Do you want T. Pryor to go pro?
While in Cleveland over Christmas, it was interesting to get the feeling of several tOSU fans on (edit) the tattoo/memorabilia fiasco. I certainly couldn't speak for all OSU fans, but there was consensus that Pryor was a bust, and that they would just assume he move on to the NFL now, rather than come back. From the perspective of these fans, the other guys could go too.
What about Michigan fans? What is best for Michigan in this whole debacle? I suppose it would help our chances at winning next year if they all left.
Also, it now is at the point where tOSU fans are ready for Michigan to become competitive again. They complained about the stands being less than packed and less than enthused for the Big Game last month. I have to say, I was offered a ticket to the game at face value, and I passed.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:41 PM ^
I think he represents well. Plus, one more year to try and beat him would be good.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:33 PM ^
I don't usually dabble in the grammar policing, but the phrase the OP was looking for is just as soon. I couldn't help myself...
December 29th, 2010 at 2:41 PM ^
Yes because his entertainment via Twitter would probably go to a whole new level.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:49 PM ^
His stupidity gives me a headache. I rather him leave for the NFL and be a 3rd string tight end, and never be heard from again.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:27 PM ^
I think he and Lane Kiffin will both perform just well enough to become permanent media fixtures, thus maximizing their annoyance values.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:56 PM ^
A third string TE that steals and kills people...cuz everyone does it.
December 30th, 2010 at 2:07 AM ^
Few things would make me happier than to see the self absorbed #2 have his name called on draft day 2011. I can almost see it now...
There sits the mighty TP on the couch in his momma's living room. It's day one and the ESPN/NFL Network cameras keep shooting back to the scene as the picks slowly go bye. We get one last glimpse as the first round ends and there's a look of dejection and maybe even a small sound bite in which we here the inevitable, 'championship teams are made on day two of the draft', or 'It doesn't matter when, just that I go to the right team'.
Fast forward to round five. The living room and the couch are the same, but the center of attention and the number of hanger-ons is significantly different. Some mid-level NFL exec is a the mike squeezing in a pick between another commercial break and some random Mel Kiper take on remaining talent left on the board when it happens. "With the 177th pick in the draft, the Tampa Buccaneers select, Terrelle Pryor, TE, Ohio Sate."
We see a relieved TP jump up and hug his mamma. We get one last quote that says something like "I'm going to go in there and work my tail off and help get TB back to the Super Bowl."
That's when I'll smile, knowing the hours I committed to watching the draft were all worth while and I can say to myself, in the words of the immortal Face Man... "Adios Mother...!"
December 29th, 2010 at 2:43 PM ^
if i were an OSU fan, i would look upon qbs like Troy Smith and Todd Boeckman with way more favor, regardless of the awards Smith received, than i would Pryor. to utilize an overused term, Pryor's tenancy behind center seems/is tarnished.
hypothetical/rhetorical small item: could Pryor have avoided the freshman maturity issues (which seem to be commonplace given Forcier's recent interview) if Tressel redshirted him and let Boeckman start all season? what's more, how much better would he be in 2011 with a RS?
December 29th, 2010 at 6:31 PM ^
Troy Smith is lightyeears ahead of Pryor in Buckeye lore, and nothing is going to change that, regardless of the Sugar Bowl and 2011. This just cements it.
Pryor had to play as a freshman because Boeckman wasn't the answer. Jim wasn't going to sacrifice a year and lose 4 games to develop one player. Plus, I doubt Pryor was going anywhere to be redshirted, PSU, UM or OSU included. Would a RS have been beneficial? No doubt, but that just wasn't an option.
It's one of those dream hypothetical scenarios that will never be answered fully.
December 29th, 2010 at 7:34 PM ^
They did lose 3 games that year, and I don't think that Boeckman would have been any worse. Pryor pretty much single-handedly lost the PSU game by fumbling away the ball while fighting for extra yards when he already had the first down that he needed. That ended their chances of playing for the NC as a one-loss team. I think they rushed Pryor onto the field, and his one big freshman mistake cost them in a big time game. They also misused his talents pretty badly in his early years, gaudy win-loss record notwithstanding. With OSU's typically stout defense and running game, it isn't hard to win as a QB.
