OT: Det News uncovers old, dropped sexual assault indictment against Matt Patricia

Submitted by Mr. Elbel on
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2018/05/09/matt-patr… ..The Lions have since come out in support of Patricia. Very difficult situation where the truth is not know because the trial was dropped as the alleged victim did not want to testify. Alleged assault occurred 22 years ago on a spring break trip in Texas. Will be interesting to see how this plays out but it looks like the Fords are standing behind their man. Let's be nice to everyone in this thread, shall we?

MeanJoe07

May 10th, 2018 at 10:45 AM ^

Statistics?  Even if 1% (hint: It's higher than this) were false accusations, that's 1 in 100.  That's still a lot of people falsely accused when yoou look at the big picture.  I'd guess, only a guess, that false accusations increase when you're a public figure who has money because there's way more to gain if you win. BUT, maybe he is a horrible abuser.  Maybe anyone is!  When you only have an accusation you dont know.  So in a civilized society we don't round up people when we don't know.  I know your not advocating for THAT necessarly, but thats what it looks like when you apply your opinion to the real worls.  I try to make sure my opinions, if applied in a real scenario, wouldn't tear apart society.  Just a thought. 

MeanJoe07

May 10th, 2018 at 9:53 AM ^

So if someone accused you of something you didnt do, but others couldn't prove you did or didnt (hypothetically because obviously this has NEVER happened) you should be fired grom your job? Or do you have a different set of opinions and morals when it comes to yourself?

MeanJoe07

May 10th, 2018 at 10:15 AM ^

Ah so your view only applies if the image of an organization is at stake. I'd recommend never representing one then. It would be a bit scary to know your career hangs by a thread at all times and only a single accusation from a crazy or vindictive person, which is more likely now since you're a public figure, could ens your career regardless of the facts or legal outcome.

Stay.Classy.An…

May 10th, 2018 at 9:58 AM ^

just so I'm understanding this correctly. If someone had accused you of sexual assault or sexual harassment twenty years ago, and you went to court and the case was dismissed because your accuser refused to testify or participate, you would advocate for you losing your job? Just want to make sure we are all going to hold eachother equally accountable. 

JBE

May 10th, 2018 at 3:44 PM ^

You will forever be known to me as the guy who ate a piece of half pipe at the outdoor roller blading competition in Golden, Colorado on March 24th 1999 idiot.

BOX House

May 10th, 2018 at 5:48 PM ^

fuck you man. your opinions are what dictatorial/authoritarian regimes are made of and they are an insult to every single person who has ever been wrongly accused or falsely imprisoned. just shut the fuck up already. this is america and we don't punish people for mere accusations here.

JBE

May 10th, 2018 at 6:39 PM ^

I like your well-constructed opinions, but fuck your idea of America. Certain citizens are punished for accusations all the time, and better people than this asshole. It’s already an authoritarian nightmare. Patricia is a menace to society, and not in that good Hollywood way. In that real, probably shouldn’t be around a school way.

CraigMack

May 10th, 2018 at 10:19 AM ^

have been thousands of hot takes on this board about really dumb shit.  What you said today takes the cake as probably the dumbest  thing i have ever read on this blog. the stats say you are a moron and should shut the fuck up and never post again.

JBE

May 10th, 2018 at 3:53 PM ^

What statistical model are you using to come up with this conclusion? The Hoffentrauer model, when the numbers are plugged in correctly, states unequivocally Matt Patricia committed sexual assault and should be fired, to then get his second chance at a small real estate firm - I used the Render statistical model to provide me with a probable future career path - where his beard will sell condos like hot cakes. If you used the Holtheim model to conclude I should shut the fuck up, then that’s a strong conclusion. I used the Felterhoon model to conclude that you have trouble properly capitiliazing your written communications. i, the, etc.

Pepto Bismol

May 10th, 2018 at 4:25 PM ^

But I think he's relying on the model where you have a billion downvotes on each of your lunatic posts and not one person has had the heart to throw you a token +1.

That's my guess.

JBE

May 10th, 2018 at 4:42 PM ^

Downvotes give me strength like Sampson. But I can’t believe people think this guy should remain the Lions coach. I’m flabbergasted, truly. It’s very, very probable he’s a piece of shit. And that probability is good enough for me.

Blau

May 10th, 2018 at 9:47 AM ^

suggest otherwise.

In fact, reading through the articles about this, it sounds like Matty P and his friend even tried to reach out to the alleged victim to understand her side of the story before handling the legal process. They got no response and nothing ever came of it. Very indicative of most criminals don't you think? /s

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

May 10th, 2018 at 9:54 AM ^

"The statistics say"???

You're judging a guy and holding yourself forth as the moral arbiter of whether or not he deserves a career because of "statistics"???  Not, you know, the case itself, but whether other people raped someone??

Fuck that opinion.

MeanJoe07

May 10th, 2018 at 9:31 AM ^

A guy was accused of something decades ago and charges were eventually dropped!?! Get him!!!! He should be fired immediately!!! virtue, virtue, virtue, virtue signal!!! Ho!!!!!!!!!!

MeanJoe07

May 10th, 2018 at 10:29 AM ^

Its not the time that has passed that's the issue. The legal system operates quite amazingly well all things considered. When someone was never convicted and charges dropped entirely they are consideres innocent. False accusations of anything exist. Your problem seems to be with the legal system then. You can have your opinion, just known that if your way of thinking was applied and everyone who is accused gets punished regardless of facts or investigation, it would be fucking scary.

WorldwideTJRob

May 10th, 2018 at 1:38 PM ^

This goes back to my point earlier, it’s all about how the media/public feel about you that makes this story go one way or the other. I’ll leave our rivals out of this because that’s to be expected about stories like this. First example is the case of Kobe Bean Bryant. He had charges dropped in his trial, yet that doesn’t stop a large segment of the population from thinking he’s a rapist! Next case is Jameis Winston. He was neither indicted or convicted of any crime in the court of law. Yet, I guarantee you outside of Tallahassee and Tampa most individuals think he’s a rapist! Now a number of factors could play into this, but it does beg the question of why some ppl get a pass and others don’t.

BlueChip27

May 10th, 2018 at 9:36 AM ^

Then it's somewhat of a dead issue.....

The Lions certainly deserve some heat for not discovering this sooner......we take background checks here at work very seriously as we should. I've seen good candidates lose their place in line for a postion for far less serious findings.

Patricia shouldn't lose his job but the Lions in my mind owe their fans an explanation and shame on them if he or they are using the "he was 21 and on Spring break in Texas" line. The optics of that are really bad given the lanscape of this issue in today's world.

robpollard

May 10th, 2018 at 10:02 AM ^

That would mean she admitted she made the whole thing up; that's not what happened.  Charges were dropped when she decided she didn't want to pursue the case, which can happen when an alleged victim decides it is not worth the trauma to go to trial. This type of decision can be especially prevalent in sexual assualt cases.

Doesn't mean it happened. But I would feel a WHOLE lot better about this if the Lions knew about it and had investigated it on their own, so if/when it came up, they could refer to that due diligence and explain to their fans why they were comfortable it was not trrue and that Patricia was a good hire.

Mr. Elbel

May 10th, 2018 at 10:04 AM ^

That's the thing you hope happens if there's other victims. We can't really know what happened 22 years ago, but if this coming back up empowers more women to speak up about a pattern of this behavior, then we can jump all over him. But until then, we can't make assumptions either way.