and blue hearts, we all know how sadly plausible it is that we are
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:34 PM ^
If this holds up and the source is reliable then I'm firmly in the camp of firing David Brandon. SAAC swayed me a bit but this is too much.
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:36 PM ^
Let's see if we can find any other AD's in the country that watch game film with the assistants, but not the HC. It's like he's going to fire Hoke and install himself as the head coach.
Oh God. I think I just made myself sick.
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:40 PM ^
Why would any self-respecting (new) coach want to come to UM for this? Assuming Hoke may not make it to next year we will be hamstrung by observations like this in recuiting a new HC.
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:46 PM ^
It was a while back but RR comfirmed this publically after Brandon almost two years after hiring Hoke was still jabbing at him. When asked what Brandon knows about the game Rodriguez responed with something along the lines of "less than the average fan."
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:47 PM ^
I don't have a problem with Dave Brandon sitting in on film sessions.
If he starts imposing his authority during that time, that's when it crosses the line. But we don't know about that either way.
October 2nd, 2014 at 8:04 PM ^
Somehow you get negged for this extremely rational thought. But everyone around here is so bloodthirsty that DB just sitting in the room 100% GUARANTEES that he is behind the whole sinking ship, calling the shots.
October 2nd, 2014 at 8:07 PM ^
...that he imposes authority through his mere presence. Being in the room changes the dynamics. There's no airing of the grievances when the big boss is in the room and it doesn't matter whether he's overtly authoritative or not.
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:49 PM ^
He just brought pizzas for them?
Watched film "Frozen"?
DB really needs to go because it's unacceptable to release the statement at 1AM which totatlly stabbed Hoke in the back. On top of that, he watched films with coordinators but not with Hoke? This is outrageously unacceptable for a leader to do that. This is not the Michigan way.
October 2nd, 2014 at 4:50 PM ^
October 2nd, 2014 at 5:15 PM ^
DB = Matt Millen
October 2nd, 2014 at 5:32 PM ^
October 2nd, 2014 at 6:45 PM ^
Nick Saban, of whom I am no fan, would eat Bill Battle's guts and spit them in his face if Battle pulled this shit.
October 2nd, 2014 at 7:41 PM ^
October 2nd, 2014 at 9:59 PM ^
there is chatter about the connection between Brandon and the $200Million donation from Stephen Ross to the University. If it is true, something tells me he will be able to weather the (well earned) vitriol from this blog and the local demonstrations. Its a shame... Now our only hope is if Ross gets pissed.