CC - Denards Comments

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Denards comments about CC

"If it was up to me, I'd tell them he has to come back," Robinson said. "We had a pretty good season, and our future's really bright. We've got a young team and we're just starting to jell now.

"I see us in the future winning a national championship or moving in the top 10."

 

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/21577/denard-robinson-rested-r…

 

Robinson's success this season appears to be the biggest reason for Michigan to retain Rodriguez, especially since the sophomore quarterback is such a perfect fit for Rodriguez's offense.

antonio_sass

December 30th, 2010 at 1:00 AM ^

I absolutely refuse to lose Denard Robinson. He is too awesome of a football player and person. Whatever happens with coaches, I hope Shoelace is the centerpiece of Michigan football for the next two years. Otherwise, I will be really. fucking. sad.

Here's to Denard dumping an  ice-cold bucket (bucket? there's a better word for this) of gatorade on Rich Rod this saturday. Twould be a sweet, sweet moment. Huzzah!

/drunk

JimBobTressel

December 29th, 2010 at 11:19 PM ^

Robinson honestly has the most to lose from RR leaving. I hope if that comes to pass, the new coach can utilize his mad skillz

SalvatoreQuattro

December 29th, 2010 at 11:41 PM ^

in the context of a change. So it was not an assumption of anything.
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<br>But since you have interpreted it as such, I will ask what in three years has indicated to you that this staff can win titles? The data says "great offense, poor defense and special teams." I do not know too many teams who won titles with that combination.
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<br>Could things change? Sure, but that is an assumption based on RR track record at WVU and not anything he has done here.
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<br>Of course, it is assumption that he will fail or that Harbaugh will lead UM back to elite status. Basically, this situation is one big pool of assumptions.

Maize and Blue…

December 30th, 2010 at 4:48 AM ^

RR's first year there was nothing on O and some returning talent on D.  From all accounts most of that talent (seniors) didn't buy into the change.  The second year featured very little back on D quite a bit back on O but starting a true freshman QB.  Throw in injuries to the senior RBs that were supposed to carry the team along with Molk going down and Tate's shoulder and you end up 5-7.  Third year the offense explodes but the D loses the one piece everyone was saying they couldn't (T-Woolf) before the season.  Throw in JT and Big Will (still has time) not living up to their high star ranking, Vlad never regaining his speed, and a lack of quality upperclassman (LC) and you end up with younsters playing against veterans.

With almost the entire team returning this year and a good portion the following year RR deserves the opportunity to coach.  He has had only two full recruiting classes plus some others from his month when he took over after the 2007 season.  Interestingly, RR has more starter from his partial class then LC does from his recruits in the class despite having a large number advantage.

jmblue

December 30th, 2010 at 1:22 AM ^

Robinson honestly has the most to lose from RR leaving.

I don't know about that.  Harbaugh's building an impressive track record developing QBs.  If he could turn a Division II guy into an NFL prospect, I think he can figure out how to coach Denard.

Maize and Blue…

December 30th, 2010 at 5:01 AM ^

Who Andrew Luck?  A top 70 player coming out of HS who is a prototypical pro style QB.  Denard isn't a pro style QB and never will be.  He is the most dynamic player in college football and I am sure after this season there are a lot of teams out there hoping Michigan goes with Harbaugh so they can poach DRob.  Since he hasn't RSed he would still have two years left of eligibility.

Throw in the lack of need for SRs and others and I would expect another rash of transfers which would kill our APR.  Harbaugh threw the team and university under the bus about academics and if DB brings  Jimmy Jacka** here I will be greatly disappointed.  Any former player/alumnus who does that doesn't belong anywhere near the program or university.

WolvinLA2

December 30th, 2010 at 11:12 AM ^

Maybe I'm the only one who thinks this, but I don't think Harbaugh coming here would be bad for Denard, all things considered.  He would almost certainly have fewer rushing yards the next two year, but maybe not by a lot.  Andrew Luck had over 500 rushing yards, and he's no DRob.  I think what would also happen is Denard would develop as a passer better under Harbaugh who emphasizes more of a complex passing attack and who has a better track record of coaching NFL calibur QB's. 

