Ali G Bomaye

August 23rd, 2019 at 9:17 AM ^

I don't. If a game goes into 4OT, teams have already played almost an extra quarter (six shortened drives). It's not like OT results aren't arbitrary anyway - may as well shorten the game further, like a shootout at the end of OT in playoff soccer or hockey.

Then again, I'm the guy who thinks OT should be eliminated, since a tie is the result that most accurately reflects two teams scoring the same number of points in 60 minutes.

GoWings2008

August 22nd, 2019 at 10:20 PM ^

Generally speaking, I'm not in favor of more rules. At initial look, the OT rule seems to be the only unnecessary one. How often does a game go beyond four OTs though...

salami

August 22nd, 2019 at 10:30 PM ^

I don’t get the issue with wedge blocking.  For years the discussion has centered on possibly eliminating the kickoff due to player safety, presumably to the vulnerability of the ball carrier.  Wedge blocking at least gives the ball-carrier a bubble behind his lead blocks.

If even 2-man wedges are now verboten, you could interpret that to mean all blockers must maintain a 2+ yard space between the next closest blocker, creating lanes for the kicking team to essentially run full steam at the ball carrier.  This change seems prohibitively restrictive, will cause numerous inadvertent wedge blocking penalties, and possibly get a few returners creamed in the process.  

May as well just fair catch and start on the 25.  Sheesh.

Harball sized HAIL

August 22nd, 2019 at 11:27 PM ^

 Far as I can see they get targeting call correct maybe 50% of the time.  With however many people deciding on it.  They've gotta do much better job on this because it's such a game changer.  Been some insane targeting calls against us in the last 5 yrs.  

Hail Harbo

August 22nd, 2019 at 11:50 PM ^

Aside from being completely arbitrary and subjective, my biggest problem with targeting is that offensive players are immune to the foul.  Example, ball carrier dives head first to gain an extra yard and a knee from a defensive player gets in the way of his head.  Not only will it be the defensive player called for targeting, his knee may never be the same.

1VaBlue1

August 23rd, 2019 at 7:00 AM ^

There are also times when a RB or OL (or TE) loses his head and rams into the defensive player with no call.  We've seen D-players go out with concussions from this, yet no call against the offense.  RB's, especially, do this almost every play.

Targeting, as much as it's a good call, is horrible.  Should've just stayed with the old spearing rule...

MidwestIsBest

August 22nd, 2019 at 11:42 PM ^

The future of football — the game we all love — has a huge problem on its hands with TBI and CTE. They need to do more than eject three-time targeting offenders for just one game. 

1VaBlue1

August 23rd, 2019 at 7:05 AM ^

Only the NFL has the cache' and money to effect real change.  They won't do it, because doing so would force them to admit it is a problem, and that's bad for PR.  It would also cost a lot of money, which is something the owners have in spades.  Yet they prefer to hold onto it at all costs.  Greedy bastards.

A good start would be to provide modern safety equipment to every youth league and high school team in the country.  Throw a couple Billion $$$ at new, safe, helmets.  That would be a great start, and a huge goodwill publicity boost to start it all off on the right foot.

Alas, billionaire owners will never be smart enough to do this.

JDeanAuthor

August 23rd, 2019 at 7:31 AM ^

No, they do not have a problem.

The only problem is that people are too impatient. People (like you) are not giving the rule changes time enough to play out. You can’t put in a rule one year and expect some miraculous change in stats for a condition that shows up YEARS after playing. It won’t be for about five more years AT LEAST that results from these rules will be seen.

This is what I as a teacher run into with policy changes at district, state, and federal levels: people expect overnight flips in stats as soon as a policy is put in place, but that’s not how education works. It can take years to see the effects of a rule change, but because we have this horrid “fast-food-I-want-it-now-and-don’t-want-to-wait” mentality we get pouty and impatient when we don’t see immediate results and so we pass MORE rules thinking that doing the same thing over and over again will produce a different result.

You have to let things play out. You have to understand that the consequences of a rule intended for player long term health safety, as well-intentioned as they are, will not show results until years later. We need to stop overreacting as a society and realize that patience and non-emotionalized reason need to be incorporated into our thinking, and not knee-jerk react to every possibility that might or might not happen.

droptopdoc

August 23rd, 2019 at 12:32 PM ^

or the kids know what they are signing up for when they decide to play football, and targeting is mere window dressing to somehow absolve the ncaa of later litigation. when theoretically you cant remove the elements that lead to concussions from football. Im speaking as someone that played football, it comes with the territory, I think that kids just need to be informed what the long lasting effects are and let them decide what to do, but I promise all that is secondary when this(football) is a means to an end to change you/your families financial circumstances. I will further add that half the time these penalties are so bang bang its hard for a kid mid tackle to alter their trajectory 

JDeanAuthor

August 23rd, 2019 at 7:47 PM ^

I DO believe that rugby tackling will help in some ways.  Coaches who have used it say that, when it's executed right, it is far more instrumental in taking the head out of the play for both players.

 

Of course, if you REALLY want to eliminate helmet-led targeting, get rid of helmets. You'd see it drop fast...

Duq

August 23rd, 2019 at 10:34 AM ^

OT is field goals only, like a shoot out.

25 yd

30yd

35yd

40yd

etc, etc until someone misses. 

 

that would suck actually but I tried.

lostwages

August 23rd, 2019 at 11:02 AM ^

Targeting...

Just like everything else in life, it's going to be a situation where offensive players try to exploit it; drawing fouls etc. I think there has to be language written about accidental contact, and the rule needs to be relaxed. All too often we see an aggressive defensive player making a play for the ball, or trying to get low, when the O player decides to lower his head etc... 

Bosa used to spear players and go for the head, back etc. the guy was an absolute dick; and an idiot for putting himself in harms way by spear-heading opponents. That's different than Hudsen, who got raked over the coals by a craptastic rule.

Tired of seeing BS targeting calls, I understand it's designed to make the sport safer...but the game soft. Accidents happen, most players (and I know Harbs teaches this properly) don't try to target opponents.

Picktown GoBlue

August 23rd, 2019 at 10:44 PM ^

Grew up in small-town rural area.  Our football team never kicked extra points, so I thought that 2 point conversions were the norm.

But this 5th OT rule to only do 2 point attempts is crazy.  Why not just do a punt, pass, and kick competition between the two teams?