MGoPodcast 9.27: Stop Bringing Up 2010 Comment Count

Seth April 23rd, 2018 at 7:20 AM

1 hour and 47 minutes


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1. The Offense wsg Seth Fisher (that’s me!)

starts at 1:00

Peters is running with the ones, Shea is probably the guy, Milton in the future. Black and DPJ, Crawford moving to 41 is probably not a Lytle reference. We’re all for Gentry in the slot. Offensive line: Hudson is our rooting interest, Onwenu was fine last year, Ruiz is probably real, Runyan at RT isn’t ideal. Super max protect Gentry 500 FTW! I like the way Lewerke.

2. The Defense wsg Seth again (yes THAT me!)

starts at 29:53

The happy section, where we bring up the 2014 Rutgers game, the Cleveland Browns,  Brady Hoke Punt Fest 2013, and several times the 2010 defense. Hype for Dwumfour started last year; we disagree somewhat on how ready the redshirt freshmen are. Zordich ornery after his corners were all injured but Ambry. Brian is against safeties. Lots of linebacker weapons. We pronounce Uche correctly.

3. Recruiting Football, Basketball, Hockey

starts at 57:55

Three sports, three football commits, a bazillion hockey commits, and lots of interest in the basketball program. Newburg is a wrastler. Herron is clearly waiting for Stanford admissions to decommit. Stewart committed from Connecticut, his school’s one to watch (2020 ND quarterback commit). Iggy finally jumped to the composite top 50. DeJulius and Castleton late jumps too. Could be better than the Fresh Five class. Girard? Balas thinks so. Hockey crootin.

4. Moritz and Matthews Draft Futures

starts at 1:31:15

This section became a 2018 hoops class segment. Expected Moe to go—unless his arms grew longer he wasn’t going to be a better NBA prospect. Find usage elsewhere, more pick and roll than pop, Teske D on the floor all game. Matthews is going to find out what he needs to work on—has NBA talent but probably won’t get a draft grade.



  • “No Diggity”—Blackstreet ft. Dr. Dre, Quenn Pen
  • “While You Wait for the Others”—Grizzly Bear
  • “Goggles”—Post Animal
  • “Across 110th Street”


Let’s try to make as many of them ineligible as possible.



April 23rd, 2018 at 12:13 PM ^

I can't figure out if Brian's Shea = Tate take is:

  • Throwing shade at Patterson (Shead?)
  • Pure, unconditional love for Tate Forcier
  • Invoking the spirit of Tate as a centering strategy to get in an "I actually want to talk about Michigan football for an audience" state of mind


April 23rd, 2018 at 12:56 PM ^

Obviously don't even remotely know what Brian is thinking but Tate wasn't a bad qb, especially for a true freshman/sophmore. If we get tate forcier level play I think we have a pretty good year so I wouldn't see the comparison as throwing shade in my opinion if you are projecting what a junior Tate would look like.

I do think it goes to show that Patterson isn't going to be a guy who puts up QB stats that get him drafted in the top 10 next year but given our offensive line pass protection issues, a qb who can make something out of nothing with a lower ceiling is much preferable to a Peters/McCaffrey who might have a better ceiling as a tradsitional qb but isn't creating plays with his legs when his pocket breaks down.


April 23rd, 2018 at 1:37 PM ^

Heard him say it on this here podcast and WTKA without anything else so was filling in the rest on my own.

I think he's more NFL Prospect Tate Forcier with the arm. I doubt the #1 QB off the board in 2019 stuff out there given his height but there's a sizable gap in accuracy between the two (no offense to Tate who will always have 2009 Notre Dame).


April 23rd, 2018 at 2:28 PM ^

Is there though? That is what I'm saying about Tate, guy had some off field issues that impacted him and Rich Rod could turn to Denard but he was a good qb and there is a reason he started as true freshman over Denard. In his true freshamn season he completed almost 59% of his passes at 7.3 y/a. When he played as a sophmore he completed 64% at 7.1 y/a. His bigget problem was too many turnovers in terms of int's and fumbles.

Shea as a freshman completed 54.5% of his passes at 6.7 y/a and as a sophmore completed 64% at 8.7 y/a. Shea also had better wide receivers to throw to. 

My point isn't to knock Shea, a junior version of Tate that had his head on straight can lead a prolific offense and that is hopefully what we are getting with Patterson. But you aren't getting Baker Mayfield or Manziel either.


April 23rd, 2018 at 1:16 PM ^

Interesting to stack up U-M's most recent QB efficieny ratings:

  • Peters - 114
  • JOK - 100
  • Speight'17 - 122
  • Speight'16 - 140
  • Rudock - 142
  • Gardner - 138
  • Robinson - 139
  • Forcier - 128

If we get a 152 QBR season from Shea (his 2017 result in 7 games for Ole Miss), that will be a significant upgrade to our most recent signal callers. 

BTW ... Henne's career QBR was 134 (best year 143).  Griese's NC 1997 QBR was 138.  Brady in his senior season had a 138 QBR.   

Watching From Afar

April 23rd, 2018 at 3:11 PM ^

So, obviously in a preffered world, Runyan wouldn't be playing RT. That's a given.

But... We've heard his name for 2 years now and I just want to see him go up against Gary 1 time in a live rep. He was the RT last year going into the fall and then they ran out freakin Ulizio for 3 or 4 games and that was an absolute joke.

If Runyan's name keeps popping up over and over again, regardless of his height, I want to see him before we get another attempt at running out someone who should not see the field at any point.

IIRC, Ruyan played RT a little last year when JBB got dinged up against OSU and he wasn't horrific. He didn't stand out as "what in the living hell is this guy doing on the field" against, arguably, the best DE combo in the Big Ten last year.

So if it comes down to JBB is not good (and everyone is doom and gloom about him starting anywhere) so Hudson plays LT, lets see Runyan at RT over JBB.


April 23rd, 2018 at 7:36 PM ^

Brian sounded so gloomy re the offensive line. Isn't it possible that a new O-line coach and a spring of practices will lead to some improvement? Can't we have some hope in April?