Gucci Mane

January 14th, 2020 at 12:41 AM ^

I forgot it was tonight until the middle of the game. But wow, just like the OP said. Venebles absolutely shut down LSU. Clearly the best DC. I especially liked when he rushed 3 and allowed burrow to pick them apart. It may have looked bad, but it was a great mind trick. 

tspoon

January 13th, 2020 at 12:48 PM ^

Because God loves Clemson more, obviously.

 

Just not tonight ... this will be more like the Lord allowing the pagan Babylonians to put His people back in a posture of submission.  It's going to be ugly.  (I have friends with pretty deep connections into the Clemson athletic department -- last year within the four walls of the program they felt pretty good about their "no chance against the greatest Alabama team ever," but that same confidence is not nearly so present this time around.)

 

UMichGA

January 13th, 2020 at 1:41 PM ^

These are all the defensive rankings I could get from football outsiders.

Brent Venables (Clemson, OU until 2011):

Don Brown (Michigan, BC):

Obviously, it isn't apples to apples, but I think people can see that Venables is an elite defensive coordinator. I would say 8 top 10 defenses in 13 years is impressive. He basically did nearly the same at OU, but the offenses are generally accepted to be better in the Big 12 than the ACC.

KBLOW

January 13th, 2020 at 12:44 PM ^

LMAO!

Even Don Brown at BC, with far inferior talent, had higher ranked defenses in the ACC and nationally. Venables is a really good DC, but to pretend that he could consistently produce defenses (and wins) in the B1G and SEC as he has in the ACC is absurd. Just look at the OSU game and imagine if Clemson had to face teams that could stress them like that 3 or 4 times before they made it to the playoffs. 

scfanblue

January 13th, 2020 at 1:00 PM ^

Isn't it Don Brown's job to recruit great players just like Venables does at Clemson? Brown is no where near Venables and I think the rings on Venables fingers will prove that. Instead of screaming bagmen and academics, how about respecting someone else. I guess LSU cheated this year when Joe Burrow transferred. Ridiculous and super arrogant. 

Sten Carlson

January 13th, 2020 at 3:42 PM ^

Yet OSU dropped 2 sure TD’s and had a man running free for a likely game winning TD.  

BV’s defense got lit up by OSU.  OSU beat OSU.  I’m not taking anything away from BV, he’s a great DC.  But throwing out a revisionist hot take on his defense’s performance in the semifinal game is pretty ridiculous.  

Great offenses beat great defenses almost every time, all things being equal,  because the offense is proactive while the defense must be reactive.  Individual defenders can make plays that change games and tip the balance, and that’s really the difference.  Michigan’s offense hasn’t held serve — and worse still, has given up scores — AND the defense has a near complete lack game changing plays.  INT’s have been dropped, fumble recoveries missed, flags drawn, tackles missed, etc.  It’s not X’s and O’s, it’s Jimmie’s and Joe’s!  Someone MUST make a fucking play when it counts most!

In that vein, BV’s defense got that play to end the game — albeit a very lucky miscommunication between Fields and the WR.  Otherwise, not even Jesus H. Christ (despite his affinity for Dabo) would have saved them ... they lose!

 

canzior

January 13th, 2020 at 4:29 PM ^

Clemson has played 5 regular season games in the last 3 years against teams that ended the season ranked. Of course he's beating up on bad teams.

But can't they both be good?  Doesn't fucking matter who is "better" does it?  You can find something to back up either point, when the truth is, the offense is the problem, not the defense that has been good or great every year he's been there.   

swoosh

January 13th, 2020 at 2:40 PM ^

Venables defenses is not really worried about stats IMO.  We get too hung up on ranking on how good someone is as a coach.  DB defenses beat up on lesser teams and rack up the stats and looks good on paper.  The issue is when Venables plays a team with a pulse his defenses seem to make the plays and DB does not.  I think the difference is big plays, DB defenses gives up too many big plays against the better teams.  That's what I would like to see DB improve next year.  Giving an offenses 5-10 yds on 3rd and 20 is fine, we don't need a sack every 3rd and long, we need the ball back.  This is just my opinion.

LDNfan

January 13th, 2020 at 3:11 PM ^

Give me the best Dline of 5 Star recruits money can buy, pump them up with PEDs and roll them out against an ACC schedule and I'd look like a great DC too.

Dorothy_ Mantooth

January 13th, 2020 at 4:05 PM ^

"Best DC in CFB ha?" ...perhaps, but it also helps to recruit the talent and depth that Clemson (and AL) does annually 

I suspect LSU will put up at least 4 TDs on Clemson's 'best DC in CFB'

Burrow has been better than stellar ALL YEAR, but I would add that 'the ball skills of LSU's receivers' this year has been magnificent, and UM receivers this offseason should watch a lot of tape on LSU receivers and how they attack the ball - and how Burrow's balls are thrown to his receivers strengths/skills

Goggles Paisano

January 13th, 2020 at 4:11 PM ^

It's the jimmies and joes, not the x's and o's.  They are a great team with a great defense because they have the best players, especially the DL.  GERG would be an outstanding DC at Clemson with that talent.  

Venables is a really good coach I'm sure, but how would he do at BC with the worst offense in the country?  

tspoon

January 13th, 2020 at 9:15 PM ^

He’s making $2MM+ a year in Clemson-freaking-SouthCarolina

One son is on the team

Another son is graduating high school this year and will be on the team the next 4-5 years

He gets along great with Dabo and enjoys his role

 

Venables is not going anywhere anytime soon

 

 

BlueRude

January 13th, 2020 at 7:17 PM ^

had a brief conversation today w a titans scout for our shrine game next week, was said ya aint gonna get anything better than brown. you guys need a qb to go deep. fwiw,