Arguably now OT: Lorenz predicts Swenson to Wiscy

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Lorenz has put in his crystal ball for Swenson to Wisconsin. Looks like Swenson will land quite well.

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LloydCarnac

January 22nd, 2016 at 4:22 PM ^

Cooperative Effort, unlike that with UM: Post a highlight reel of senior year abilities. Improve strength and technique. Attend camps to interact with coaches and players. Forge a realtionship with head coach and staff. Abandon the idea that tenure trumps effort.

Absent this? Take remainder of official visits to other schools.

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Lakeyale13

January 22nd, 2016 at 3:12 PM ^

Also, yahoo sports has an article up essentially defending Harbaugh in the Swenson aftermath. Swenson's Coach actually is quoted saying that 3 weeks ago they were told to take all 5 visits. Coach claims that he knew what that was communicating. Trying to paste the article but iPad isn't cooperating. Here it is. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/report--ex-michigan-rec…

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True Blue Grit

January 22nd, 2016 at 4:29 PM ^

would have to be pretty dense to not realize what they were being told.  Coaching staffs are never going to tell a recruit they want on their team to take other visits unless they actually don't want them.  That being said, Michigan should have been more explicit about it somewhat earlier when it was apparent Swenson was being an ostritch. 

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Reader71

January 22nd, 2016 at 8:34 PM ^

Seems like a decent assumption since none of the insiders, not Webb on the radio nor Spath at Rivals has said that Harbaugh was explicit until this week. I'm kind of over this story, but your posts are very bad and I can't stop responding.

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M go Bru

January 23rd, 2016 at 5:32 AM ^

It's a free article.

Did not attend the UM summer camp as requested.

Opponents noticed he played with less intensity so as not to get injured. They no longer feared to play against him. His senior highlight film is half as long as his junior one.

Told in nov to take all 5 visits.

BO pulled a scholly on a player that coasted his senior year also. 

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ijohnb

January 22nd, 2016 at 3:18 PM ^

that we just filled a spot with another offensive lineman, but with a potential 28-30 spots open on the roster, we had no room for a 4 star offensive lineman who was strongly committed and is now being taken by Wisconsin?  Really?  Seems like super huge offensive lineman that are good enough for Wisconsin are not all that bad to have around. Still can't quite figure this one out.

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UMChick77

January 22nd, 2016 at 3:21 PM ^

Have you read anything beyond that bullshit story from his HS coach? The kid refused....REFUSED all offers if camps and work outs when asked. All Harbaugh had was was senior film which was unimpressive. Add those two things together and what would you conclude?

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DetroitBlue

January 22nd, 2016 at 3:24 PM ^

I see your point, but if it's true that he refused to camp here and that his high school coaches seemed to think he was coasting, I can see that being an absolute deal breaker for Harbaugh.



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ijohnb

January 22nd, 2016 at 3:32 PM ^

I have read everything on it.  I am not being all critical of the staff.  It is just odd to me.  If the guy completely sucked he never would have been offered in the first place.  He is not the best thing ever in his senior film, but he dominates in the way you would expect a BIG lineman to dominate pretty consistently.  It is just a bird-in-the-hand, you know.  This is going to be a massive class.  Unless the kid is completely trolling and wanted to go elsewhere(which seems far fetched) it just suprises me that with this particular recruit they would not just get him to campus and see if they could light a fire then.

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DetroitBlue

January 22nd, 2016 at 3:43 PM ^

I didn't accuse you of not reading anything. My only point is that, regardless of how good he is or could be, if Harbaugh doesn't think he has the fire to push himself day in and day out, I just can't imagine Harbaugh being interested.
To be clear, I don't know any of this for a fact and it's just a guess on my part, but I don't see Harbaugh spending a scholarship on a kid who he doesn't believe is willing to do whatever it takes to succeed



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East German Judge

January 22nd, 2016 at 4:00 PM ^

No one said he completely sucked, but it is possible that he peaked early and never kept progressing as a junior and senior, and/or while he may be physically talented, he may lack the attitude for a Harbaugh type team.  Good question why he turned down the requests to come to campus, only he can answer that.