Also, I bet Denard wants to play pro football.  He will either do this as a QB, or as another position on offense.  Either way, having an understanding of a pro-style offense can only help him. 

Denard under JH would be different than Denard under RR, no doubt.  But I don't see any reason why Denard can't be an Andrew Luck type player who is slightly inferior throwing the ball and vastly superior running it.  

M-Dog

December 30th, 2010 at 11:36 AM ^

I hope he does not make the same mistake that RR did. 

JH will inherit a team designed to run the spread.  So . . . run the damn spread or some variant of it that can take advantage of the players already in place, especially with Denard at QB.

Transition to a more Pro-style offense gradually over time if that is his desire, and live to fight another day.  

We don't need another bloody noisy mass exit.     

WolvinLA2

December 30th, 2010 at 11:41 AM ^

I think that's what would happen, to an extent.  RR has been very successful running a very particular style of offense, so it behooved him to start running that full bore ASAP.  Had he gradually turned us to the spread, we may have done better in year one (but then again maybe not since he's be coaching an O he's not as familiar with) but probably not as successful by year three because they wouldn't be as fully immersed.

Harbaugh has not mastered one particular offense like RR has, but he has shown the ability to be much more diverse as well.  His offense in SD was fairly spread-ish, IIRC.  It's been said before, but Luck also ran the ball a good amount this past season.  So I think JH would use the guys the best way he could.

That said, our offense is also set up fairly well for a pro-style offense, if he decides to do that.  We have very good, big O-linemen, we have solid outside WR's, we have a 4 year starter at TE. we have a pretty good set of RBs, a couple of the bigger variety, and a QB who actually can pass the ball pretty well.  I don't think this roster is nearly as ill-fit for pro-style as our 2008 roster was for the spread.

bluenyc

December 30th, 2010 at 12:43 PM ^

I think RR stated in an interview with CBSsports that he ran the spread and didn't modify it because he didn't have many returning starters on O.  It was easier to start over with these guys because they never ran a system.  It would have been interesting to see him modify the system if Henne and Hart had eligilbity left and Manningham and Arrington had stayed.

WolvinLA2

December 30th, 2010 at 12:51 PM ^

That's a very good point.  A coach is much more likely to keep a certain system if he has a lot of returning starters and/or contributors to work with. 

RR had two QB's who hadn't seen the field in any scheme, and one WR who had.  The RBs were versatile, his TE was a freshman (plus Carson Butler) and his OL was young too. 

JH would be a very different situation. 

HAIL-YEA

December 30th, 2010 at 1:03 AM ^

He posted a line from Bo's The Team speech and a bunch of people negged  him for it?  That statement is as true today as it was when Bo 1st said it.  I love Denard, he has been everything I would want a Michigan Man to be to this point in his career.  But he is not more important then the team. I believe Denard would tell you the same.

For those of you who read the line from Bo's greatest speech and thought..i'll down vote this..because im an RR supporter.

GO FUCK YOURSELVES

 

CWoodson

December 29th, 2010 at 11:35 PM ^

Ridiculous capitalization intended to reference the strawman that pro-RR=anti-"The Team" aside, everyone agrees that the opinion of one, most, or all players should not determine the fate of the program.

But to act like the opinion of our starting QB, our best and most important player, and a guy who is so team-first doesn't matter is just another example of your typical nonsense.  I'll care more about your opinion and less about his when you do 1% of what he's done for the program in just 2 years.

lukepanici

December 29th, 2010 at 11:25 PM ^

I think Robinson's legacy will be downgraded but it doesn't mean he couldn't be one of Michigan's all time greats at the running back position. If he puts on 10 pounds with his vision, cutback ability, and his homerun burst then we are still looking at a guy that can put up 1500 yards from the running back position in more of a traditional Michigan offense.