The Brandon Peters Decision

Lets be real, if Speight doesn't get hurt he's still starting. What makes you guys think JOK will get benched? Wilton got benched for 2 picks in the florida game, JOK threw 3 consecutive ints last night and was still in the game. Harbaugh is too loyal to shit performers. Dervino, Speight, O'Korn.

When are we going to stop chasing the QB bench?

There is a reason that O'Korn was behind Speight.  We saw it last night.

Why do we not believe that there is a reason that Peters is behind both of them?

Chasing after yet another bench QB is not the answer.

The issue is our OL.  None of these QBs is going to thrive behind an OL that can't run block or pass protect.

Unfortunately, that's not as easy to fix as just swapping in another QB off the bench.

This season is going to be an uphill slog even with our historically good defense.  We shouldn't be surprised by this any more.  There is no quick fix coming.

 

 

Theres obviously no magic fix to our offense. Peters isn't playing for a reason. Watching O'Korn vs Purdue it was tempting to think the coaches had chosen the wrong guy. Obviously they aren't complete idiots.

Young WR, mediocre RB, bad offensive line. I'd like to throw Peters out there too but its probably not going to make the team any better.

Going to have to face that this is a rebuilding year and 8-4 seems pretty likely. Ughh.

It's not O'Korn's fault that the coaches didn't feel any urgency to throw and try to close the lead until AFTER the storm started. I'm not convinced Tom Brady could've mounted a comeback under those circumstances.

I think playing Peters now could really hurt things moving forward.  

Let's say he plays decent to well.  Then great, you have your QB for the next few years...but then it might be reasonable to assume Speight transfers so he can play his final year, and maybe McCaffrey transfers seeing that he will be behind Peters for all but one year.  So then who is the backup is Peters gets dinged or worse?  

On the flip side, say Peters comes in a is bad, like worse than O'Korn.  Then, other positions have no chance to progress either.  Teams stack the box and the RBs have no where to go.  And as other teams keep loading up and blitzing, the line continues to struggle and loses more and more confidence.  Receivers do not even get to run some of the most basic of routes as there is no time.  

With O'Korn in there, at least you have a senior who has played.  He was bad, bad, bad last night, especially the decision-making at times.  But, you would have to think there is still more playbook to run with him than with a younger guy.

Their narrative is predetermined and they just fit outcomes of games into that narrative.

Harbaugh wins in 2016 and MSU loses with dignity / Michigan didn't dominate like it should.

Dantonio wins on a "Hail Mary" in 2015 and in a slop fest in 2017 and it's a reminder that he "owns" Harbaugh.

It's not going to happen. Nothing in Harbaugh's tenure thus far leads me to believe he would make a change like this. O'Korn is the guy barring an injury. One thing we do know is JOK is not great in bad weather. I'd like to see one more game at least in normal weather.

Hamilton was a horrible hire. This offense has regressed 5 years overnight.  Having said that, I would put in Peters at QB for the rest of the season and see what he has.  He should have been the starter all along because Speight and O'Korn have no future here.

While I agree with the hot takes all over this board that neither Speight nor O'Korn are QBs that will make anyone reading this post happy, the biggest issue is the inability of the OL to provide any semblance of pass protection. Stick anyone behind that line and the result will likely be the same -- Devin Gardner-level PTSD is practically inevitable. Until that's fixed -- and it's hopefully just a year away -- this is what we can expect from the offense.

According to the people that call us armchair quarterbacks / coaches, instead of expecting our millionaire coaches to strategically game plan around our weaknesses and actually do the job they are paid handsomely to do, we should just forfeit. The OL is too dangerous for anyone to be behind, maybe next year, with a new LT and C, it’ll be better. Seriously? We are all frustrated, but that’s a hot take if I’ve ever seen one.

While were at, maybe give Kareem Walker a look at rb? Why not at this point?

Sorry, but you say that your "calm, rational perspecitve" is for the "Peters era" to begin? The ERA? How is that rational? What then was your irrational response? Wait, better not type it on the interwebs, you might find yourself with agents knocking at your door. 

(Un)believably irrataional. 

Take away the two fumbles, McDoom’s drop and holding on a TD and Michigan likely wins that game

The offense line can't block. The running backs can't pick up a blitz, or even a damn chip. The only way to salvage an offense behind this particular offensive line would be to have a mobile quarterback. Unfortunately, we don't have one of those. It can't just be a non-statue QB like O'Korn. You need something in the range of Lewerke to Lamar Jackson. I don't see the line getting better next year either. If you want to throw up, watch Notre Dame's offensive line. Every time I flip the TV to their game some running back is running for 70 yards untouched right up the middle. They make our offensive line look like an FCS squad playing against NFL Dlines, as opposed to the big time Power 5 powerhouse bulldozer we yearn to be (and call plays pretending that we are).

Sure,let's put Peters in so he can break his neck and have his confidence shattered by the piss poor protection of the oline.

I said O'Korn was a head case. It still holds true. Honestly though if Speight was healthy I'd still still take okorn over him and I don't understand the love for Speight on this board last night. The kid would've had multiple turnovers himself and probably a half dozen more sacks. That being said considering you know what you get with jok, ya screw it, let Peters play. I mean wasn't that the expectation amongst the fan base after Speight's clear limitations throughout last season and into the spring game? Jesus, so frustrating. The kid looked to have the most goods in April. Look at Peters's spring game this year compared to Speight's in 2016. Peters looked better than Speight did in that spring game too. Then we saw the jump Speight made into that regular season and I expected the same thing with Brandon this year. Wtf is going on? First legit qb recruit and he can't beat out the 2 dimwits ahead of him and possibly not the 195 lb freshman behind him? Blughhh. I don't care if you have Aaron Rodgers at quarterback though. Whoever is back there has less than 2 seconds to throw and often has to escape the pocket to find a receiver anyways. The passing concepts are fucked! Constant fades? Where are the slants? The rollouts hitting tight ends? All stuff we used to butcher teams with that would help with a bad o line. That's on Drevno big time. This line just doesn't understand blitz pickup . Pep needs to go to. I've seen his offenses at previous stops and I remember questioning the guy in Indianapolis and I'm not even a colts fan. Hate to say it cuz I love the guy and think he's the best hire in cfb, but those aforementioned problems begin with him. It's a tough situation he came into and Hoke didn't leave the cupboards very full for this season, but Peters is your dude Jim. Why's he not where he needs to be yet? Why are you letting inept coaches stick around? Why didn't we land a couple more big names amongst the offensive line for the 2016 class? May be petty problems for other teams but problems Jim should've seen coming.

Why put Peters in behind our current o-line? If he isn't ready to play then I suspect the results will be the same or worse as JOK, and you chance shaking any confidence he has built up thus far. let him get another year backing someone up and then put him in ready to play.