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I think you're missing my point

The real question is, could any fan who has a 247 account predict just as well?  Especially people who follow the website all the time.  Again, I'm sure 247 knew this risk was possible when they expanded their CB.

No offense to Ace but...

I checked Crystal Ball and Ace moved his CB back to Michigan this morning after the latest 247 insider news came out.  At what point does 247 say: He is a super fan who has no information on his own, but he clearly subscribes to our website and follows our insider news.  

I have no issue with superfans, but you could argue that it dilutes the significance of CBs.  I think most people who follow 247 could do the same.  Maybe they could create a separate interactive superfan CB where subscribers could make their own predictions (it creates even more interaction like the message boards).  It would work similar to rotten tomatoes. You have an expert tracker and a "fan" tracker.  My assumption is that Ace would fall under the latter category.

Fair or not...

Fair or not, Brady Hoke has a "player safety" issue after the Shane Morris debacle. Given the allegations (and I am not equating the two), Hoke might not be the best fit from a pr perspective.

Connor Murphy

Gotta think that Kareem's Bama commitment will lead to Connor in this class

A couple other players who we assumed were commiting forever:

Jordan Diamond

Laquon Treadwell

 

Backdating Scholarships

If Pipkins isn't on athletic scholarship in 2016 (post-season), then Michigan, I believe, can use his spot for a 2016 player. 

MGFish

MGoFish is on commit watch while no other recruiting service is.  You get the feeling this kid wants to play with the big boys but is really just a super fan.

I hope he's right.  But if some recruit commits later this week or weekend and MGoFish says that was the recruit he was mentioning, then it's clear this kid wants to be legit but is not.

247 Article on Costello

Michigan didn't seem to be the frontrunner in the article to be honest. Just the vibe of the article suggests he's taking the visit but not going there to commit. Who knows...

What about Oakland?

What about Oakland?

Nuss family

It makes you appreciate the sacrifice a coach's family makes. Alabama-Michigan-Florida in 3 years.

Jeff Moss

Based on some of the horrific, anti-semetic remarks that Jeff Moss has made on twitter, I would perhaps refrain from citing him as a reputable source.

When I think of

When I think of viable options at HC.  Meaning, the home run picks (Harbaugh, Miles) fall short.  And you try to determine the most high profile guy who is most willing to accept the job, I think the name that comes up is Schiano.

As opposed to..

The in-house visits where the coaches get into fistfights with the parents.



FYI- 99.9% of in-homes go 'very well.'

Steve Hiller

Same name as Will Smith's character in Independence Day

Smash

Originally verbaled to Bama (Mack Brown guest-starred as a recruiter). He then tried to walk on at A&M but ultimately became a star at TMU.

Smash

Went to TMU

Apparently....

The #18 player (5*) according to Scout has a dream offer and it's Michigan.

Lorenz interviewed him (I think PREMIUM).  Very interesting.

http://michigan.247sports.com/Board/59424/Lucier-South-Wants-Dream-M-Offer-20546915/1

Great pitch

Since when is making money a bad thing in general?

Bama produces more first rounders than any other team.  First rounders make money.  It's OK to want to make money as a professional.

 

Playing in TX

Why would LSU agree to play in Houston?  Simple.  Recruiting.

Dear Mitch

Dear Mitch, if you're holding this letter you already know. The house has been boarded up. The doors. The windows. Everything. We're at the Comfort Inn. Room 112. I love you. Frank

Kenny Lacy

This should probably be mentioned in any recruiting update.

 

Mountain Pointe OT Kenny Lacy, a  commit, eyeing official visit to via 

Power

No power.  MIght be a few days.  FYI.

sure

mjroth1

let me know if you need one

let me know if you need one more. i'll join.

Go to the 5:30 mark

Go to the 5:30 mark.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8490526/beano-cook-espn-…

JJ Watt

I'd probably rank JJ Watt #4.

You see

I thought last week was a set up episode. And the more you have set up episodes consecutively, the more you realize neither were supposed to be set up episodes. It's like the final season of Lost when I began convincing myself that there were 6 set up episodes in a row because I didn't want to convince myself that I didn't like the episodes. I'm just saying, this one episode wasn't great. The Jesse for dinner scene was great (albeit perhaps a bit overacted). I hope we get the suspense back next week.

Last night

Did anyone else think it was the weakest episode of the season?

3 reasons

Pittman, Washington, Spence

At 1:06

Shane is doing the Bern. 

As in, the dance inspired by weekend at bernies.

youtube it.

I don't get the Beckman "sleazy" talk

What is wrong with accepting transfers from another B1G school?  Some people suggest this is somehow sketchy.

We try to pry away B1G commitments all the time.  But once they join a school, it's considered "ungentlemanly" to accept a transfer?  Are you in favor of the Gentleman's Agreement that nobody subscribes to?

I get it.  The 5 or 6 IL coaches at Penn State gave them a bad rep.  But let's just be objective for a moment and not go down the road of saying "every other coach is dirty but ours."  Beckman is starting at a new program and trying to build  up the talent.  I don't think he's done anything wrong. 

I'm not suggesting this particular thread is hitting Beckman too hard.  But just in general.

Early Enrollees

I think Ross Douglas is planning to enroll in January too.  Assuming there's room..

Not quite

Eric Crouch won a heisman.  Frazier was probably the best.  I know those Oklahoma teams of the 80s had some great running QBs.

Its possible

This is possible, but it also becomes a fine line.  So if a recruiting service says "we need to re-evaulate a player" there is already a bias towards improving his stock in my mind.  So then this becomes semantics (is re-ranking based on other site or "re-evaluation").

And again, its merely a hedge.  Rivals still has Green much higher.  But Scout is at least making Green a top player now.