December 30th, 2010 at 12:56 AM ^
USC loss was because of Todd/defense, Pryor actually played well.
The play against PSU would have been a TD if he didn't fumble. Should he have only went for the first down? Maybe. But I think in a low scoring game, he saw a shot at a TD and took it, if he scores he's a hero, hard to fault the effort.
December 30th, 2010 at 1:48 AM ^
He had 9 pass attempts, 11 rushes, 52 yards passing and 40 yards rushing in a 35-3 loss to USC. Hardly "playing well"
I don't mean this to be a shot at you, but I really think Tressel wasted a year of development by throwing him in his freshman year. Pryor only had greater than 10 completions in 2 games. That's horrific/a testament to how good the defense was. OSU really couldn't have done worse that year with Boeckman.
December 30th, 2010 at 8:57 PM ^
You had to watch the game to see the total difference between him and Boeckman. It was like night and day as far as offensive threat.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:43 PM ^
I would wish TP to go to hell but that would be no worse then Columbus.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:44 PM ^
If I was pryor I would Redshirt next year...He can still use his redshirt and i would assume that would count towards his 5 gm suspension. Get your degree and play as a 5th year senior. He would only get better.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:46 PM ^
seems like he's suspended for the "next 5 games of regular season play" rather than the first 5 games of 2011. that would be a hell of a skirting of the rules that i doubt the NCAA wouldn't have the gap closed for.
then again, cecil newton disagrees with me.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:22 PM ^
Not in TP's nature to delay gratification. Doubt he'll sit for five games, yet alone a year.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:49 PM ^
I don't think he would see the field as a QB if that were to happen, unless whoever starts in place of him is absolutely terrible. Whoever is the new QB will have a whole season under the belt and chemistry with the offense. You don't give that up for a rusty Terrelle Pryor.
December 29th, 2010 at 5:03 PM ^
Has anyone really looked at his Bio on the OSU website lately????? Just take a peak at his major. It could mean 1 of two things, both of which made me laugh out loud! If he gets his degree, where will he go first!?!?!?!?!
http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=17300&ATCLID=1549127
December 29th, 2010 at 6:33 PM ^
ZOMG!?!?!?!?!111/1/1/????
December 29th, 2010 at 6:56 PM ^
Well it is Columbus... *rimshot*
December 29th, 2010 at 2:44 PM ^
No I want all OSU players to stay there as long as possible.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:47 PM ^
For the benefit of UM, I think Pryor leaving is the best. He's a bust because of the high expectations (and the word vomit that comes out of his mouth). But to say he's a bad quaterback at the college level is just wrong. I hate him as much as the next guy, but he is pretty good, even though he might not be able to win the big one for them. So breaking in a new quaterback, perhaps a freshman, gives UM the best chance to win in the near future while we re-build and develop our own team. This especially considering they lose like 7? people on defense.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:48 PM ^
Does anyone really think OSU would be better without Pryor? He's an idiot, and obviously has tarnished his and his school's reputation, but as a Michigan fan, I don't really care about that (other than the delicious schadenfreude it provides). All I care about is beating OSU next year, so hell yeah I want him to go pro, I want all of them to go pro.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:01 PM ^
i dunno, kinda? for instance, i look at the men's basketball team and they look better than they did with Sims and Manny. will they win more games this year? no. but each player seems to know their spot/role and go with it quickly, playing into their strengths. with Sims and Manny, the ball just kept getting forced through them and it threw off a lot of games. the same might be said for Pryor: because he has the mobility, the offense is forced to utilize him in ways that might not be as effective as a less mobile qb that uses the runners in a different avenue.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:16 PM ^
Pryor's "Me first" attitude is bad for team chemistry, I think SU will actually be better without him, they can play as a team instead of relying on Pryor.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:16 PM ^
Football and Basketball are completely different. In basketball having complimentary pieces is much more important to making a team work. In football, the more talent you can put at every position, the better you're going to be.
