December 14th, 2019 at 3:08 PM ^
Great stuff!
December 14th, 2019 at 3:16 PM ^
Slippery Rock is undefeated and playing for a spot in the final four
It's.... Not going well
Down 36 points, still in the third quarter
December 14th, 2019 at 4:12 PM ^
Unfortunately, it got even uglier. The Rock did not play well at all.
December 14th, 2019 at 3:42 PM ^
watching it with the sons. love the tradition of the game.
wish i could find ferris state's game on TV, too. they are in the national semi-final for the second year in a row.
December 14th, 2019 at 3:56 PM ^
It's on strikeout.nu if you want to deal with pop-up ads and possible viruses.
December 14th, 2019 at 4:33 PM ^
thanks for the suggestion EC. i'll pass on the viruses though, and just check the on-line score. tied 7-7 in the second.
and a heck of a trick play by navy to end the half. sweet.
December 14th, 2019 at 3:43 PM ^
Looks like real football.
December 14th, 2019 at 3:48 PM ^
And they're not even being paid to play. But keep that to yourself - some people around here get upset when hearing that football-playing students don't necessarily need to paid.
December 14th, 2019 at 4:14 PM ^
All Service academy cadets receive a monthly stipend, so at least some NCAA athletes are being paid!
December 14th, 2019 at 4:28 PM ^
But not for playing sports.
December 14th, 2019 at 4:20 PM ^
I must have missed the part where they are being able to go to school for free with assured employment at the end. I have no problem with people enlisting in the armed services and for the best and brightest to attend one of the academies, but drop the sanctimonious bullshit about this not being just as financially-driven as anyone else. CBS pays millions for the rights to show the game, plus all of the specially-branded uniforms and related hoopla.
December 14th, 2019 at 4:30 PM ^
You are stretching here. Yes, there is "assured employment" that happens to include some degree of "being killed or wounded for your country". There is a reason that this is considered national service and not a paid privilege.
Almost to a man, these kids are not playing with the intent of improving their draft stock and making that multi-million payday - and no one is going to sit out by choice. They're doing it because they love the game, want to beat their rival, and have some fun before being shipped out to God-knows-where. Respect that.
December 14th, 2019 at 5:00 PM ^
Agreed. Your average marketing or sociology major from directional university isn't worried too much about someone sparking off a nuke at his place of work.
December 15th, 2019 at 1:34 PM ^
I'm not disrespecting their decision, I'm taking issue with the claims that the machine that exists around them isn't profiting off of their participation and that they are somehow apart from other college athletes when it comes to that. The insinuation made by you is that athletes in non Service Academy sports don't care as much about camaraderie, "love of the game", and all the other ideals professed by these players just because they want a piece of the action it generates. It's insulting and reductive and feeds into the same misguided application of patriotism that has become a cudgel in this country. You don't have to agree with that and that's fine, but demanding people not find flaw in the system because of some ill-defined image of "correct" patriotism isn't a compelling argument.
December 17th, 2019 at 11:14 AM ^
It is unfortunate that you are equating service for one's country into some kind of destructive nationalism - especially considering that, unlike many (possibly most, though I do not have the numbers on hand) other nations in the world, this country does not require compulsory service. All of it (whether in armed forces, peace corps, or other form) is completely volunteer and knowing the risks/obligations in advance. The motivations are myriad and complex as well, with very few (if any) doing it out of blind national chauvinism. Of course, the motivations are not purely selfless and altruistic - national service provides outstanding personal development and career opportunities, yet the adage still rings true today: ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.
There is also a parallel to your argument about non-service academy sports. The conduct of varsity sports in the service academics is the ideal - how all universities should (and did) operate. The error in your rationale is that the student athletes are not benefiting from their participation. On the contrary, their participation is what enables them to be competitive at the next levels. The training, preparation and exposure they receive during their college experience gives them the skills and platform necessary to attract the attention of pro employers. If this was unnecessary, the NFL would have already found a way to draft players direct from high school (as the NHL and NBA effectively do already). Getting this level of professional development (without needing to pay for, such as people do for IMG academy) in addition to getting a potential world class education for free (their choice if they wish to take advantage of it) is incredible compensation as it is. Is employment guaranteed afterwards? No - but nothing in life is guaranteed for anyone, regardless of if and why they went to college. Simply because there may be some peripheral organization that also benefits from holding/arranging/marketing/broadcasting the sporting events, it does not effect the fundamental transaction between the students and the school. Also, look to the driving force for most of that revenue - is it really people wanting to pay "top dollar" to see "elite" athletes? No - this is not the NFL. Most of the college sports audience are people with some form of affinity to a particular school (alums, family, friends, employees, etc.) who want to see *their* school win, regardless of how attractive the performance is.