I actually think that ESPN uses the most independence in its rankings.  For better or worse.

Hedge and etc.

I get the feeling that alot of the re-rankings are to hedge against other recruiting services having a guy really high or low.

For instance, from all reports, I don't think Derrick Green stood out at the Opening.  Not that he was bad, but that he wasn't creating much buzz.  But Rivals has him as the #1 RB now.  So Scout moves him up around 80 spots.   Same issue with Taco where all the other services had him as a 4* except Scout.  

On the Taco front, people have been hitting Farrell about his assessment and how Rivals had him dropping whereas Scout (and others) had him on the rise.  Well, Scout originally had him as the #29 player in Ohio and a 3* whereas Rivals had him ranked as a top 250 player.  So you have to consider where he was originally ranked before judging how to evaluate his stock rising/falling.

And of course, none of the recruiting services for a particular school want to tell their fan base that a commitment performed poorly at a camp.  You're rarely going to hear it straight up.  So it's hard to get an objective evaluation about how these kids perform.

Reading your post

It makes no sense. 

A) Pepper would have walked on

B) You care about longsnapper rankings? Do they really matter?

C) The difference between the #2 and #6 LS (different classes of course) means....better squat?

5 star

5 star prospect on that site means he is a Division 1 prospect.  So....yeah....ok.

This...

This can't be right.

Rankings

Who else is tired of debating about a 5 or 10 or 15 spot move in the rankings?  Means nothing.

Above the Law

Has been discussing the futility of law school for a while now; especially when you don't go to a top 20 school. That's the only thing they're really concerned with.  So there is a definite slant to the piece.  I wouldn't take it as a fully objective analysis.

Let's also state the obvious: Andrew Sweat was going to be cut in August at some point.  This is not like Andrew Luck choosing Law School over the NFL.

Agreed

I don't dispute what you're saying.

As we all know, recruiting is a guessing game, otherwise luke kuechly wouldn't have gone to BC most likely.

My frustertation is directed at the source of those who claim that "Michigan fans are overeacting."  The truth is, a recruitniks' job is for fans to "overreact" to recruiting.  That's their job.  So when they then tell fans to "settle down" when we miss out on a player, they are trying to appear above the very chaos that they themselves created.  And it happens all the time.

 

Isaac

The whole "unwarranted freakout" chatter amongst supposed recruiting reporters is a bit hypocritical if you ask me.

You are the ones who drive the hype for players, you chat on twitter about players, dissecting how great the rankings are or how great of a "sleeper" Michigan got.  And then, if an Isaac doesn't choose Michigan and fans show dissapointment by showing their displeasure about missing out on UM's top RB target the last two years, you guys say "fans need to relax about this..."

In my mind, you can't be the one selling candy and then preach about responsibility and health when the kid doesn't get to eat it.  Recruiting reporters like to think that they are the "rational" ones who can give some perspective.  But that's a farce if you ask me.  The recruiting business is about hype and hope about landing those players.  So if Michigan loses out on their potential #1 target (or, at the least, top 3), then you should say "Michigan fans are dissapointed and that's ok, since i've been hyping him to you for the last 12 months."

I'm not giving my hopes up at all for Isaac.  But the predictable response amongst recruiting insiders if it goes poorly is a bit hypocritical.

Cleary is rated by 247

Cleary is rated as the number 2,646th player in the nation.  So when the Scout 3,000 comes out next week, we should have some new food for thought.  I thought he should have been rated in the 2,300s to be honest.  Classic anti-Michigan bias.

 

http://247sports.com/Player/Brian-Cleary-7834

#10

Better get Levenberry in the fold before we hand out 10 to RJS.

The post

I don't see anything wrong with this post or it's content. He's not acting callous, he's simply telling us what happened to a former Michigan player who did enroll and play in fall practice. Also, am I missing sonething or is HisDudeness typically one of the more immature members of this blog who does more childish antics than most. Now he's a preacher?



OP is fine.

Great Clip To Summarize Spring Practice Overreaction

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ovl4IPhakk&feature=relmfu#t=9m18s

Chad Ford just reported

Spike Albrecht is declaring for the draft tomorrow.  His dad wants him to stay.  Rivals says he's staying.  Sam Webb has him going.  Beaver writes something vague without actually saying anything.



Stay Tuned..

I stand corrected

Early contender for the Jordan Payton "My Word is Stronger than Oak" Award

Indiana

Indiana has a commitment in Reggie Spearman.

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=6077341

In some ways I agree with you

My statement was not suggesting that Howland isn't at fault or that he should not be held responsible as a coach based on team chemistry and team success.  My claim is that the article suggest's that Howland is, in some ways, outrageous or maniacal in his coaching (room temprature? every coach has quirks!); or that his actions were reprehensible on a moral level.

For instance, the trainer being fired.  The article suggests that Howland cajoled the trainer into naming names by promising no retribution before Howland kicked him off the team.  He has the feel of a James Bond villain.  The more likely scenario is that Howland was insistent on knowing who was partying late on those nights and didn't repond to pleas from the trainer that he was worried about consequences of naming names.  A trainer who "would do anything for the players" and would "be at the gym at 3 am if they asked" was also someone who ended up partying with players on nights they were on curfew.  Doesn't seem like a team guy to me.   He may have even planned events - who knows?

So my beef is more with the insinuations of how the article characterizes Howland.  And how it is very easy to frame him as a villain here, when the facts are really not that all bad. 

From a coaching standpoint (and I said this in my original post), the UCLA collapse WAS shocking.  I think Howland has another year or two.

Also, the article omits that aside from John Wooden's pyramid of success, he had Sam Gilbert.  Maybe Howland should get his own Sam Gilbert.