I don't think Ohio State shaped the offense because of what Pryor could do, in fact, I think the better argument could be made that they didn't use his abilities enough. I think Adams and Posey (despite what he says) are the most likely candidates to turn pro. I wouldn't be surprised if Herron also decides to make the leap. If all those guys are gone, they're looking at an offense that will lose three starting linemen, two starting WRs, and the top two running backs. Who do you want spearheading that young unit? A guy with crazy athleticism and three years of experience, a career backup who has looked awful whenever he takes the field, or a true freshman? As a Michigan fan, I know there's one option I'd like to eliminate.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:21 PM ^
that he's being held back to be honest. more and more i think he's making bad reads in practice and Tressel reins him in as a result i.e. Denard 2009. i cannot believe in any reality that Tressel is holding him back out of some dedication to an ideal when he "could" do X, Y and Z.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:37 PM ^
I don't know, I think it's just Tressel's nature to rely on a pounding run game. There's been several times over the last couple years where I've seen their offense get bogged down and they spend a series or two in full on spread offense, and they zip right down the field, the game in 2009 is most prominent in my memory.
He's a better passer than Denard in 2009. He's not great, and he never will be, but he has more than enough skills to keep teams honest when tasked with stopping his legs. I can't see anyone else on that roster bringing a skill set that comes close to what he offers. And with all the departures, he'd at least be a guy you could build a somewhat competent offense around.
December 29th, 2010 at 5:59 PM ^
But not winning as many games.
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<br>(Purdue was kinda ugly yesterday).
December 29th, 2010 at 2:49 PM ^
That 95% affirms he is transferring to MSU.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:57 PM ^
I performed an independent random sampling of my ass hairs and ended up with the same result.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:13 PM ^
Your sister is dating TP?
December 29th, 2010 at 4:20 PM ^
Missouri State?
December 29th, 2010 at 4:36 PM ^
Montana State...duh.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:50 PM ^
I would love to watch him during the draft. Watching him falling precipitously like Brady Quinn did would give me a great joy. I think I'll be able to do that either this draft or next though....
December 29th, 2010 at 3:18 PM ^
probably drop farther next year
December 29th, 2010 at 2:54 PM ^
To say tp was a bust. I hate him just like most of us, but he hasn't lost much and despite what "we" think that is all that matters. I hope he goes pro, braxton miller shows he is too young to start and they are stuck with a sheriden like qb and lose to toledo,
December 29th, 2010 at 3:53 PM ^
on the hopes that UT beats them. That would make me happier than when McDonalds announces that the McRib is back. Also, what are the odds that Miller doesnt get hurt in the first 5 games...Im betting he only lasts 2 1/4.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:54 PM ^
gets drafted by the Jaguars and gets eaten by a gator.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:54 PM ^
NO!!! Highly entertaining, if single-minded, mgoboard poster. Would like to have him around another year before he takes his services to an NFL board.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:55 PM ^
Only if he is drafted by the Cowboys and he and Dez become BFF.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:56 PM ^
would be that he not stick around to try for a fourth win against us. He's in a tough spot though. Stick around and sit for almost half the season or go pro and get drafted way down the chart as a TE.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:58 PM ^
I want Pryor to go away.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:05 PM ^
Forever
December 29th, 2010 at 2:59 PM ^
No. I want to lick his tears of defeat in Ann Arbor next November.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:02 PM ^
Let's just say that I would not be upset if he left. I would love for him to stay and sit out the first 5 games and not get a rhythm down with his teammates and look like crap the rest of the season and we tear them up next year in AA. But he can do whatever he wants to do, at least that's pretty much what he does now anyways.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:09 PM ^
If he stays, and misses five games, especially if some of the other guys go, it helps us. And Braxton Miller is still a freshman qb the year after. If he goes, Miller is a freshman qb next year, which helps us immediately. Regardless, I don't care for TP, and am very glad he didn't end up at UM.