December 14th, 2019 at 5:00 PM ^
You miss a lot of parts.
December 14th, 2019 at 10:04 PM ^
You are so far off base it's hard to know where to start in response. Let's start here:
You "have no problem with people enlisting in the armed services" ?!?!?!?!?
How wonderfully tolerant and magnanimous of you!!!! They are so lucky that you aren't going to hold that against them!!!
And you seem to be saying that the players are financially motivated. Or maybe motivated by the "specially-branded uniforms and related hoopla".
Yours is really a disgusting take on the Army/Navy game. (And probably indicative of your general view of life.)
December 15th, 2019 at 1:40 PM ^
It's okay, I feel like my view on life is pretty open-minded and accepting. I happen to disagree with the constant flag-humping that goes on within a certain subset of the population and the idea that if you don't ascribe to it, or take issue with the very complicated country we live in, you aren't sufficiently patriotic. You clearly don't agree with me, and that's fine. But if you can't handle someone disagreeing with your worldview without questioning their general outlook on life, that's a you problem.
And that's not even taking into account the whole "maybe a couple of cadets threw up a white power sign during the game" whole thing during the game, but I guess that's just another disgusting take by people like me. I'm sure it was just an isolated issue.
Edit:. I will concede that my wording about people deciding to go into the military wasn't the best framing. Credit to anyone who decides to join a branch of service, and I thank them for their dedication to serve. I'll say no more credit than people who join peace corps, public defenders, police/fire, teaching, etc. But I did not mean to disparage the vast majority of people who dedicate themselves to their ideals.
December 14th, 2019 at 3:48 PM ^
And they're not even being paid to play. But keep that to yourself - some people around here get upset when hearing that football-playing students don't necessarily need to paid.
December 14th, 2019 at 5:06 PM ^
And no Lebron dick riding!
December 14th, 2019 at 5:14 PM ^
That probably requires a 2 day pass (and a shot of penicillin after).
December 14th, 2019 at 3:46 PM ^
Ridiculous that Army could get to 6 wins this season and left out of the bowls. Service academies deserve it more than any other schools.
December 14th, 2019 at 8:24 PM ^
They lost anyway - but even if they won? A 6-7 team (they played 13 games, they were allowed that many given they went to Hawaii) with 2 of their wins over FCS opponents?
That should not be bowl-eligible, regardless of who they are.
December 14th, 2019 at 4:10 PM ^
I really want to go to this game someday. It's one of the best games all season.
December 14th, 2019 at 4:20 PM ^
That Navy QB better run out of bounds without getting hit if he's going hold the ball like that.
December 14th, 2019 at 4:32 PM ^
I still can't believe the CBS pays Gary Danielson (and handsomely) to just babble for a few hours. So irritating.
December 14th, 2019 at 4:35 PM ^
i can think of a herd of others that are worse. danielson is okay. he did have to play for the lions, so there should be some sympathy for that.
December 14th, 2019 at 5:10 PM ^
I don’t have a dog in the fight but my Dad and I got to see the Army Navy game back in 2016 when Army won for the first time in ~15 tries. Was an awesome atmosphere and a truly memorable game.
December 14th, 2019 at 5:32 PM ^
Navy player quickly heading to 300 on the ground.
December 14th, 2019 at 5:51 PM ^
I thought Army was supposed to run the table after an early season OT loss to the only P5 team on their schedule. Wonder what happened.
December 14th, 2019 at 6:29 PM ^
Part of it was being overrated early in the season, but they also had some bad injury luck.
December 14th, 2019 at 6:30 PM ^
Part of it was being overrated early in the season, but they also had some bad injury luck.
December 14th, 2019 at 6:09 PM ^
Well it's a good thing Michigan didn't play Navy early in the season.
December 14th, 2019 at 6:16 PM ^
Two thoughts
1.Perry is good
2.Why can’t Michigan have a nose tackle like 99 on Navy.
December 14th, 2019 at 9:48 PM ^
99 was heavily recruited by top programs, wasn’t a sleeper. He chose to go to Navy/ join the military. He definitely has NFL measurements and talent.
December 14th, 2019 at 8:47 PM ^
Navy! And we pay millions to coaches and barely survive. Hey. Who's got it better?
December 15th, 2019 at 2:14 AM ^
Notre Dame put it on Navy 52-30
Michigan put it on Notre Dame after Michigan humiliated them (and, bluntly, let up in the 4th).
But yeah...