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trueblueintexas

January 22nd, 2016 at 4:13 PM ^

I don't think it is odd. It appears there was a difference in expectations between the Michigan staff and Swenson. Maybe the Wisconsin staff sees something different and/or is more willing to take a chance that he doesn't pan out. 

Harbaugh is uber competitive. I can't imagine Harbaugh being interested in the type of player you have to light a fire under to get results. That will mean there are times we walk away from a recruit who seems to have all of the phsycal capabilities and could turn out to be great if that fire gets lit. So be it. I'd rather have the recruit who will fight and claw to the finish without always having to be pushed to do so.

EDIT: that will teach me to answer a phone call and then come back to finish a post. Two other responses the same as mine. Stupid Friday afternoon phone calls.

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LB

January 22nd, 2016 at 3:29 PM ^

I had a really difficult time reading 'strongly committed' into those articles. I'ma go out on a limb and say the staff had a tough time too.

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Blau

January 22nd, 2016 at 4:21 PM ^

Clearly Drevno and Harbaugh see something in Swenson they don't like and are moving on from the situation as I think everyone else should too. Between both Swenson's and Spanellis's films, my untrained eye for HS O lineman actually sees more potential in the later. We're going to be fine. Also Wisconsin is a great program for developing OL and I wish him well. End of story. Let's talk about something else now.

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True Blue Grit

January 22nd, 2016 at 4:33 PM ^

many of their other OL recruits and has an extra scholarship to risk on someone like Swenson:  a 4 star rated lineman with a 2 star highlight tape.  Whatever the reason, I'm not going to lose a second of sleep over it.

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Alumnus93

January 22nd, 2016 at 3:20 PM ^

Am surprised about the outcry with this kid...

He was offered as a sophomore by Hoke.  New staff, asked him to camp IN THE SUMMER, and that would have been the right thing to do, as to respect that the new staff did NOT offer him, and that when someone commits so early in high school and yet never go to the campus, it is totally reasonable... He refuses, several times, then dogs his senior year. Still won't visit, despite numerous reasons to, such as seeing his future teammates, etc.  Good riddance. Next time the people here should give our coaches the benefit of the doubt. 

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HermosaBlue

January 22nd, 2016 at 4:29 PM ^

My admission letter to UM stated clearly that the continued validity of my acceptance was conditioned upon continued academic performance and progress. I find it hard to believe Swenson didn't understand that the continued validity of his scholarship offer had the athletic equivalent of the same conditions.



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True Blue Grit

January 22nd, 2016 at 4:39 PM ^

letter posted by Swenson that was given to him by Harbaugh's staff, I didn't see much about conditions of the offer.  Maybe he conveniently didn't post page 2 with all the conditions.  But, one change I would make based on that would be to put a number of conditions in the letter that need to be met for it to turn into an actual scholarship:  meeting academic admission standards, staying out of trouble, having a satisfactory senior year athletically, yada, yada, yada.  

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leftrare

January 22nd, 2016 at 3:20 PM ^

I get that at a minimum, the Michigan staff is guilty of creating some pretty bad optics for themselves and us, the fan base to apologize for.  And, yeah, if you take Swenson's word on it, the staff handled it genuinely badly. But, what keeps sticking in my mind is, how much harm has this done to Swenson?  If he wanted to play football in the big house on Saturdays, the staff was basically telling him that would never happen and he should go elsewhere.  If playing was what he really wanted he should go find it.  Telling him the truth was doing him a favor.

If getting a scholarship to a premiere Big Ten institution is his goal, well that's going to be satisfied by either Wisconsin or Northwestern.  So, really, how sad is Swenson's story in the end?

 

 

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gord

January 22nd, 2016 at 3:22 PM ^

Swenson is a 2nd team USA Today All-American.  How are we not interested at all while other people are pretty high on him?  Does he suck or not?  If other major programs are interested he can't be that bad.

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